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July 2, 2008 5:25 PM

They're gone

Posted by Percy Allen

Here's our latest story.

Just wanted to provide a place where anyone can vent.

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Posted by Goodbye Nickels

5:29 PM, Jul 02, 2008

What a joke! Thankfully we can count on our buddy David Stern to "inform" us when a team is available. Hope the mayor got a substantial chunk of the $75 mil. P.S.- nice job passing the buck to the State Government!

Posted by Dave Gomez

5:36 PM, Jul 02, 2008

It is as it should be.

Posted by shosports

5:39 PM, Jul 02, 2008

You kind of had to figure this was going to happen when Schultz sold them to a dude that wasn't from the area to begin with. You want to piss and moan about something, piss on Schultz for giving up on the Sonics instead of Clay Bennett for becoming the owner and doing things his way.

Posted by lisa smith

5:40 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I lived in San Diego when the Rockets left- and i guess i am bad luck or something when i moved here. The sonics have been terrible since i came here in 03. Sports is all business, and two years from now everyone will just be doing something else for entertainment, and the Sonics will be the last thing on their mind. Let Okla. City deal with them now.

Lisa

Posted by GRRRR

5:45 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Screw the NBA! Bring the NHL to Seattle! That would be the best outcome.

Posted by MMjohns195

5:46 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Way to chicken out nickels, screw the NBA

Posted by Seattle Fan

5:47 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Note to Lisa: The Rockets were not in San Diego for 41 years. Note to Mayor Nickels: Isn't this settlement exactly what you said you WOULD NOT accept?? Maybe you need to move to OKC with Bennett. You two are obviously cut from the same cloth.

Posted by Tictac

5:50 PM, Jul 02, 2008

To Percy and Jayda: Thank you for all of your efforts during the recent past to cover the Sonics through this blog and elsewhere. I imagine there may be some uncertainty as to the future of your employment at the Times (although I sincerely hope that is not the case).

Good luck and thank you!

And f-u to the NBA!

Posted by fastfish

6:02 PM, Jul 02, 2008

It is a sad day in Seattle.

Please load the truck with all local politicians as well.

What a bunch of NO LOAD sell outs!

Posted by Steve

6:02 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I used to love the sonics when Payton was still there. Good thing I have moved to Utah and have become a Derron Williams and Jazz fan. I am now the biggest oklahoma city hater!!!

Posted by Luke

6:05 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I am so depressed. I didn't think I would be. But now that they're actually gone... There's only one team to root for in the NBA now for Sonic fans, and I hate to say it... B-Roy and the Blazers baby!

Nickels, Bennett, Stern. You guys are corrupt. Somewhere down the road you guys will get what's coming to you.

Posted by OKC.home of the new team

6:16 PM, Jul 02, 2008

This would not have started if the FANS would have supported the team like they should have. Bennett is a business man. If he is losing money, why stay there?

Gald to have the team here in Oklahoma....

By the way..I hear there are job openings for anyone who wants to move here..LOL

New name..new city...new start for OUR team!

Posted by David K.

6:17 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Nickels is a joke and caving in like this he deserves to be ousted. Hopefully the citizens of Seatltle will be smart enough to boot him and the entire council, especially that arrogant snob Licata, out on their rears next time they are up for election.

Posted by Ry

6:23 PM, Jul 02, 2008

The city of Seattle sold out today and Bennett's comments at the press conference announcing the settlement indicate to me that he perjured himself in court. Saying in essence, "Hey, we did it. The NBA is going to be in OKC next year..." doesn't sound to me like someone who was allegedly committed to keeping the team in Seattle for at least the remainder of the Key Arena lease.

Posted by walkup99

6:25 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Well the only thing I can take from this is that if every member of the city council and mayor get re-elected then the “people” of Seattle had no interest in keeping the Sonics here. Yea the most blame goes to Howard Shultz and no one who is a Sonics fan should ever be caught dead in a starbucks, but it’s the city council that dropped the ball on this. If you told me a city with a top 15 market and booming economy would lose a professional franchise to barely top 50 market in Oklahoma I’d say you were crazy there is no way the people and politicians would let that happen, but here we are with an idiot owner who knew what the intentions of the new ownership was, and an inept government that had no idea from the beginning what a professional sports franchise brings to a city and region.

Posted by goodbye

6:26 PM, Jul 02, 2008

stern is such a loser. i hope that him and bennet can rot together in OKC.

Posted by Gordie

6:26 PM, Jul 02, 2008

The biggest problem the corrupt, arrogant and smug David Stern had with KeyArena (which apparently was a brilliant arena when it first opened, according to... David Stern) was that it wasn't in Oklahoma City. Then later he decides that he has an issue with the footprint and that it's not worthy of the NBA. But now that his BBF Clay Clay seems to be getting his way with the birth of the Oklahoma City Carpetbaggers, suddenly a renovated KeyArena is okay? The evil of Clay Bennett can only be topped by David Stern.

When Stern dies, I'll be the first to throw a party to celebrate the world becoming a better place.

Time to vote out Greg, Christine, Frank, Nick and all the other enemies of the state.

Posted by jeff928

6:27 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Mayor Nickels----Screw you.

Posted by Huge Supes Fan

6:28 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I am a HUGE basketball fan. Used to be a Sonics Season ticket holder and currently am a UW basketball season ticket holder. That being said, the city (under the circumstances since this wasn't fixed 4 or 5 years ago) made the right call to accept this offer for the good of the city.

BIGGEST PROBLEM - They need to start rebuilding Key NOW, do not wait until have a team. If the city waits until the Grizzlies are available (may be now) where will they play? Why would the seller wait 2 years while we rebuild. Time to rebuild key now while it is empty.

Howard Schultz will say I am going to put my personal feelings aside for the good of the city and NBA B-ball here.

Posted by Casey

6:34 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Stern should burn in Hell for his actions but everyone don't lose hope yet, Schultz's lawsuit may pull through. Everything Bennett says about how great it is to move makes him look worse for that trial. Start praying, the Sonics are not gone.

Posted by thisissofrustrating

6:36 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Its a sad day knowing that the youth of seattle will have to grow up w/o a NBA team. My only hope is that David idiot Stern realizes his mistake and gives us back a team, and the OKC switch crumbles before his eyes.

Posted by Operations

6:52 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I think it comes down to this. Getting angry at Bennett and Stern serve no purpose. There is nothing we can do to or about either one of them. What we CAN do is make sure that the current Seattle City Council members and the Mayor are NEVER AGAIN allowed to sellout this city again. They assume that when the election comes around, nobody will care or will be to disorganized to mount a serious challenge against them. If you're angry about the sonics being allowed to leave, show it at the polls. Starting now, let the politicians know that they will answer for this travesty.

By the way, any OKC people coming in here to gloat is just bad taste and shows that everything that is said about your character is true

Posted by Al

6:53 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I just want to hear more on the Schultz case.

Posted by OKC

7:02 PM, Jul 02, 2008

off to better fans

Posted by Gordie

7:04 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Well, Operations, I guess you could say the OKC people are "fans possessed." Clay Bennett represents exactly what they're about.

Posted by Nickels is a b*tch!!

7:17 PM, Jul 02, 2008

This hurts. I cannot believe OKC people are coming on here trying to rub this in our faces. This has been our team for 41 years and now we are without a team. This really hurts. I don't care if you think they have not had support. They have had support. Our state is led by a bunch of pansy all talk no action idiots and will do everything we can to get rid of them. But to see something that we LOVE, regardless of what others think, really hurts. This is getting kicked in the ass for someone elses actions. I hope our "leaders" eat shit!

Posted by sman

7:32 PM, Jul 02, 2008

To the fans in Seattle. I feel for you regarding the way this played out. I think the money was certainly there to keep the Sonics in Seattle, but it didn't happen. I hope that you do not falsely accuse OKC and future fans (whatever the team is called) here, we didn't do this. I've seen some true fan posts from Seattle (the one posting on another blog, particularly the long time fan and his kids not being able to see the things dad did with the team, etc. is real and I can understand why that would be really tough. This isn't a State to State battle, you have some fine people and so do we. I am truly happy to get an NBA team here, and hope we are successful, but I don't fault you for feeling the hurt from it. Good luck on a future team.

Posted by SavMasterFlash

7:53 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Washington public leaders like Gregoire, Sims, Licata and finally NIckels choke during crunch time. Clay "ultimate freestyle liar" Bennett wins, just like he knew he would. Stern and Clay will love soon embrace in OKC while showering themselves with dirty money.

Posted by Bob

8:00 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I don't know what the OKC fans are crowing about. Sure, for a small town where there's really no entertainment maybe it's a boon. But here in the beautiful Pacific Northwest where there are so many things to do, well no wonder people stopped going to see an overpriced, over hyped, losing team. Enjoy your hand-me-downs out there in Oklahoma.

Can we have an NHL team now please?

