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July 4, 2008 3:16 PM

Detroit Tigers at Mariners: 07/04 game thread

Posted by Geoff Baker

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Still a 2-1 game, M's in the lead as we head to the bottom of the seventh. Erik Bedard did indeed bow out of the game after five innings and 99 pitches. Sean Green has done a fine job picking him up for two innings, escaping a two on, one out jam in the top of the seventh by getting Placido Polanco to hit into a fielder's choice out at third base and Edgar Renteria to ground out to shortstop.

A better-played game by the Mariners today, even though Kenny Rogers is still working to them in the seventh inning, his pitch count at a lowly 82. This is the kind of game where one mistake can kill a team. So far, the M's have not made any lethal ones.

There's a Milwaukee Brewers scout in attendance. He's been watching the entire homestand. What do the Brewers need? Some rotation and bullpen help. Particularly of the lefty variety. Remember, that team's GM, Doug Melvin, hails from Ontario, as does Milwaukee assistant GM Gord Ash. Does that mean anything when it comes to an Ontarian like Bedard? Might, or might not. Depends on the asking price. Jarrod Washburn might be a better fit. But I'd think that Bedard, Washburn, Arthur Rhodes and Ryan Rowland-Smith will all be on that team's radar.

2:48 p.m.: A good job of getting out of the fifth inning by Erik Bedard after he'd served up a leadoff double to Curtis Granderson. The speedy Tigers leadoff man didn't get any further as Bedard got Placido Polanco to pop up foul behind first base, where Jose Lopez made the catch. That might have been the inning's biggest at-bat, since it enabled Bedard to focus on Edgar Renteria without worrying about a flyball scoring the run. Renteria grounded out to the shortstop. Miguel Cabrera took the count full, but Bedard fanned him on a curveball, which he's relied on heavily in strikeout situations today. That's six strikeouts for Bedard, but a 17-pitch inning has run his daily count to 99. If we go by recent outings, Bedard might be done. Sean Green is warming up in the bullpen. Maybe they give Bedard a batter or two and see what happens? I don't know if I'd do that with Gary Sheffield due up second. Marcus Thames hit a grand slam off lefty Jarrod Washburn in Detroit back in May and he's due up first.

Bedard has a 2-1 lead and stands to win the game. But he'll need some innings from the bullpen.

2:22 p.m.: Seattle has a 2-1 lead after four innings as Raul Ibanez unloaded one off the glass facing of the Hit it Here cafe in right field off Kenny Rogers. The M's had an even bigger chance later on in that fourth as Adrian Beltre doubled off the left field wall with one out. Richie Sexson then drew a walk. But Kenji Johjima grounded into a 4-6-3 double-play.

Erik Bedard threw 27 more pitches in the fourth inning, walking the bases loaded but escaping by striking out Ryan Raburn. That's twice this game that Raburn has bailed Bedard out of a jam by going down swinging with runners on. Five LOB in two at-bats for Raburn. Bedard has held Detroit to a lone run, which is big in a 1-1 game. But he'll really be pressed to go much more than five innings today.

2:08 p.m.: Seattle just tied it 1-1 in the third inning on a Yuniesky Betancourt sacrifice fly to left. The inning began a lot more promising for the M's, with a Jamie Burke double and Willie Bloomquist single putting runners at the corners with none out. But Betancourt lined out, getting Burke home, and Ichiro hit into a rare 1-6-3 double-play.

Erik Bedard was a lot more economical in an 11-pitch third. That leaves his pitch count at 55. Remember, he's only been going 100 or fewer, so it's looking like another six-inning outing at best.

1:47 p.m.: Erik Bedard got roughed up in a 34-pitch second inning. He's at 44 on the day and fortunate to only be down 1-0, the run coming when the inning's first batter, Miguel Cabrera, homered to left field. Bedard gave up two more hits in the inning, but got out of further trouble by striking out the side -- two of those K's coming with the count full. His pitch-count trouble began with Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez and an inability to put him away and end the inning with the count 0-2. Rodriguez worked a nine-pitch at-bat, fouling off three pitches with the count full, and wound up with a single. Bedard would throw 18 additional pitches in the inning after the count went 0-2 on Pudge. An ace needs to finish.

Six up, six down against Tigers southpaw Kenny Rogers. Even that cameraman in Texas did better off The Gambler a few years ago than the M's have so far.

