Danny O'Neil covers the Seahawks for The Seattle Times.
August 11, 2008 11:31 AM
Posted by Danny O'Neil
Bobby Engram suffered a cracked bone in his shoulder and will miss six to eight weeks.
Engram suffered in the injury on his first catch in Friday's exhibition game in Minnesota. He did not practice Sunday, but his injury was not disclosed.
Holmgren said in the worst-case scenario, Branch won't be back until after the Seahawks by in Week 4. Seattle plays the Super Bowl champion New York Giants the week after its bye. That game is Oct. 4.
The Seahawks already are practicing without wide receiver Deion Branch, who is recovering from knee surgery. The injury to Engram puts them in a situation in which the Seahawks may have to carry more receivers than they initially planned on the 53-man roster.
"You have two receivers who are going to be on the roster, but might not be playing," Holmgren said. "You've got to keep those guys so you can't really fiddle around with that number too much. In fact, you might have to add a number to it."
Defensive tackle Marcus Tubbs is a free agent after he was released. The technical term -- NFL-ese -- is terminated/failed physical. It sounds so drastic, but it just really means that he doesn't have to clear waivers. Tubbs was a first-round pick in 2004. He underwent surgery to repair a torn knee ligament suffered last season in an exhibition game. He had not practiced. Coach Mike Holmgren said Tubbs' did some running and had the knee swell up on him. The team released him because he failed a physical. He had not practiced yet this season.
Linebacker Lofa Tatupu returned to practice. He sat out Sunday's workout with a sore knee. Matt Hasselbeck did not return. He's out with a sore back.
The other player who returned was defensive end Nu'u Tafisi.
Posted by Woburn mA
11:38 AM, Aug 11, 2008
ouch! so much for a new contract. And now say failure to #1 pick!
Posted by Southeast Seahawk
11:42 AM, Aug 11, 2008
Too bad for Tubbs, guess we’ll never really know what he could have been. Now Engram’s out too. Holy smokes are we even going to have 53 players for the season opener? I know injuries are part of the game but damn!
Posted by swab
11:48 AM, Aug 11, 2008
So appearently Spencer is not back yet either. Great. Lets ignore WR, this is what happens. Red Bryant better get back soon. courtney taylor better stay healthy. Burleson better learn how to run routes finallly.
Posted by hawkowl
11:59 AM, Aug 11, 2008
What exactly are the rules regarding release of a player who fails a physical. Shaun Alexander could not be released until he passed a physical, I've heard this in other cases as well. And then occasionally you hear about a guy like Tubbs who is released without passing a physical. Does this type of release require an injury settlement?
Posted by alan
12:17 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Tubs can re-sign but he is a free agent.
We will be alright Branch should be back by week 1 or two and we play Buffalo week 1.
Posted by shane
12:35 PM, Aug 11, 2008
trade for bolden now!
stop messin around!
Posted by dhardw
12:41 PM, Aug 11, 2008
When do we hit the panic button with Spencer?
Posted by CW
12:44 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Aren't Terry Glenn and Joe Horn free agents right now? Why not sign one of them?
Posted by shane
12:47 PM, Aug 11, 2008
some free agents
Posted by Ziasudra
12:54 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Just remember, all you "sign so-and-so-ers," Engram and Branch count against the 53 man roster. So we have four or five WR's working, 2 more inactive - who do you drop in the meantime? RB? DL? forget it. We don't need some other team's rejects. Our young guys will be just fine, thank you. In fact, we'll hide some useful new guys on the practice squad, just like last year.
It also looks like we found two jewels in undrafted rookies, Hawthorne, and Jamar Adams.
We are goiong 13-3 enroute to the SB. You could probably get 10 to 1 or higher odds from Las Vegas - a sure thing in my mind.
Posted by Keith
1:02 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Well this is horrible news. Engram is always the rock that provides the tempo on the first hawks drive of each game. He is usually a piece that helps us to 3-7 points. Deion probably won't even be a factor this whole season, he has never had consistent play so how can he know our offense?
The young guys at WR would do fine, but the tempo might be bad. Hasselbeck needs to heal up too. He really is a guy that doesn't really need to see any preseason games as long as he is practicing.
This is bad news for the Seahawks. Last time I heard "cracked bone" it never even healed, so blah.
Posted by CoachK
1:04 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Branch could go on the PUP list, which would make him inactive for, I believe, four weeks. Then you could bring him back to the active roster, at which time SOME injury will sort it all out.