Posted by gray

8:06 PM, Jul 02, 2008

BOB...
There is a lot to do 2 months of the year when it's not raining, gray and depressing...

Posted by OOOOK

8:13 PM, Jul 02, 2008

get over it bitches! Support UW now. What a laugh. This is awesome. You do not deserve to have a pro team.

Posted by shane/olympia

8:14 PM, Jul 02, 2008

this is were i am at

f the all the people in suits that are all about the money or about okla city

i hope memphis and okla has a horrible season
exception with rid and collison the guys who have always been sonics. i hope the best to durant, green, and westbrook. it would be nice to have O.J. Mayo and the Griz in Seattle in a few years

i guess i will be rooting for ray to win another one, rashard to take his team to the playoffs and contend, i also hope roy and webster can help the blazers get to the playoffs, i am also pulling for jamal and nate in new york in their new offense.

i hoped for the best and prepared for the worst....i wasn't ready for the worst

nickels, stern, and bennet.....i wish the worst for all three of you, you gutless bastards that couldn't do the right thing!

the fans are the only ones that lose today!

SEATTLE MADE 45 MILLION
BENNET GOT HIS TEAM
FANS LOSE THEIR HEROES, ROLE MODELS AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVE NOW IS MEMORIES!!!..............

Posted by shane/olympia

8:16 PM, Jul 02, 2008

any one from okla on here needs to leave. classless bastards

Posted by Seattleborn

8:19 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Oklahoma will appreciate a pro team. It's always been a meca for college football, and recently basketball. This will be great for their region.

Posted by John

8:25 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Do we get to keep the team history?
Or is it just the colors, logo and uniforms.

Posted by SeattleFan91 (Chris)

8:26 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Really sad day today.

Betrayed by our own city.

Thanks a lot.

.....


"When I think of Seattle, I think of G.P., the Reign Man, Sikma, Lenny Wilkens," Shaq said. "The Oklahoma City Sonics? When my son asks me about that, I'll say there's no such thing."

Posted by richsti

8:27 PM, Jul 02, 2008

let the NBA burn. We got hosed washingtonians, let's circle the wagons and spurn this ridiculous league, spend our Microsoft and Boeing wealth on other things that have no tie to the league of the primadona.

Posted by float

8:32 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Better put your efforts in to something else now seattle fans. How about you gay pride parade. Beautiful, athletic me on floats! Yes you all say!

Posted by Jada

8:33 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Hello,

I have a Autograph Baden Basketball that was signed by the entire 1993 team which included Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, George Karl and Nate McMillian does anyone know how much its worth.

Posted by todd

8:52 PM, Jul 02, 2008

5 years freom now the story wil be how the NBA is struggling In OKC, bennet will want a new arame or lease or willl have to sell the team. While we will have Voted in Competant people in office who will work with the Ballmar group or whomever and we will have a new sonics team here. Bank On It. The NBA wont say no to a guy like ballmar, wont happen even David I like to think Im Stern isnt that stupid, but then again.....

Posted by Heinous Clayness from Uranus

8:53 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Thug,

Even though you can't spell (a product of inbreeding, no doubt), I got the gist of it. I hear ya man, if my only local entertainment was the Wednesday Night Family Incest Fest, I'd be pretty stoked to get an NBA team too!

Posted by Uh

9:02 PM, Jul 02, 2008

"They rip away 41 years of history, and expect us to build them a new arena for a 12 year old arena so that they can rip away another team from another city". Maybe people should have went to the games???

Posted by Gordie

9:08 PM, Jul 02, 2008

When I think of a city that's home to minor league baseball, CHL hockey and Arena Football 2, that's definitely where I want an NBA franchise.

As for the OKC trolls on here, is anyone surprised by their classless, inbred comments? It's just too bad none of them were in Picher in May.

Posted by fuck okc

9:24 PM, Jul 02, 2008

OKC WILL NEVER BE half the city SEATTLE is. go and crawl back in the holes you came from you moraless bastards.

Posted by fuckokc

9:26 PM, Jul 02, 2008

okc bastards. should get hit by a tornado, or a sandstrom. lol

Posted by Gonics

9:35 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Bennett + Stern = BS

Bennett + Stern + Schultz = BS x 2

Posted by Kyle

9:48 PM, Jul 02, 2008

The Okies posting here aren't doing anything to disprove my theory that they are the dumbest, most ignorant group of people in the nation, hopefully they will succeed from the nation.

Keep reading the best newsaper in the nation, the Oklahoman.

As a group of people, you have no idea how stupid you look coming onto another cities blog to brag about your storied franchise.

I know that there are Okie fans that can prove me otherwise, but as a whole, you guys appear about as stupid as they come. Seattle = Gay!!! I am so smart and cool!!!! Yes!!!

Posted by Marcus

9:51 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I will support MLS and NHL, but never again the NBA. We would be crazy to get back in bed with them.

Posted by Gordie

9:55 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Kyle, the insults the OKC trolls are spitting out should not come as a surprise. Most of them are right out of Aubrey McClendon's Ku Klux Klan playbook.

And the ones that are capable of reading newspapers only pick up Louise Gaylord Bennett's "Pro-Clay all the time" The Oklahoman.

Posted by dblog

9:56 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I am very angry right now with a whole lot of people including several media reporters.

Everyone city official I am going to work to get ousted in their next election. Mayor& Governor especially!

Seattle sucks right now!

I don't care for another team, I had MY TEAM!

Posted by The Tad

9:59 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Shame on you Nickels for selling out for cash. Cash doesn't replace the team I grew up with. Enjoy your last term in office.

Shame on you Schultz for selling to Bennett.

Bennett you took care of your home town. Schultz and Nickels should learn a lesson from that one.

When can we get NHL to Seattle? NBA and Stern can suck it!

Posted by 20Glove

9:59 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I do not live in the area... I live all the way in Chicago... and I WAS a Sonics fan all my life... and what the NBA, David Stern, Clay Bennett, the politicians did was just plain wrong!! I cancelled my NBA subscription on DirecTV as soon as I heard the news...

So does some of that 75 million go to the businesses that will lose patrons... or some to DirecTV for losing some of their NBA subscrioptions??? No it will all go in the pockets of the politicians... I thought Chicago was corrupt... WOW!!

There is a reason that college basketball is so much stronger than the NBA TV rating wise... that is because my alma matter and beloved Wildcats of Kentucky will never move from Lexington! And guess what.... Rupp Arena has been there since 1976.. wow... no one pressuring them to build an arean or we will leave ultimatum!! Do you see that David Stern... heck.. soon professional ping pong will have higher ratings than the fleeting NBA!!

This is a sad day in sports!! And tell me again, why ... do the rats of OC... or should I say OKC... get the banners of the Sonics??? For what???! If they want their own tradition start one... but hey Clay is even stealing that from Seattle!!!

OKC... are you kidding me... If the NBA was not corrupt... I would give OKC 4 years b4 they are bankrupt!! (but they will lie about revenues---mark my words). Where are the fans going to come from??? Really??? Why not move a team to Fargo... or Alaska in middle of a glacier... come on... OKC... they should call themselves the OKC RATS???

The NBA is dead to me... I mean your telling me that the lottery was not fixed... that games were not fixed... oh wait... that is right isn't their an NBA ref on trial for fixing games... and Sterns' response has been it is isolated... really... wake up!!

Stern has ruined the character of the NBA... tell me fans in Chicago... what was more fun... The Stadiuim or United Center... the character is gone!! Thanks David!! And to David... how does he keep his post... so many problems... and he keeps his job... no wonder why the NBA ratings continue to fall and will continue. Good luck!

Posted by Si

10:05 PM, Jul 02, 2008

This is a truly sad day for any NBA fan. To see a team pulled from a city that has cheered for it, cried for it (if you take it that far), put up with it thru the rebuilding years, spent the money on the ever-expensive tickets, drank toasts to it and even drank to forget it... that sucks big time, people.

Clay Bennett is a big, fat, red-faced jerk who came into Seattle with an agenda now completed. Bully for you, Clay. You won't see this blog, but I'm sure others have already called you a big turd in your lifetime, so that's ok... a good number of Supes fans will meet up with ya in hell someday and give what you probably have coming I would imagine.

Et tu, David Stern? Over the years, Stern has gone from a trendsetting, trailblazing marketing genius, to a money-grubbing fool who sold his soul for tv ratings and power. I'm sure there will be a flaming pitchfork waiting for his droopy, old butt as well.

I live in L. A., but with what started as a fantasy basketball addiction, I came to feel a real affection for this team. I watched games on NBA League Pass, learning to tolerate the nasal twangs of analysis from the mouth of basketball stud Len Wilkens. I read Percy & Jayda regularly and always liked their coverage... a lot. Thanks, a lot, incidentally, Percy & Jayda. I know from several friends in Seattle how much you have meant to the game in your city. You do your profession proud. You've done this blog, a chance for people to express their feelings, proud. Right on!

