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Geoff Baker covers the Mariners for The Seattle Times. He provides daily coverage of the team throughout spring training, and during the season.

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July 22, 2008 8:29 PM

Boston Red Sox at Mariners: 07/22 game thread

Posted by Geoff Baker

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******* NOTE: Jeff Clement leaves game with thumb injury; Bedard has no serious injury *******

I told you earlier, they've pulled out all the stops tonight just in case Manny Ramirez wants to try something. You don't mess with Seattle's finest.

OK, we've got an update on Erik Bedard's MRI. The team is saying it confirmed the club's original diagnosis of a left shoulder impingement. What does that mean? A sore shoulder, says the club. So, no serious structural damage from what we're being told. Bedard will now continue with his regular rehabilitation program. Not sure whether that means throwing outdoors, or in a batting cage, or what. But I'm sure they'll tell us sooner or later.

Jeff Clement is out of the game. The nail on his thumb tore off when it was clipped by that ball. That's why you don't grab on to the protective screen behind home plate, or stick your hands out car windows...that sort of thing.

Boston just pushed three more runs across in the fifth to grab a 4-0 lead. An infield hit by Jacoby Ellsbury, and a single by Dustin Pedroia, that dropped just out of Raul Ibanez's reach, left runners at the corners with none out. Ellsbury scored on a sacrifice fly by J.D. Drew. Manny Ramirez then singled to left, and Mike Lowell doubled to score Pedroia. After an intentional walk, Jed Lowrie hit a sacrifice fly to left.

Might as well be 10-0 the way the M's, two-hit to this point, are looking.

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7:41 p.m.: Manny Ramirez, pictured above, behaved well in the first inning and did not jaywalk down the line to first base following a walk issued by R.A. Dickey. Right before that, J.D. Drew tagged a full count offering from Dickey and put the ball in the right field bleachers. So, it's a 1-0 lead for Boston.

The Red Sox loaded the bases with two out in the second inning, but Dickey got Drew to fly out to right. Jeff Clement hurt his thumb on his throwing hand that frame when he went to catch a foul pop up near the screen. Clement gripped the screen with his hands, but the ball -- out of play behind it -- wound up clipping the thumb on the way back down to the seats. He stayed in the game briefly, but has now been replaced by Kenji Johjima to start the third inning.

The lineups:

RED SOX (58-43)

46 Jacoby Ellsbury LF
15 Dustin Pedroia 2B
7 J.D. Drew RF
24 Manny Ramirez DH
25 Mike Lowell 3B
20 Kevin Youkillis 1B
12 Jed Lowrie SS
33 Jason Varitek C
10 Coco Crisp CF

18 Daisuke Matsuzaka RHP


MARINERS (38-61)

51 Ichiro RF
4 Jose Lopez 2B
28 Raul Ibanez LF
3 Jose Vidro DH
29 Adrian Beltre 3B
8 Jeremy Reed CF
9 Jeff Clement C
39 Bryan LaHair 1B
5 Yuniesky Betancourt SS

41 R.A. Dickey RHP

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Posted by scottM

7:16 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Hey, at least Manny knows how to take a walk, unlike most of the Mariners batters.

Hey GEOFF, why can't you find some grungy street musicians to film for your blog. Just make sure they can sing the Blues.

Posted by Lockwood

7:18 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Who is in Left Field tonight Geoff?

Posted by shane/olympia

7:26 PM, Jul 22, 2008

raul is the 3 spot

with the m's luck it will bad news on bedard!

Posted by Faceplant

7:30 PM, Jul 22, 2008

So Adam Jones is following up his .804 OPS June, with a .921 OPS July while playing good defense, George Sherrill is an all-star, Chris Tillman is performing VERY well in AA Bowie.

Erik Bedard is getting his second MRI of the season.

Thanks Bill.

Posted by shane/olympia

7:40 PM, Jul 22, 2008

yeah pretty much adam!

Posted by Scott

7:43 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Well, you have to wonder how all those guys who were defending this trade are feeling right now. You would think they would have all torn their clothes and put on sackcloth and ashes, admitting their stupidity, and yet, I think that many of them still believe it was a good idea, even though what has happened was predicted by many here and elsewhere.

Posted by M's Future

7:56 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Wearing Red Sox gear to an M's game is bad enough, but hanging K's for Matsuzaka's strikeouts at Safeco is unacceptable.

