Geoff Baker covers the Mariners for The Seattle Times. He provides daily coverage of the team throughout spring training, and during the season.
August 13, 2008 6:37 PM
Posted by Geoff Baker
So, I'm going to have to stop listening to scouts at the breakfast table because Raul Ibanez was definitely claimed on waivers today, as was Jarrod Washburn. Ibanez told me he was informed, by someone in-the-know, upon arriving at the park today that a claim on him had been put in. Washburn also received similar information.
The team now has until tomorrow to work out a deal. Actually, it has 48 1/2 "business day hours'' from when the claim was made. So, if it was made today, it would be Friday. If yesterday, which is what folks are saying, it would be tomorrow. Or else, it can pull the players back. Or, allow them to be claimed for salary owed. That won't happen with Ibanez, who is owed less than $2 million and still has value. It might with Washburn, owed roughly $13 million from now through 2009.
In Ibanez's case, we're trying to confirm it, but the Tampa Bay Rays would certainly be a claimant, as would the Boston Red Sox (attempting to block the Rays from acquiring him) and the Toronto Blue Jays (who could secure draft picks if Ibanez leaves as a free-agent after the season). But others could be in on him as well, including the New York Mets and Chicago Cubs. We'll see. He has no idea.
With Washburn, it could be limited. I keep hearing the St. Louis Cardinals might be the team but I can't say for certain. I know that's not too precise. But nothing is.
Take the Rays to the bank with Ibanez. They just lost left fielder Carl Crawford for the year. Their pennant hopes are hanging by a thread. Trouble is, the Red Sox and others can block such a deal.
Posted by marinersbrian
6:49 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Well if it's true- and it probably is, I'd like to say good luck Raul. I hope you get a chance to play deep into October.
As for Washburn, he just never fulfilled the potential and with his salary, maybe we can make some sound choices this winter.
Posted by Balentienforcer
6:56 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Hopefully something can be worked out, and give us a little clearer path to the future....Please don't let the FO drop the ball again........Raul going will help the OF situation right now, and Wash going will help a young pitcher get a groove for the rest of the year.
Good luck to both.....a reason for us to watch the postseason at least!!
Posted by Dave from the 'say it isn't so' coast
6:57 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Watching the M's with the impending Ibanez waiver deal hanging over my head feels not dissimilar to watching someone with a terminal disease wither away and die. If Ibanez goes, I will be sad. He's one of the few bright spots this team's had this year. He'd be great to have around to teach younger players the ropes. But if Raul goes, I wish him well. He has really grown as a player over the years; he's rock-solid, and the M's need more, lots more, like him.
Posted by Ms Fan in Exile
7:05 PM, Aug 13, 2008
I sincerely hope that the Rays are the ones that got the claim. That puts this deal in a better position. The M's can then demand two prospects equal to the two high picks that the Rays would receive when Raul leaves at the end of the year.
*Note*- Ms Fan in CO Exile = couldn't find anything more original?? :-)
Posted by Resin isn't Cheating
7:25 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Reed should be benched immediately after this inning. Fair is fair Riggleman.
Posted by Resin isn't Cheating
7:27 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Good pitchers get out of jams. Like I said the other day.
Posted by shane/olympia
7:36 PM, Aug 13, 2008
anything coming back in return for them like how the reds got 3 players for adam dunn
Posted by RagArm
7:36 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Sad day saying goodbye to Raul. Love shouting out his name with emphasis when he comes up to bat or when he hits it out of the park. Let's hope we get something decent out of the deal. Don't quite trust FO.
Washburn had his moments, but drove us all crazy with inconsistency and falling apart an inning or two. I think he could flourish somewhere where he's challenged.
Anyway, Rauls leaving creates more of a vaccum in the clubhouse. Oh woe.
Posted by Seadog
7:40 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Geoff - thank you for the timely news.
Posted by Sounders
7:57 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Message for Howie and Chuckie:
We will not be swayed by your meaningless manoeuvres!!!!
Step Off. Do It Now!!
Posted by Adam
8:14 PM, Aug 13, 2008
RagArm - Uh, Ibanez and Washburn haven't been traded or moved in any way. They are both Mariners.
Posted by MN M's Fan
8:19 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Good luck Raul! The end of an era, I believe he is the last Mariner on the roster to play the first game at Safeco Field.
Posted by Scott
8:55 PM, Aug 13, 2008
If we lose Ibanez and Washburn, we are going to lose 120 games. But, at least, we'll have the No. 1 overall pick to look forward to and we'll have been the only team to have a $100M payroll and lose 100 games, which ain't too shabby.
Posted by AKMarinersFan
9:19 PM, Aug 13, 2008
Geoff - Good luck to you where ever you end up.
Posted by -j.
10:00 PM, Aug 13, 2008
"If we lose Ibanez and Washburn, we are going to lose 120 games."
So you think removing Washburn from the rotation will cause us to lose more games?
Posted by Alfred G. Packer
11:04 PM, Aug 13, 2008
The good thing about Raul leaving, if he does, is that we will ot longer have to listen to the sabergeeks and their devotees whine about Raul's defense. I'm convinced the guy could hit .400 with 40 home runs (which is about the pace he's been on since the All-Star game) and they'd still be bitching about some phony defensive statistics.
At least it will shut them up and we won't have to listen to USS RAULSUCKS constant drivel about him.
Posted by Big Ebu
8:58 AM, Aug 14, 2008
I doubt Ibanez goes anywhere. The only way this would happen is if Tampa was awarded the rights to negotiate with Seattle. But I find it hard to believe that Boston would fall asleep at the switch and let Ibanez get past them. They really donít need Ibanez and I would find it hard to believe that they would be willing to give Seattle players/prospects that are of more value to the FO than the two draft picks we would get if he left as a free agent.
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