So for me, this has been a ludicrous sham and I feel for all of you who are feeling pain tonight... PEACE!

Posted by RealSonicsFan

10:08 PM, Jul 02, 2008

This is absurd having to read comments from a biggot from Oklahoma City calling this a gay city. You are NOT a sports state. All you have in your baren dump of a state is OU and OSU athletics and that is it!!!!! The way programs from both of the schools cheat I wouldn't be to proud of them. The players that were formally the Sonics will wither in mediocrity for the rest of there time there while we still have MLB, NFL, MLS, and a great chance of landing the NHL if we can put together a package with the Key.

I am sick of you OKC people go stick yourself back in the trailer you live in!

Posted by Chris (Bothell)

10:10 PM, Jul 02, 2008

First time I've cried in a few years.

Posted by SeattleSportsFan

10:17 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Who is Thug and F Seattle. Do they really think OKC is all they think it is. I love the miss spellings and the comments about stuck up ugly people and that it always rains here.

That is so informed and mature, last time I went to OKC, which was very recently they had all the of the things F Seattle described about us. Oh well they both are un informed loosers who probably work on the farm and are so excited about getting our hand me downs. Go ahead and have them, we will get another team and we will do it right and probably beat the shit out of the OKC team whenever we play them.

Posted by tfw

10:22 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I really love what K wrote....we never supported the sonics, we never sold out games,

You need to go look at the books my friend this city sold out the majority of this teams games, we set attendance records that havent been broken, oh and by the way we soldout plenty of games for the worst team in the western confrence this year!

Know the facts before you spew useless words from your uninformed mouth

Posted by Casey

10:23 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Too all you OKC Jerks on here making fun of Seattle. Fine if you hate our city and state but I challenge you to NEVER touch a computer again or ride an airplane because if it were not for Boeing and Microsoft you would not enjoy the lives you do today. The only people that make money from your state rip people off (Bennet and T. Boone Pickens) while our state improves everyone's lives.

As for who has the real sports city SONICS, MARINERS, SEAHAWKS. OKC: two colleges: OSU and UO.

Here's to laughing at OKC when Schults wins

Posted by Seatown

10:31 PM, Jul 02, 2008


Its sad to Sonics go. Seattle is a great city, with better sports and education than OKC will ever have. Stern is a horrible perosn only about money and Schultz should have throught it through before he sold the team to an out of town buyer, he screwed us. it isn't nickels fault at all, its better to have some money than none. Clay is an asshole.

Posted by Operations

10:42 PM, Jul 02, 2008

I said earlier that any OKC people coming in here to gloat were doing so in bad taste. It seems I overestimated their character. What is with you people?! Gay city? Gay Parades? Bad weather? Was that the best that your limited and uncreative minds could come up with? How pathetic do you have to be to come onto another city's blog and post? Get over yourselves! By coming on here and behaving this way you're proving that you are EVERYTHING that we say you are. A bunch of spoiled, ill-bred(not inbred in case you can't spell) babies masquerading as adults who are foolishly gloating over something that they had absolutely NOTHING to do with!! Kicking a man when he's down may be fine down in the south(where you have a history of kicking, among other things), but you should at least TRY to pretend to join the rest of us regular people in the 21st century. Grow up!!!

Posted by andre

10:44 PM, Jul 02, 2008

i feel so sick, i don't even know what to do...what a depressing day....and to think the only hope we have is on the person who did this to us....Howard Schultz...sad sad.

Posted by Brandon

11:31 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Percy, can't thank you enough for your years of incredible Sonics coverage, it's sad to think we lose out on you, as well as the Sonics.

Here's to hoping Clare warms up a seat for you at Qwest.

Thanks to Jayda as well, your coverage over the recent years has only gotten progressively better.

It's a sad, sad day in a sad, sad town.

Thanks for everything.

Posted by good ol' george

11:59 PM, Jul 02, 2008

Greg Nickels just lost his bid for re-election

Posted by Dean

12:10 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Lisa Smith you could not be more wrong...

Today is a sad day in Seattle. Around this time of the year most Seattlites are enjoying the 3-4 months of consistent sunshine that we get. However, after today it feels like we are back in a dreary winter.... A dark cloud hangs over the city. I'm depressed by what conniving businessmen like Clayton Benett and David Stern can do to loyal fans like myself.

I will never recover from this.......

Posted by buck

12:34 AM, Jul 03, 2008

this might be the stupidest thing i've ever read. who cares, teams move all the time. seatlle get over it. the team was losing money. yes it is a business. someone on here said "the youth of seattle will not grow up with an nba team" how sad. i'm shedding a tear. most kids in the world don't grow up with nba team. seattle if you would have been taking your kids to the games you wouldn't be in this situation.

okc don't get too excited, because you just inherited one of the worst teams in the league. you better hope they turn it around in the next few seasons. it's going to be hard to support a last place team in a small city like okc. most big name nba players will try to avoid oklahoma altogether. don't count on a championship any time soon.

it's business. if you disagree so much with whats happened here then get a bunch of money and buy your own team. then you can whine about what happens.

the sonics will be back in seattle before you know it.....

Posted by ExSeasonTixHolder

1:26 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Clay, I hope your new toy franchise bleeds you and your carpetbagging partners for years. May all your drafts picks be busts. May the Oklahoma sooner football team win three national championships and destroy your bright-shiny-object fan-base. May your average attendance be dismal.

You know what schadenfreude is? That's what I am hoping for.

Posted by Bums

2:48 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Good riddance. I am tired of the public funding stadiums for arrogant, out of touch, filthy rich owners.

Clay, have fun toiling away in OKC with a losing team that cannot attract free agents and having trouble keeping your own players because OKC is not exactly a desirable place to live and play.

Have fun with half empty home games after the first year when the "fans" stop wanting to watch a losing product. Have fun trying to rape the citizens of even more money when you decide that the renovations you are getting to the arena now are just not enough in three years.

Chew on this Clay, LeBron does not want to stay in his hometown of Cleveland. Good luck keeping KD when he can go. Better hope Mr. Presti is a master at the draft because you will need to re-tool year after year.

This team will not be in OKC any longer than this ownership group owns the team.

David Stern, are you so arrogant that you do not see how unprofitable this will be for the league? Does this league learn with Vancouver, Memphis, and New Orleans situations, to name a few recent? Also, David Stern your league is turning into a sham, maybe you should focus on fixing it.

Game fixing refs is one of the worst things that can happen to a sport. You also cannot deny that some sort of fixing (or maybe influencing outcomes) has been going on for some time. Look at game 7 of the WC Finals between Sea and Phx back in '92. Seattle fans from that point knew it was rigged.

Clay and David, hope you enjoy your party now because it is going to be a bumpy ride while the OKC Bandits are perennial cellar dwellers.

From a city perspective, how do the citizens benefit from the 75$ million? Or, will our government line their own pockets and piss it away like they always do?

Just a bitter deal all around.

Posted by My $0.02

2:58 AM, Jul 03, 2008

I am angry. But I am directing my anger towards Seattle's politicians and towards Bennet. Whether he is a businessman or not, whether this is just business or not, as a human being, he appears to have no morals or class. How do you come into a city and act like you are a friend and then do everything in your power to dismantle the Sonics even more? Of course no one wants to spend money on something that is not very entertaining. Is it fun to lose? Is it fun to watch game after game with no wins? No it is not. I remember when the Sonics made it to the Championship against the Bulls back in 96(?). That was entertaining. That was a team worth spending your money to see. Was Seattle that bad with Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis? Maybe, but to trade them away for nothing doesn't make any sense. To show losses instead of trying to make the team better, well that is a winning recipe to decrease your fan base even more. We played into Bennet's plan, not that we had any choice. Then of course that leads right into the politicians. If they look at the numbers, they will not allow money be diverted towards something that has no returns. Yet, there is more to it than just numbers. There is much heart and love for the Sonics. These elected officials failed to work for the wishes of the people. If they had worked to improve the Key, then most likely Bennet would have been forced to stay and actively improve the roster in order to make money. Bennet is scum, but he is not an idiot. He knows what he was doing. He knew that if he could get in and make the Sonics a worse team, financially and competitively, then no politician would spend to make changes. Hey Licata, just because you do not watch sports doesn't mean the rest of the city doesn't as well. You work for the people, not for your own motives.

I will say it, I am a fair weather fan. But like me, there are many others in every market who are fair weather fans. If Bennet would have had his GM construct a better team with more support players instead of dismantling what we had, well then more people might have come to see a better team. Like Shawn Kemp said, you have to earn a new arena by winning. You can't expect it to be handed to you in this economic climate. I think Shultz might have some valid points in his suit. We shall see.