The lineups:

TIGERS (43-42)

28 Curtis Granderson CF
14 Placido Polanco 2B
8 Edgar Renteria SS
24 Miguel Cabrera 1B
33 Marcus Thames LF
3 Gary Sheffield DH
7 Ivan Rodriguez C
36 Clete Thomas RF
25 Ryan Raburn 3B

37 Kenny Rogers LHP

MARINERS (33-52)

51 Ichiro RF
4 Jose Lopez 2B
28 Raul Ibanez LF
29 Adrian Beltre 3B
44 Richie Sexson 1B
2 Kenji Johjima DH
15 Jamie Burke C
16 Willie Bloomquist CF
5 Yuniesky Betancourt SS

42 Erik Bedard LHP

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Posted by Nat

1:23 PM, Jul 04, 2008

What, does the ump have a man-crush on Rogers? This is gonna be a very long game if that's the way it is.

Posted by GripS

1:36 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Especially with all the balls Bedard is throwing.... Every at bat the count is full.... WTF

I'll be shocked if he goes even 5 innings at this rate.

To the Brewers scout: Move along.... nothing to see here.

Posted by Ziasudra

1:36 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Back when Clements was Rocket Roger, anything the catcher could reach was called a strike. It's a str system, ala the WWF. . . .(and NBA)

Posted by downonstrikes

1:52 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Finally, Vidro is out of the 4th spot. Nice.

Richie just went down on strikes. But he has company today. Why is he still in the lineup?

Time for some fireworks. Send half these guys packing with bottle rockets up their rears.

Posted by Scott

1:57 PM, Jul 04, 2008


Why is Sexon still on this team?

Maybe the front office needs to learn the fundamentals of a "sunk cost." Accounting 101.

Posted by headliner

2:14 PM, Jul 04, 2008

sexson and vidro
anchors of a sinking ship
let anchors away

Posted by GripS

2:15 PM, Jul 04, 2008

God damn you Bedard....we even it up and you walk 2 hitters back to back.... You suck

Posted by 11Records

2:49 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Hmm. Is Bedard done for the day? I'd assume with RRS pitching on Sunday, they might try to squeeze one more inning out of him. Cause the pen is gonna be GASSED. Hopefully Dickey can go 7+ tomorrow, but still...

Posted by GripS

2:57 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Nope.....once again Bedard is done. Reached his 'limit'.

Did you hear the announcers calling his stats for last year? Then he comes to Seattle and whines like a little b!tch.

Please o PLEASE trade him away. Make him pitch to Johjima. Why cater to this guy? He's not that good.

Posted by Bums

3:01 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Pathetic. This 100 pitch thing is weird. It would be fine if he were a sinker baller and relied on people hitting the ball to get outs, but he is not and just wears out the bullpen out.

Posted by 11Records

3:06 PM, Jul 04, 2008


I've been solidly behind Bedard all year. But, with the rotation battling injuries, it would have been nice to see him get 6 innings.

Now, they're probably gonna have to use Green, Rhodes, Jimenez and Morrow to get through the game. I'm not sure they can expect anything from Lowe and Corcoran today after both went 2 innings last night..


Posted by 11Records

3:09 PM, Jul 04, 2008

What's the over/under on the amount of time before Doug's comment is erased? I'd say it'll be gone by 3:15.

It is the first time I've seen someone drop a c-bomb on this forum though. So, way to go Doug. You should be really proud of your courage and creativity.

Posted by George

3:13 PM, Jul 04, 2008

If anyone who was involved in cutting loose Petland, McLaren and Bavasi now takes the position that this team is "fixed" with the core of the team as it has been for now four years, they'd better be right. Right as in by Labor Day this team is 5 games over .500.

Otherwise, they all need to be gone by Halloween.

Posted by GripS

3:17 PM, Jul 04, 2008

dougs comment gave me a little chuckle..... as tasteless as it was.

Must be the pre-teenager in my coming through.

Posted by downonstrikes

4:07 PM, Jul 04, 2008

Baby Bedard gets the win on the bullpen's work good work ethic. Why do some mama's boys always get the breaks even when they spit at her behind her back? I remember Ryan Franklin pitching his heart out night after night and never catching a break. He wanted to win and should have won, but lady luck didn't follow him.

Bedard is a millstone around the neck for this team. Why did Bavasi do this to us?

Posted by Ms Fan in Exile

4:58 PM, Jul 04, 2008

You noted that the Brewers Scouts were in attendance. What are your thoughts on the possibility of the Brew Crew offering us a similar package for Bedard that they are offering to Cleveland for Sabathia? I have heard that the Brewers are dangling Matt Laporta for Sabathia. Do you think we could possibly get Laporta and a pitcher or two for Bedard from them?

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