Roster moves are going to start getting dicey.
Posted by GrizzlyHawk
1:24 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Looks like Taylor, Obamanu, Kent and Payne may all get a shot now. Add Carlson into the mix and the Hawks may have the youngest receiving corps in the league until Branch and Engram come back. Let's hope all that "potential" we've been hearing about at training camp turns into production in the regular season.
Posted by john
1:39 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Bum Bum Bum Bumpus needs to step up now. The slot is his position, played it for four years in college, and this is his opportunity. He played well against Minny, now lets see how he does against 1st team defenses. Worst case is Week 5, and before that we're @ Buffalo, then have SF and STL at home, so I think our young WR corps can step up until Bobby comes back. All three of those games can be won by our D, assuming THEY stay healthy!
Posted by Bud
2:52 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Tubbs is the poster child for drafting need over best player available. But that is life... I love our young recievers, Bumpus is goin to be the next Engram. Kent is exactly what the seahawks have been missing, a reciever that can stretch the field and climb the ladder to catch the ball.
Posted by Keith
2:54 PM, Aug 11, 2008
At this moment, I miss DJ Hackett a little bit, but not much.
Burleson, Obumanu, Taylor are all solid. The other guys all look good too.
Posted by PJ
3:27 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Good thing management let DJ Hackett walk. Sure couldn't use him right about now. I'm sure Jordan Kent or Joe Filani will be as good as he is. Well done, Ruskell.
At least the vaunted defense carry the Hawks until the WRs get back. The same defense that made Tarvaris Jackson look like Dan Marino last Friday.
Posted by JSC
3:55 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Unfortunate situation for Engram. He is the quintessential WR in blue, and its always a little difficult not seeing him on the field.
However, I am happy there is a chance for BUMP-BUMP-BUMPUS!
Posted by northamericanscum
4:55 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Look, injuries are a part of football. Look at our first three game. @ Buffalo, vs. San Francisco, vs. Rams, BYE Week. Can you say 3-0. Engram and Branch back after the bye week.
At the very least, all the youngsters have to step up. Burleson can earn some of that ridiculous contract too. I am looking at this as a positive. Anyone else feel me here?
Posted by 12th Man T.Hast
5:29 PM, Aug 11, 2008
"Good thing management let DJ Hackett walk. I'm sure Jordan Kent or Joe Filani will be as good as he is. Well done, Ruskell."
Ironically, I bet the very people who are saying this today were saying the same thing about Hackett himself when we let D-Jack go.
Posted by No.12
8:46 PM, Aug 11, 2008
Glad to see Tubbs gone, too bad it took so long, as he should have been jettisoned two years ago.
Hopefully Engram's able to make it back, but he's old, and the team can rally and march forward. Not like Engram hasn't been out before, and there's young talent that can catch & run.
Posted by Tony Soprano
9:35 PM, Aug 11, 2008
I think it's time to put Seneca at WR.
Posted by Born free
9:36 PM, Aug 11, 2008
I'll bet anyone fifty U.S.bucks Branch comes back he won't last the season, I think he's just a skinny Tubbs!! If his so good why did New England let him go....you don't dump gold...fraguel.
It was New England, right?
Posted by No.12
3:00 AM, Aug 12, 2008
Branch didn't have any injuries with New England. Also, NE has a philosophy of not breaking the bank and being held hostage by their top players-- they simply let them walk. Tom Brady is the only top player that they've re-signed to a big deal, and even then Brady got less than he would have elsewhere.
NE simply drafts new players and signs aging veterans at a discount and milks the last bit of performance out of them.
Posted by free lunch
8:16 AM, Aug 12, 2008
Branch didn't have injuries in NE, guess he saved them for us?
Posted by ArizHawk
11:51 AM, Aug 12, 2008
I agree with shane!
Go after Anquan Boldin he's not happy and we could use him. If he is affordable. I've watched that guy the last two hawks games here in AZ and he hurts us.
Posted by No.12
9:30 PM, Aug 12, 2008
Just like Hackett & Engram saved their injuries for us, too.
Posted by No.12
9:34 PM, Aug 12, 2008
Go after Boldin "if he's affordable." Boldin's not happy because he want Larry Fitzgerald money, or what D-Jack called "D.B." money. I don't thing Boldin would be affordable be either the measure of salary demand or compensation demanded by Arizona. Nothing's impossible, though.
D-Jack really shined after we jettisoned his jilted ego.
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