Posted by Jo Jo

4:52 AM, Jul 03, 2008

"I used to love the sonics when Payton was still there. Good thing I have moved to Utah and have become a Derron Williams and Jazz fan. I am now the biggest oklahoma city hater!!!" [end quote]

I am sorry for the loss that Seattle is feeling right now and the sense of betrayal that most NBA fans there must be feeling, but is it really the residents of Oklahoma city that you are angry at? Why must you categorize us as "dumb rednecks" and such? Do you not realize that it is not "us" that controlled what happened in that court room, it was not the citizens of Oklahoma City that failed you as a city? It was in fact your own, elected by the public, officials that failed you terribly. I hope some of you who are so busy coming up with ways to insult and create discontent on a public blog, can overcome your feelings and start working towards creating a welcoming and improved place to host or create another major league sports team that will end up being another important piece of history for Seattle!

I personally, am ecstatic that we are getting an NBA team here, it is just what the economy and sports fans in Okc need! If you were on my end, you would be excited also. As I believe, when one door closes, another one opens for you, keep that in mind while your setting there draining all of your own energy by 'hating' Oklahoma for doing what any state would do.

Welcome to OKC to the former Seattle Sonics, and good luck to the fans in Seattle!

Posted by kenjo

5:02 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Don't be angry at politicians. They have simply been representing the majority which is what they should do.

Posted by RenoRanger

7:12 AM, Jul 03, 2008

There is definitely something I dont understand about the city settling. (specifically from the Nickels perspective)

1. I doubt Judge Peckman would have awarded less than Bennetts original offer of $26 million.

2. A lot of the citys resources (man and money) was devoted to this cause for an extra $20 million now and "possibly" $30 million discounted 5 years from now.

3. Upon agreeing to this paltry sum, Nickels ultimately guaranteed himself losing the next election for mayor.

4. If Nickels would have said, "We'll take our chances with Peckmans ruling" and the outcome was bad (i.e. some nominal dollar figure) then at least Nickels could have said he tried. If the ruling was good then Nickels would have guaranteed himself another term as major and been the hero.

For these reasons, this makes no sense for Nickels. He is damned no matter what for his decision. This leads me to believe that Nickels is either:

a) A complete moron and all his advisors are morons as well.

OR

b) Nickels somehow benefited from this.

Am I missing something?

Posted by doh

7:27 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Hey, I don't know if I'm right, but I think the UW is also going for the extension of local tax revenue that Nickles kept mentioning last night to remodel Husky stadium. If I had my choice I rather have the money spent on a university that isn't eaily moved.

Posted by ReynMan

8:12 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Just went to NBA.com and Eastbay.com to but some Sonic gear before it is pulled....I feel SICK...I used to attend and work at the Sonics camps with Jim Marsh as a kid in the 90s.

Why couldn't Paul Allen trade Portland for the Sonics and let the Trailblazers go to Poke-ahoma City.

Sonics are a part of me.....SUCKS.

This whole thing is a joke.

Posted by statboys dad

8:29 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Stearn this is wrong!!!

You should have found an expansion team for OKC
yeah times are tough around and in Seattle too. Just because your buuddy Bennet wanted a toy and be a hero to his area??? you could have supported both cities? i don't get it..Thank God i live in portland now..Shame on all of you involved...Nichols too!

Posted by MikeJ

8:29 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Saddest day since the Sonics lost game 7 in the '77-'78 finals.
Sonics Trivia Question: Is this the first championship team to leave their city since the Minneapolis Lakers?

Posted by Sour Grapes

8:53 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Here's a request for KIRO News sports department--as well as the other local sports news/reporters...

Please discontinue reporting on any NBA news at all until:
a) Seattle is granted franchise rights to another team, --or--
b) David Stern steps down as NBA commish. --or--
c) H*ll freezes over

Posted by NBA no more

9:00 AM, Jul 03, 2008

The NBA needs Seattle. Seattle doesn't need the NBA or the V.D. that comes with getting into bed with these losers again. I hope the NBA never comes back to Seattle. I hope that NY weasel Stern gets a swift kick in his stubby backside from the PNW.

Mr. 10 pennies caved in. I will say the guy was forced into a bad situation by the okies. Even our coffee guy thought the okies would make an effort. I blame Bennett, Stern and anything else the smells like them and their cow-pie okies.

I don't think I'll ever follow the NBA again.

Posted by Cody

9:31 AM, Jul 03, 2008

We'd be crazy to spend $150 million in public funds to bring back the nba after the way we've been treated. I was in favor of supporting them before, but no longer think there should be any public financing.

The NBA is a sham. If Ballmer wants a toy he needs to pay for it his damn self.

Posted by its not about the money?

10:24 AM, Jul 03, 2008

I hate on all of them, from the top to the bottom. way to many lies, way to much passing of the buck. I am soo disgusted with how this all went down. Right now I am unsure what to do next. I will say one thing, i will vote (for the first time) to remove those terrible elected official.....the mayor and gov, never watch the nba again, and stay far away from any Starbucks until they close all their stores.
it should have never come to this!

Posted by what a joke

10:37 AM, Jul 03, 2008

check out www.eternalprey.com

good article on nickels

Posted by meagain

11:01 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Wow--why has this turned into a sniping contest between fans? OKC has the consummate lier Clay Bennett, we have Howard Schultz--I'd call it a wash. Except that we also have Gregoire, Nickels and Licata 'looking after our interests.'

Gay bashers aside, OKC'ers are probably decent folk. I hope they enjoy their new team for as long as they have it.

Seattle got the shaft, but the major blame resides right here and in the NBA front office. Bennett was just a tool of convenience for Schultz and Stern, with Nickels, Licata and company bent over and waiting for the result of their machinations.

Posted by DEmar

11:05 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Mike S,

Hope you son does not ever have the mosfortune of experiencing the NBA sham.

Education is that the NBA only benefits the owner, players, media and handfuls of hilrods that actually think they are better off with it here

Posted by VistaSucks

11:07 AM, Jul 03, 2008

If Ballmer shoves this done taxpayers throats despite repeated polls indicating no public financing, I can no longer consider MSFT a good corporate citizen.

Were there not suggestions of covering results of yet another poll?

Posted by Mike S.

11:12 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Nickels is a bum! After seeing him fumble in court and then making this decision.... he needs to go! It's obvious he has cheeseburgers and fried chicken on his mind more than his job. $45 million will buy a lot of greasy grub! It obviously affects your thinking. Nice work Mayor! Your something we can be proud of!

Posted by heck

11:18 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Thanks for representing your constituency Greg. What a refreshing change of the spineless creeps that have previously bowed to media pressure.

Meeting the city's fidiuciary resposnibilities to taxpayers is critical

Posted by Isotope

11:23 AM, Jul 03, 2008

It should be blatantly obvious to everone that the city knew they were going to lose this case and thus covered the debr.

The lesson to be learnt is that the NBA is crack and we should never touch it again with a 12-foot pole.

Shelling out 150 million to build a facility for a potential team we have no ties with after the way the nba sold us down the river is beyond retarded.

Posted by bill

11:23 AM, Jul 03, 2008

we were lied to by bennet and WE WERE LIED TO BY THE CITY both sides lied to us , i wish we could do something , like impeach ALL the councilmen and the MAYOR....the city never had any intention on trying to keep the sonics here for the last 2 years...LIARS

Posted by Demar

11:26 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Actually Mike,

I have been a season ticket holder for 9 years.

Pray your son does not experience the sham that I have.

If we direct some funds towards education maybe he grows up to have a more reasoned perspective than you.

Have a nice day

Posted by alanl

11:29 AM, Jul 03, 2008

The NBA in Seattle is over, it's time to move on.

There is no bringing back the Sonic experience as we knew it. They will make replicas of Sonic trophies and banners and present them to the highest bidder, OKC. Please forward any of your memories to the league office so that they too may be given to OKC. Any reproduction, rebroadcast, retransmission or other use of these memories, or accounts of these memories, without the express written consent of the NBA is prohibited.

The NBA is a business and everything is for sale. You want to buy a team for your city, fine buy a team. You need to buy a win, fine buy a win (Note, playoff wins cost more).

The NBA is not what it was back in the Sonics hayday and the comish is right when he says Seattle no longer has what it takes to be an NBA city. At least that is something to be thankful for.

It was a great ride and time to move on. Let the folks in OKC enjoy the Sonics rebuilding plan that they stole from the Clippers (trade away anyone that has had any success in the NBA for draft picks, draft the best young talent you can, wash, rinse, repeat).

The NBA is gone in Seattle, and it is time to move on. There is no looking back. Seattle is no longer an NBA town. How about an NHL franchise?

Posted by Mike S.

11:32 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Okay Demar. Where are the funds going to come from? What are you going to do with your season ticket money?

Posted by DeMar

11:41 AM, Jul 03, 2008

MLS, UW, Hiking/Climbing, Kayaking, Skiing, Charities etc etc etc

Posted by ja

11:55 AM, Jul 03, 2008

Percy,

Don't mean to get personal, but does this mean you will be without a job, or will be covering the Blazers/NBA in general???

