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August 8, 2008 3:56 PM

Bavasi hired by Reds

Posted by Geoff Baker

No, not as a general manager. But Bill Bavasi is going to be a special assistant to GM Walt Jockety with the Reds. This does not surprise me. Many former GMs get hired around the game. The Mariners had one in Dan Evans before he left to become a head honcho with a scouting firm. The first GM I ever covered, Gord Ash, was run out of Toronto in similar fashion to Bavasi this year. But Ash has thrived as an assistant GM with the Miwaukee Brewers for several years now.

Not every baseball executvie is cut out to succeed as a GM. But that does not make them any less of an executive. Bavasi is respected around the game for his time put in when it comes to scouting and development. And don't forget. Hire him and eventually, you might get to bring over some of the people who used to work for him in Seattle. Been known to happen. There are a number of top people in this organization, Bob Fontaine being one of them. I'm not speculating about anything. Just saying stuff happens.

Bavasi had been in this game too long to be jobless for any length of time. Here's to wishing him best of luck.

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Posted by Mike

4:07 PM, Aug 08, 2008

I not only wish him the best I wish that they put him in charge of all trades and he calls the Ms.

Posted by cesame

4:15 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Good guy, just terrible at what he does.

GL Reds fans, you're gonna need it.

Posted by ungruntled

4:17 PM, Aug 08, 2008

And I was really looking forward to asking him to supersize my meal.

Posted by mikey

4:23 PM, Aug 08, 2008

i dont wish him any luck at all. he ruined our team.

Posted by Chris from Bothell

4:29 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Can someone remind me of his great scouting and development achievements? I'm serious, I can't remember them. are there specific players he directly found? Is his experience largely in building talented scouting organizations? Or is his rep largely due to mis-attributing the Angels' 02 WS success to him?

Posted by Sweet Lou

4:32 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Too bad a team from our divsion didn't hire him! He is fine as a Farm Director - a terrible GM.

BTW - good one Ungruntled!

Posted by Al

4:33 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Bavasi can take Fontaine and whoever else as long as Bob Engle remarins. Come on. if Bavasi want's to take the scouts who thought Vidro, Batista, Silva, Reitsma, Weaver and Ramirez were going to be good, then that's even better.

I really don't see why Engle would leave when he was here before Bavasi and really has nothing to do with that guy. So say what you want a chunk of key players ( You know somebody like Felix and Ichiro ) for this team and organiztion actually are due to Engle and his staff and not Fontaine and Bavasi.

Posted by jimbob

4:35 PM, Aug 08, 2008

you're worried about him taking some of the front office people??? who the hell cares ?!? could he please, please, please take Armstrong and Lincoln, too. the masses should send the management packing to the hinterlands for re-education and or summary execution...Mao would be proud!!!

Posted by The Mariners FO.

4:46 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Hey Chuck!!
Yaa Howard, whatís up?
Have you ever been to Cincinnati, I hear they have a ball club there and Iíve got an in for us. Lets get packed and check it out.
Howard do you suppose they broadcast on WKRP?

Posted by bob

4:51 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Aren't the M's still on the hook for his salary, or does a firing act to tear up his contract?

Posted by matt

5:02 PM, Aug 08, 2008

This is the sort of lame analysis you get from sites like USSM (http://ussmariner.com/2005/12/29/papelbon-and-lester/) [stating it would be foolish for the M's to trade Reed to the Red Sox for Pepelbon or Lester]

It would be nice if the analyses and projections for players adopted a dose of humility, since all the numbers in the world will not be able to absolutely predict future performance in baseball.

Posted by Chuck

5:41 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Great--maybe he can get Lincoln and Armstrong hired by the Reds!

Posted by ancient mariner

5:54 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Other than a famous baseball last name, Bill had nothing to offer.

Posted by Ry

6:31 PM, Aug 08, 2008

"Bavasi had been in this game too long to be jobless for any length of time."

The only reason he's even in the game of baseball is his father. The guy is a horrible, horrible GM and honestly, it's nearly impossible to imagine him as being any better in a different post.

Posted by DownonStrikes

8:04 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Why? The Reds are gonna tank big time.

Bill Bavasi did the Mariners harm and I do not wish him luck or good will. He is a jerk with connections.

The Cincinnati fans should be trembling.

Posted by craigmont

11:04 PM, Aug 08, 2008

Maybe we can trade Washburn and Silva to the Reds now! Heck, we could sweeten the deal and throw in Vidro.

Posted by Brian

4:40 AM, Aug 09, 2008

Bavasi doesn't need luck. He needs a freaking miracle.

Posted by teegee

8:35 PM, Aug 09, 2008

Bavasi set this franchise back five years with his deals. He got his start because of his family's baseball legacy, not from his "talent". He is to the Mariner's as what Howard Schultz was to the Sonics.

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