Posted by Ben

12:47 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Bring us the TV rights to the Portland Trail Blazers!

Posted by dj

12:51 PM, Jul 03, 2008

what happens to calabro?

Posted by Ken

12:54 PM, Jul 03, 2008

I'm not a Dino Rossi fan but I plan on voting for him because I'm totally disgusted with Gregoire's handling of this situation and lack of leadership - everything needs to be studied by her as part of a task force. Also, the voters within Frank Chopp's district need to remember this when he is up for re-election. He is not afraid of openly being in the back pockets of the Tom McCabe and the BIAW folks (just look at the horribly cramped urban townhomes now taking over much of Seattle) but nobody is out to take care of the fans and little people to whom the Sonics have meant so much to over the past 41 years.

Posted by sonic fan

1:00 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Tear down key arena today! I still think the city should tear down empty key areana like they did with the kingdom? without an nba team the arena is obsolete and should be torn down today!

Posted by Brad

1:04 PM, Jul 03, 2008

OKC.home:

I would be interested in a job but I dont have any experience in grit-flipping, HoneyBucket emptying, or wood-widdling. Most of us up here, however, could be of great assistance to most Oklahomans by teaching an assortment of intellectual subject matter. We could help your populace get their G.E.Ds!

Posted by esco

1:12 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Yes Gregoire has dropped the ball on sonics but has done great things in other ereas despite the negative adds.

If you vote for Dino you are truly i nviting trouble.

Posted by Saltherring

1:12 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Flash: Clay Bennett has chosen "Okie City Peckerwoods" as his NBA team's new name. How befitting of his image and character.

Posted by sonic fan

1:22 PM, Jul 03, 2008

demolish key arena today! There is no way seattle is ever going to get another nba team! Period end of story. The nba is permanetly dead in seattle!

Posted by Fed UP

1:24 PM, Jul 03, 2008

The craving for money is pretty powerful. Greedy Howard Schultz got a nice deal with the new owners. Now that the team is much more valuable because of the draft choices the Sonics have gotten over the past two years, naturally the greedy Schultz would like to own the team once again. The mayor has got 45 million extra dollars to give to his contractor friends. So those two guys are pretty happy the way things are working out. I'm sure the governor had her hand in this dirty affair.

Posted by shortbus

1:35 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Has the city council approved of the settlement yet? If they haven't...mail or call them and tell them to reject the deal! If they have...vent!

http://www.seattle.gov/council/councilcontact.htm

Posted by C_HAWK1

1:37 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Is a Starbucks boycott the ultimate retaliation to Scultzs

Posted by Tired of Being Scammed

1:59 PM, Jul 03, 2008

I resent the foks from Oklahoma saying that there are a lot of homosexuals in Seattle. I don't know of one. I suppose those who look for perverts will find them. As far as the Sonics go, the fans got hustled by Schutlz, the mayor, and the governor. Maybe Seattle can get a NHL franchise. I just hope Schultz, the mayor, and the governor keep away from any NHL/Seattle dealings.

Posted by mikey

3:26 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Bennett can teach us all something:

... marry a rich girl.

Posted by Rob

4:41 PM, Jul 03, 2008

I'm glad the city stuck to its guns and didn't give in to the stick up that the NBA was attempting to perpetrate on it, especially during a downturn in the state and national economies.

The fact is that making concessions to sports teams never works out in the long run for local taxpayers and people shouldn't be mad at Seattle officials, but at David Stern for having a ridiculously inflated view of his league's place in society.

I used to live in Southern California and L.A. has done just fine without an NFL club. Outside of a couple of isolated councilmen in the inner part of the city, nobody cares if the NFL ever comes back there. Seattle will do equally as well without that embarrassment of a basketball squad.

Just remember the NBA's selfishness, people. Turn off those NBA games and watch the Seahawks and Mariners. Don't buy NBA jerseys or anything an NBA player endorses. We don't want another NBA franchise. Screw them. Make them pay for their hubris.

Posted by NBA Salt The Earth

7:46 PM, Jul 03, 2008

From now on I will boycott all OKC businesses, the NBA, and all of it's proud sponsors.
OKC wanted the NBA so their city would be on everybody's lips. They suceeded, only more often than not it's followed by the word a** holes.

Posted by Cap Hill

7:52 PM, Jul 03, 2008

OK Seattle. You all are such pathetic losers. Teams don't leave cities that support them. OKC will support a NBA team.
Now...slither back to you capitol hill bath house...
You always have the gay pride parade to chear for.
AWESOME!!!

Posted by UDUB

7:56 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Seattle always has the gay arts to follow. Don't be ashamed. It's OK. Embrace your cities strengths.

Follow UDUB basketball and football...both projected to be in the bottom of the PAC...Well, what's left? Mariners? Well, they are at the bottom too. Oh well, guess you should support "diversity".
What a pathetic bunch of self righteous elite idiots. Enjoy the mrmories mutha fuckas!

Posted by Gordie

8:17 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Nick Licata on Dori Monson:

"There are Sonics fans and there are taxpayers."

Why are Seattle's public service leaders not interested in the public or leading? If politicians were ranked by state, would our government be No. 50?

Posted by sold out

8:31 PM, Jul 03, 2008

sold out for a postage stamp and a piece of paper from the nba?

Posted by Jules

9:38 PM, Jul 03, 2008

it will never be the same.

Why not try something else?

MLS?
NHL?
NASCAR?
Tour de Cascades?

Posted by OKC Max

11:28 PM, Jul 03, 2008

Casey's dream....

U should pray for a new team & new owner (not Mr. Coffee who sold the team for profit).

Good luck!

Posted by expansion next year in seattle

11:47 PM, Jul 03, 2008

seattle sonic fans should demand the nba give seattle a expansion team next year.

Posted by jumpshot03

2:18 AM, Jul 04, 2008

This whole thing is crazy. One person to blame is that guy a couple of years ago who supported that inititive to not use Seattle tax dollars for professional sports and got it passed. I'm sorry I dont remember his name but he didnt help the situation. Another thing is, how will the team in OKC survive when they cant sign any players. The current Sonics already complained about moving to OKC and Bennett just said quite your crying. Durant and Green wont sign extensions to stay in a dust bowl like OKC and no player will want to go there as a free agent. Your not going to see a player on MTV cribs showing off his million dollar pad in OKC. Its just not going to happen. You wont be able to sign anyone unless they grew up there. If Bennett doesnt see this then he is a super idiot and his team will fail because they will always be terrible. Thats why OKC is not a good place for the NBA.

Posted by Jens

7:12 AM, Jul 04, 2008

I have been a sonics ticketholder for years I can honestly say I want no part of the NBA. We had 90 million got towards Key just 12 years ago...and this is the thanks we get?

No public spending for any arena coz it is a complete waste...it will be obsolete by the time its built. When will it stop? If this isn't blackmail and a damaged relationship what is? Are we just suppose pay them to stay? There is no loyalty. This is not the same league I grew up with and I don't want anything to do with them.

Are we really stupid enough to get back in bed with them after the way we've been abused?

Posted by Grasshopper

8:01 AM, Jul 04, 2008

Any thoughts or word of a Going Away Party? We could have a dunk tank with Gregoire, Pork-Chop NICkels, Licata, Sims, Frank Chopp, Howard Schultz as the dunkees.

I believe a huge going away party would be a great last hurrah and a way of saying thank you to the Sonics and Fans for the past 41 years.

Posted by Thug

8:57 AM, Jul 04, 2008

What a bunch of crybabies!
They left because you did not support them through the years. Last years season attendance was much like uw. They win, you show up. You lose, you stay at home sipping coffee trying to stay out of the rain.
OKC will embrace an NBA team. There are worse cities out their who have NBA teams...uh, have you ever fucking been to Detroit, Cleavland or Atlanta? OKC is actually a pretty nice clean smaller city. Reminds me a Wichita.
Say yo goodbyes and support something else.

Posted by Seattle fan

10:11 AM, Jul 04, 2008

"Don't be angry at politicians. They have simply been representing the majority which is what they should do."

This is exactly the attitude that lost the Sonics. Majority rule, screw everyone else! What a pathetic approach to democracy and one that will only screw Seattle in the end. Why don't you leave town in shame with the rest of the politicians when the new majority takes over next election. I'll bet you're the first to complain when you're in the minority and you don't get your way you pathetic loser. You're worse than the OKC thugs, you're an enemy from within.

Posted by Big Smooth

11:17 AM, Jul 04, 2008

the key arena is not the kingdome, why are there comparisons? "but the seahawks and mariners go new stadiums," it's bs. they got new stadiums cause the one they played in was falling apart, and extremely outdated, there's nothing wrong with the key other than seattle didn't give them a cushy deal. and for the people who dont think there was support, that is just you being ignorant and listening to the lies spewed by the NBA and the ownership group. ticket sales were down cause wins were down, this happens with every single professional sports franchise except the packers. we had the worst record in team history. attendence stats are also looked at wrongly, yes we were 3rd worst, but we sold over 78% of the tickets, win more than 20 games and that goes up drastically.

Posted by Rebuild the key now!

11:36 AM, Jul 04, 2008

Key arena should start immediately on a world class nba facility. I would model the new basketball court on stapels center in los angeles. Now that key arena is permanetly shut down lets start spending taxpayer cash immediately and get a nba expansion team next year!

Posted by T-Rav

11:51 AM, Jul 04, 2008

To all the seattle fans, i feel for you. If i was a fan for however long the Sonics have been there and they just pack their bags and leave i would be upset too. However, you who have wished harm upon my state should be ashamed of yourself. Having lost a friend in a tornado, i can't believe that you would wish death upon people because of a basketball team. Say what you want about Oklahoma city, it doesn't bother me because unless you've been here you no absolutely nothing about how modern of a city it is. Everyone that has visited the city has told me how beautiful of a city it is.

Posted by T-Rav

11:54 AM, Jul 04, 2008

But i do agree, my compadres here in OKC do not need to be on here talking trash. Be the bigger man and let them mourn.

Posted by ForeverSeattle

12:04 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Its the politicians job to represent the poeple who have spoken clealry.

Petty name calling does not change that.

No more NBA. They are disease that preys on the weakened segments of our body/society.

The strong-minded must look out for those that are easily coerced.

Posted by SonicStevo

12:27 PM, Jul 04, 2008

If we build a new arena our situation will be worsened multiple fold.

Trends working against success are:

The NBA is dying - The brand of basketball holds no suspense. No teamwork. No defense. No intensity. Just the very occasional greek god.

The NBA's broken business model - They will need a new capital infusion from the public in another few years to retain the gimmick factor as the game itself is boring as hell. Only way NBA works is if we give them money every few years. A vacuum in our public coffers if you will.

Poisoned well - If the public is forced to pay against its will who is going to support the team? This is going to be the most hated team in any community. We have supported and welcomed this league for 41 years and have tossed by the wayside like an aged whore. Obediently building them an arena financed by tax dollars at their specification would really render us a sad pathetic community and justify their treatment of us. As someone who has spent a majority a his sports like supporting the sonics I can honestly say I don't want the nba and will never support them.

Posted by Rick

12:51 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Great! Now let's get ice hockey--NHL!

Posted by B'hamster

1:20 PM, Jul 04, 2008

When calls are made because of which player is best known, or "star power", or market size--
even with honest refs, it's an exhibition.
NBA= "rasslin' " as an exhibition.
To continue to spend your time watching either
"sport" is toying with oneself.
Let's enjoy Husky B-ball and NHL.
Thanks for standing up to big oil slicks, mayor!
Look what's happened in Alaska and DC where
oil rules!

Posted by ocala

1:21 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Guys, I can't say anything to make you better but I know how you feel. When my Cleveland Browns left town I was devastated. Man, I feel for you guys in the worst way.
At the very least you kept the name, colors and records and hopefully one day that will apply to the new Sonics.

Hang in there guys :(

Posted by ken

1:24 PM, Jul 04, 2008

To me, the NBA is clearly #3 in terms of overall fan popularity taking a backseat to MLB and the NFL. This ranking is not going to be changing during at least the next generation (20 years). Emotions aside, David Stern is probably taking a sound business approach by trying to get teams into one -horse towns (Portland, OKC, Salt Lake City, Orlando, SAntonio, Memphis, Sacramento) where there is no competition from either the NFL or MLB. Local politicians and taxpayers can then be coerced into doing whatever the NBA team owner desires. I've lost interest in following a third-rate league that is getting worse in terms of competitive balance - a league with a few haves and a lot of have-nots who have no chance before the season even begins.

Posted by B'hamster

1:28 PM, Jul 04, 2008

When calls are made because of which player is best known, or "star power", or market size--
even with honest refs, it's an exhibition.
NBA= "rasslin' " as an exhibition.
To continue to spend your time watching either
"sport" is toying with oneself.
Let's enjoy Husky B-ball and NHL.
Thanks for standing up to big oil slicks, mayor!
Look what's happened in Alaska and DC where
oil rules!

Posted by B'hamster

1:30 PM, Jul 04, 2008

When calls are made because of which player is best known, or "star power", or market size--
even with honest refs, it's an exhibition.
NBA= "rasslin' " as an exhibition.
To continue to spend your time watching either
"sport" is toying with oneself.
Let's enjoy Husky B-ball and NHL.
Thanks for standing up to big oil slicks, mayor!
Look what's happened in Alaska and DC where
oil rules!

Posted by peter425

2:46 PM, Jul 04, 2008

NHL...First off you donkeys, you have to build an arena to support an NHL team...didn't the state just turn down a new arena for the Sonics? A group presented a proposal for NHL to share a new arena to Clay and Gov Greggie...which was turned down a year ago. Plus the NHL does not want expansion...you would have to move a team. Plus there were current owners of other local pro teams that showed the numbers for an NHL team and it didn't work in many ways for a town like Seattle. Hartford lost NHL in 95 and have been trying to get it back for the last two years with no avail.

Posted by purplereign

7:30 PM, Jul 04, 2008

I have only been in seattle for 6 months and never went to a sonics game,but this does feel painful. Forget the nba, spend that 150 million on husky stadium because uw isn't going anywhere. I do like the thought of bringing an nhl team to seattle instead.

Posted by Huskycrash

9:50 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Hear is a question for you all that feel our current leaders are doing a fine job just because you have the same party affiliation. Our democrats have a majority in the state senate and the house plus the governor. Yet we have an increase in spending along with an increase in debt. Our gas taxes are one of the highest in the nation and we the people are having a difficult time with our expenses. I know it's a popular thing to blame W Bush but our state leaders have a bigger influence on our lives then our President. If you put the blame on him then shouldn't you also look at the senate and house in D.C. also? Again it's led by the democrats and they have as much blame as GW. Whats happening is that the people elected to serve us are more inclined to serve themselves while we suffer the consequences. So I say what ever drives you to the polls this November so be it as long as you go and voice that God given right to vote.

Posted by katy

1:13 AM, Jul 05, 2008

After I read the arrogant diatribe from Stern on how Seattle must beg to get a NBA team back to Seattle, I have changed my tunes and will no longer support any efforts by the City to accomodate NBA basketball in this city again. Seattle is a world class city and NBA needs us far more than we need them. You think NBA will say anything remotely similar to what Stern just said to New York, Boston or Los Angeles? He basically dissed this city and its people.

Who needs them anyways. Many of these basketball players are not the kinds of influences I want for our kids. Their glorify the ghetto attitude is the last thing our children needs to see and for that reason alone I want them out. Seattle is the place to be. Trust me, I spent 10 years elsewhere and there is no other place talked about so longingly than Seattle. There are plenty of other sports venues who are desperate to have a home in Seattle. Let NBA go. Let it go forever until they decide to beg to return and without any accomodations. Until then, how about an NHL franchise? Hockey seems to be much more suited for this area anyways with its proximity to Canada and Vancouver.

Just spewing and I think I really mean it.

Posted by ken

11:28 AM, Jul 05, 2008

Purplereign: As a UW alum, if the money were to be spent wisely, I would support it going to modernize Husky Stadium. However, it likely will go to paying for more tutors for the UW football players and increasing easy course offering such as Swahili which players can then use to pad their GPA and remain eligible. (See the recent Seattle Times expose on UW and WSU football programs). Being able to get an NHL team here would be intriguing as the game has become much better as a result of changes made from the lockout a couple of years ago.

Posted by staples center

1:50 PM, Jul 05, 2008

Seattle should tear down key arena and build a new stadium like staples center in los angeles. That baskball arena is sweet! You got hockey, arena football, concerts, two basketball teams with clippers and lakers. If los angeles can build staples center then seattle should have no problem building a new ncaa basketball arena.

Posted by hawkfan

4:40 PM, Jul 05, 2008

I hate to say it, but the Sonics leaving may be a blessing in disguise... If those idiots in Olympia can actually stop 'talking' about it and make something happen, (remember these are the same people that continuously fail to upgrade our overflowing traffic-ridden highways) we can demolish Key Arena, and build a world class facility, -as previously mentioned like the Staples Center- we would be able to woo the NHL and even the AFL to Seattle. How sweet would it be to have another football team in Seattle and even hockey!!! The NBA may not be here for sometime but at least the option is there and we may be able to gain other professional franchises in the meantime.

As for the OKC idiots getting onto a Seattle blog, this is the reason you are just now getting a professional franchise, you have nothing better to do with your lives. Not to mention, if we didn't have previous retards running the team, your city would still be without one. Enjoy your new NBA team, but we'll see how our city supports a franchise that will be at the bottom of the standings as your city has already proven it cannot support a losing team. We supported them for 41yrs so your response is without merrit and ignorant.

Posted by Pete

4:52 PM, Jul 05, 2008

Posted by Isaac

5:28 PM, Jul 05, 2008

Just say no to the NBA.

Its a drug that damages the brain.

They have consumed our tax dollars and trated us like crap.

Morons really think politicians should have build Bennet his palace? Thanks you representatives for representing the people and not giving into the KJR nutcase fringe element. No more NBA welfare!

Posted by Ryan

11:26 PM, Jul 05, 2008

Ice Hockey?

Seriously, folks, hockey?

A sport with nearly zero market, zero interest, and zero television? Hockey?

What I see there is a lot of pride from the T-Birds fans, and as a Spokane Chief follower I'm right there with you. I can't, however, see any way for the NHL to be successful in Seattle. Soccer and the AFL would both have a much better chance.

Posted by No To NBA

4:17 AM, Jul 06, 2008

I just hope the city/state doesn't get desperate and approve money to renovate the arena again in hopes of landing another NBA franchise. That means the Stern led NBA wins. Seattle does not need the NBA, the NBA will find out they need Seattle and I don't anything to do with the smug, arrogant Stern. Can't wait to see OKC suck for years to come and have to move, hopefully Stern is still commish just so we get to see him double-talk and stammer about the situation and show how much of a jerk he is. Oh wait, he does that everytime he speaks.

Posted by Kollin

6:32 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Hopefully the Seattle Media will always refer to them as the Oaklahoma Rustlers

Posted by NBA

8:34 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Ah...we finally get a pro team. Watch us show up to games, sell them out, and actually win in part due to excitement.
Sorry for your loss Seattle.
You always have gay pride!

Posted by Pokenour

10:11 AM, Jul 06, 2008

The very idea that OKC can share the Seattle Supersonics' history is repugnant and offensive to the intangible value which a sports franchise holds for its fans. Likely the duplicated championship trophy will be the closest that the OKC team ever gets to having one of their own, however, Bennett has in effect stolen the spirit of Seattle by acquiring the rights to team history and to duplicate the its memorabilia. Nothing could be worse, it is a theft of the very intangible values that the city witnesses tried to articulate at the trial and, by agreeing to this settlement, the city of Seattle has sold its soul.

The city went to court saying they would fight for the Sonics and force Bennett to play the last two years of a binding lease in Seattle come what may. It was a strong principled stance, but in the end, all they managed to accomplish was to secure enough funds - $45 million - to retire the Key Arena debt and a slippery promise to acquire another $30 million in effective damages. But it is unlikely they will ever see any of this $30 million as the state legislature remains unlikely to authorize a Key Arena makeover. So what did the city accomplish? City leaders proved themselves to be hypocrites in settling for the money. They denied the very intangible argument that they made at the trial. They sold out the fans for cash, it is an old song of selling one's soul to the devil.

Some explanations say it was the best way to preserve the hope for a future NBA franchise in Seattle, but this is delusional. There is no backbone is such a argument, the Sonics history is now owned by Clay Bennett and moving to OKC, how can anyone hope for a rebirth of the Sonics in Seattle? The team that was the Seattle Supersonics with all its history is now compromised that very history has been sold to the devil in OKC. While we will never forget those historical moments of Sonics basketball, they are ours only in our hearts, as OKC can display them at will and claim them in continuity throughout franchise history.

For myself, this tarnishes any hope for a future Seattle NBA team, which will never have the continuity with the original Sonics. Sadly it is a repeat of the Charlotte settlement without the assurance of an expansion team. In Charlotte, there are now Bobcats, however, there is no continuity with the original Hornets which reflect in their name an original Native American - Cherokee - myth centered on the origin of the hornet species, which came from an ancient natural mound now surrounded by the city. As a result, Shinn stole more than a basketball team, he stole the spirit of the place when he moved the team to New Orleans and continued the history of the Hornets.

Of course, there are many precedents of this kind of spiritual thief in moving sports franchises from one place to another. How can the LA team reflect the spirit of the Brooklyn theme that is Dodgers? SF the NY Giants? where are the lakes - Lakers from Minnesota - in Los Angeles? Grizzlies in Memphis, give me a break, there is no organic connection and therefore a failed totemism. It goes on and on, but greatest insult is the theft of a team's history with its original totemic connection to an organic theme of it place of origin. Such is the theft of soul - with this agreement, the city of Seattle has clearly sold its soul to the Devil in the person of Mr. Clay Bennett.

Given such treachery, who wants a replacement NBA franchise. it is just another way of having your heart broken. Despite its minimal presence as a major city, OKC has fleeced Seattle, a self-proclaimed world class city. It did so by employing the ethics of a scoundrel named Clay Bennett, nothing less than a classic example of a carpet bagger stealing from those fans who had been made defenseless by outsider moguls - the coffee baron - and spineless Pacific Northwest politicians. Aren't governments supposed to secure and protect the interests of the people? Prevent theft of the community assets?

Party to this theft, the NBA is exposed as the corrupt and failed institution that it is - referee scandals, extortion driving commissioner, and a failed business model. Do we really want such a league for Seattle? Yet, the city's politicians have grown so blind to moral principle as to settle for this debacle in giving away its soul for cash. The NBA is corrupt, but now so is the city of Seattle, it is has lost its moral compass for cash considerations. There can be merit of hope based on this kind of duplicity, let the Supersonics R.I.P and shut the door to the NBA forever.

In one last point, the city should make sure that it gets that $30 million compensation from Clay Bennett as a consolation prize. Likely the legislature will not fund the makeover of Key Arena, but there is a way. The city can pledge the $45 million in hand and the coming $30 million to a makeover deal of the Key thereby making up the shortfall that is necessary if the original Ballmer proposal and then the assurance necessary for taking Clay's blood money is in place and after five years you get the good ole boy's compensation.

In the final analysis, it is time to put an end to this charade that is the NBA. Well endowed civic minded folks, like Ballmer, should look to bring down the NBA and end its reign of corruption. To do so, they might take away little David Stern's dream to an International NBA. How so, start a new league that incorporates Seattle with several major US markets together with Stern's coveted international markets - Europe, China, etc. In many ways, the resources are already in place with the emergence of European basketball. Why not simple incorporate a league that includes selected major cities of Europe, Asia and North America? Teams could play a continental and then meet in the playoffs so as to minimize operating expenses. It would them be a true world championship. But be sure and make the officials independent of league control. Say goodbye forever to the NBA and hello to a brave new world of basketball in Seattle. It might become the World Cup of basketball. The likes of OKC have no place in such a world market and make all assurances to see that the new league is free of corruption, such as common to David Stern's NBA.

Good riddance to the NBA, false hope and its corruption.

Posted by Seattle?

10:23 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Now that is a pathetic manic rant...
the common theme in most Seattle writers is how superior a town Seattle is over OKC. Of course, moste of you who have posted have never been to OKC, or for that matter, east of the mountains. THis is the same rant that many on the west side direct towards Spokane etc. Again, nmost have not been to such places.
Where does the arrogance come from? Seriously? I do not live in Seattle or Spokane etc. I have lived in both places for a # of years. The "pecking order" in the PNW is bizarre. People not from there do not get either.
So...please explain ranters. And don't start with talking about Microsoft, Starbucks, Boeing etc. Many cities have strong economies and business etc. Nothing to be aggogant about. Portland doesn't have it. I have not seen it it Boston, Atlant, SF, or even Boise for that matter. Only Seattle.

Posted by Prince of Darkness

10:31 AM, Jul 06, 2008

NOTE to OKC gloaters: Get your dumb asses off this blog! In years to come, you and your team will pay the same price - endless extortion for a new arena, corporate and NBA corruption, impossible odds of dealing with the NBA's broken business model, virtually no chance at merit in winning a championship. You'll be lucky to last a decade in your podunk hick town. Like with the oil companies and their corruption that run your state, "There will be Blood" to pay. Yours is coming, so get a life and keep your dumb ass comments to yourself. Or "I'll lay your souls away," "woo woo... what's my name...".

Posted by IDIOT

10:35 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Now that is a pathetic manic rant...
the common theme in most Seattle writers is how superior a town Seattle is over OKC. Of course, moste of you who have posted have never been to OKC, or for that matter, east of the mountains. THis is the same rant that many on the west side direct towards Spokane etc. Again, nmost have not been to such places.
Where does the arrogance come from? Seriously? I do not live in Seattle or Spokane etc. I have lived in both places for a # of years. The "pecking order" in the PNW is bizarre. People not from there do not get either.
So...please explain ranters. And don't start with talking about Microsoft, Starbucks, Boeing etc. Many cities have strong economies and business etc. Nothing to be aggogant about. Portland doesn't have it. I have not seen it it Boston, Atlant, SF, or even Boise for that matter. Only Seattle.

Posted by Princess of Darkness

10:40 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Prince of Darkness...
Should that not be, Princess of Darkness? Was that your "stage name" in the Gay Pride Parade last week? Were you one of the 400,000 to attend? Nothing wrong with pride parades at all. Absolutely not. I would question why a city would come out in those numbers for a parade, but not support a NBA team. Interesting. Seattle is not sports minded.. Thats fine. An NBA team will fit nicely in OK. It's a state with over 100 years of sports excelence. Now, they can add a NBA team to get the same results.
Stop complaining people and suport what you have...UW, SU, Mariners etc... Bummer for you, but you lost it by not attendinggames and having a consistently losing teams. It's business...

Posted by Seattle?d

10:42 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Good attempt "IDIOT". Not very well done. Want to try again?

Posted by Imbecile

10:49 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Good attempt "IDIOT". Not very well done. Want to try again?

Posted by Prince of Darkness

10:51 AM, Jul 06, 2008

OKC be DAMNED! A CURSE on YOU OKIES! DAMNATION and HELL FIRE be yours! SATAN has SPOKEN! LIVE with that YOU SORRY BASTARDS!

Posted by San Fran

10:56 AM, Jul 06, 2008

Seattle is a gay town. Fine. I have no problem with that. Stop trying to be something you are not. You will never be Boston, NYC, LA or San Fran...oops, maybe San Fran.

Posted by Odwallaman

12:01 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Anybody watching Wimbledon?

As a long-time Sonic watcher, I just realized today that tennis is a helluva lot more interesting than the NBA.

Its amazing what one can see once the clouds clear.

Posted by Shawn Kemp

1:25 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Seattle should petition to become a part of the Republic of California, because Sea-town is left-coast looney. Now, Seattle doesn't have an NBA team. What a joke of a town. Coffee and hippies.

Posted by Old Nick

3:01 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Yea, Okie, maybe we should join with California, Oregon and other northern blue states to petition Canada to join a decent union where people and ethics are respected. At least, we would not have to share a national identity with the likes of you Okie scum and GWB types. And with our departure from this broken empire, we would take most of your present economy with us.

And by the way, you Okie scum shame on you for lying and using the venerated Sonics star's name, I hope the reign man sues your lying ass off for stealing his identity and misrepresenting his truth.

Posted by tonas

3:41 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Its not the first time Oklahoma screwed over Seattle. Remember Brian Bosworth?

Its OK Oklahoma we still have an NFL & MLB team. Whats really going to be fun is hearing the players complain that there isn't anything to do in Oklahoma. There was always plenty of something for them to do here in Seattle, I'm sure cow tipping is going to get old quick.

Posted by Walk my Wally

4:09 PM, Jul 06, 2008

When I really think about it, it occurs to me that a lot of the blame for where we are at should start with Wally Walker and the day he fired Geroge Karl.

Sure we had problems in the playoffs, but we were WINNING AND GETTING INTO the playoffs. At that point in the history of this team, everything began to turn for the worse, and here we are today.

So thanks for nothing Wally. You are the suckiest suck to ever suck.

Posted by Old Nick

4:16 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Send Wally to an Oklahoma exile, the Okie and he deserve each other.

Posted by Let it Bleed

4:29 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Time to come up with a new plan to bleed Clay and company, maybe he will want to sell before 2013 particularly if his wife's fortune is at stake. Bleed Clay bleed!

Posted by Bleed Clay

4:36 PM, Jul 06, 2008

Schultz needs to make good on his suit, he owes it to Seattle. The season tickets holder need to stay strong in their suit, bleed Clay bleed.

Clay Bennett is nothing less than an old time carpet bagger, like the robber barons, lying and stealing themselves to wealth and pleasure. Such people are shameless and they deserve only scorn for their anti-social behavior. The stealing of a respected franchise with a forty one year history is a shameless act and the NBA ought to be ashamed of a league that would let this happen.

Lets start a World Cup Basketball League and run the shameless bastards out of business.

Posted by Old Nick

4:43 PM, Jul 06, 2008

World Cup Basketball League -

Four teams in Asia - 2 in China, 1 in Japan and 1 in Korea.

Eight teams in North America - including Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Las Vegas - Kansas City, Brooklyn, others to be determined

Four teams in Europe - London, Paris, Berlin, Rome

Sixteen team field.

Posted by Old Nick

4:49 PM, Jul 06, 2008

World Cup Basketball - perhaps teams could come to cities and play three games series like in baseball, so as to hold the travel down a bit.

The old situation doesn't work, think about a new solution.

Posted by BoomerSooner

8:00 PM, Jul 06, 2008

"Well the only thing I can take from this is that if every member of the city council and mayor get re-elected then the “people” of Seattle had no interest in keeping the Sonics here."

DUDE - IT BECAME A PROVEN FACT TWO YEARS AGO THAT THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE HAD NO INTEREST IN KEEPING THE SONICS! 70%+ voted AGAINST bringing Key up to current NBA standards. That, my friend, was the kiss of death.

OKC voted nearly 70% to the good to continue the existing sales tax to fund upgrades to our arena. Now, which hand do you think Stern would have to play?

Everyone is trying to make this so complicated - legalese, thieves, etc -- it all boils down to Seattle didn't want a team badly enough and the people of OKC were ready to do whatever it took to get a team.

And you see the results.

Posted by Mark Goyette

9:47 PM, Jul 06, 2008

You guys don't get it at all do you. The team was lost the minute Schultz sold them to Bennett. The city, county, and State weren't willing to do the only thing that would have forced Bennett to keep the team there. Meet his demands and build a new, bigger Arena, and then force him to sign a prelease for 10 years once it was completed. If this guy is the type of person you claim he is he would have lost interest in the team in that time period and would have sold it. A preleased arena would have closed any chance he had of moving the Sonics by 2010, when the Key lease was up, and if he refused to sign the lease Schultz would have actually had some ground for the "good faith" lawsuit he is pulling right now to protect his butt from being pummeled up there in Seattle for the crap he has pulled, but since the city refused to talk about a new venue for the team, probably because they were making more money off the team in Key Arena, Clay can now claim "I was willing to work with the city but they refused." as his defence. You lost the team because of your leadership, it wasn't Clay Bennetts fault, he found himself a team that he knew damn good and well that the city and county was run by a bunch of uptight penny pinching politicians and the most he would have to face is a full 3 years and then the team would be his to do with as he pleases. The city made this circus case about a lease enforcement, which is rarely up-held in court when there is clearly a deep seeded disagreement between the two parties, and the city had no long term way of enforcing the lease after 2010. To people that this matters to, which is clearly no politician in Washington State, everybody should have been bending over backwards to make it so Bennett would resign a long term lease with the city, instead they were penning their hopes that Bennett would sell the team back to someone local, that the city could force the team to stay through the lease, and now penning the hopes on a case that is at best described as a "sales regret" case being brought on by Schultz because there are a lot of sour sports fans pounding on his door and a lot of politicians placing the blame on him. This situation isn't Bennetts fault, it is your own, the only thing Bennett did is found a team with a few very important criteria that was for sale, and he took advantage of it, and as it is he probably got it for far less that what he would have had to pay the NBA to get a top spot on the future expansions list, which is rarely enacted because of the number of qualified cities needed to just expand the NBA team totals.

Posted by Prince of Darkness

8:01 AM, Jul 07, 2008

A curse on you Okies and Bennett - eternal Damnation to you! Satan speaks your name!

Posted by sports in seattle

12:46 PM, Jul 07, 2008

Now that sonics are history, why not go after hockey, arena football, nascar, boxing, pga golf. I would probably go after a pro hockey team and arena football at key arena. Maybe call the now hockey team seattle supersonic as a memorial for the nba sonic team that is now in oklahoma.

Posted by Sad Alaskan Fan

1:26 AM, Jul 09, 2008

Stern you dumbass, you just sold out the city of Seattle for your own greed. How is OKC going to ever replace 41 years of history and rivalries the SONICS created in SEATTLE?! We Alaskans feel screwed just as well, alot of us view Seattle pro teams as our own. Never agian will I ever watch another NBA game. Think Stern, populations differences between Washington and Oklahoma, how is Ok. meager population compared to Wa. is ever going to improve ratings! MORON=STERN

Posted by cob

2:14 PM, Jul 11, 2008

WOW Seattle.

You are really sounding like the pathetic, loser ex-boyfriend here. I can see why you couldn't keep her.

I know oklahoma has its stereotypes.
Seattle SO DO YOU ! its DEPRESSION !
and its really showing. So stop proving everyone right,
wipe your snotty nose and take it like a man. You're really looking pitiful.

And everyone else stop hating on okc because he's with the HOT chick now.

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