Posted by mookie

8:07 PM, Jul 22, 2008

yeah keep an eye on that miscreant Manny Ramirez. Jaywalk in our town!?!
I don't think so!!

everyone knows that jaywalking leads to the harder stuff.

Posted by Scott

8:09 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Vidro batting cleanup again... ughh. What difference does it make, I suppose. We're going to lose 100 games no matter where he bats in the order.

Posted by Dave from the coast

8:32 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Usually, when I'm online during a game, I miss all the big scoring plays, defensive webgems and offensive highlights. No such worry in tonight's game, tho...Boston zoomed out to a 1-0 lead early on, and the score remained the same halfway thru the game. I sure got a lot of e-mailing done, and I didn't miss a thing. Oh, wait...all of a sudden Boston scores 3 more runs...and now the sportscaster says the M's haven't scored in 22 innings. Which means, probably, that the home plate at Safeco Field is replaced less often than any other home plate, anywhere. Ho-hum, another M's game...

Posted by headliner

8:41 PM, Jul 22, 2008

there should be another baghead night........the players should wear them

Posted by Swung On And Belted

8:44 PM, Jul 22, 2008

This is just another example of pro athletes living in a different world than the rest of us. Where I work, if you're a man and you tear your thumb nail off and leave work for the day, you'd never live it down. Yes I had it happen to me, yes it's painful, and yes I didn't give it a second thought and kept working. I guess the big difference is that I don't have million dollar thumbs. This is why I think it was good what happened to Manny, although I do think the jaywalking enforcement here is ridiculous. If we have to deal with them, so should the the pro athletes.

Posted by diablo

8:45 PM, Jul 22, 2008

No one knows how well this kid will be. But give him a chance he is only 25 years old. I have a feeling he will be a good mlb player in the next few years. The mariners won't be good until the next 3 or 4 years.

Posted by Visiting Fan

8:47 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Mark Mulder was diagnosed with shoulder impingement in June 2006. That led to two surgeries on his rotator cuff and several failed comebacks, the last (which may have been the last one of his career) ocurring a couple of weeks ago.

An impingement can be more than just a sore shoulder, and it indeed can become a catastrophic injury, Mr. Baker. Neither you nor the Mariners should be dismissing it as non-serious until Bedard's shoulder has fully regain range of motion

Posted by diablo

8:53 PM, Jul 22, 2008

The rooster face better comp in the rookie league than the rookies pick before or after him and was the man on his team. He's going to be very good next year. GO M'S!

Posted by Football Season Yet?

8:59 PM, Jul 22, 2008

M's Future

I too saw those K's on the railing and thought....what the hell has it come to. They can't do that in our house. Oh wait....it's not our house when the fake "red sox nation" is in town.
They'll be back in their M's gear tomorrow hanging K's for Felix. Pathetic.
I h8 New England's fans.

Posted by Scott

9:06 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Will we score a run in this series? This is really sad to watch.

Posted by Oly Mike

9:14 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Have you ever got off an elevator into a hospital ward? The smell of sickness and death sometimes overwhelms you!!! That must be what it is like entering the Mariners clubhouse before each game. The pall of sickness floats above everything (back spasms, sprained fingers and sore shoulders highlighted by the hum and flashes of the MRI machine). Even the young players like Reed, Clement & Lahair immediately succumb to it. Especially, when they come to the plate to hit. They flail at a couple of pitches and watch the 3rd pitch for a called strike. If they do get a hit it is like a Vidro soft ground ball to second for a double-play. Does any one ever want to step up and become a Mariner hero and overcome this pall of death? Donít they know we really want them to succeed? Guess not all they have to do is follow the example of the veterans and slide their career into mediocrity and a hospital ward of sickness and death (no baseball glory)!!!!

Posted by Francis

9:22 PM, Jul 22, 2008

IMHO 2010 looks more like a pipe-dream goal everyday. The Mariners seem to be in a catch-22 dilemma at the moment.

Do we drive relentlessly toward unloading big and deadwood contracts while also acquiring ho-hum players to fill the roster?

OR do we try to weld together a somewhat-competitive team, with a few smart acquisitions, which MIGHT(?) attract a free-agent superstar during free agency in 2010?

Posted by Mint Husky

9:39 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Speaking as someone who tore his big toenail off this weekend - OUCH!

And to the guy who's ripping Clement for leaving the game, why don't we rip your thumbnail off and see how effective a catcher you can play. Maybe he didn't leave because he's a pansy like you'd have us believe, maybe he left because he'd be worthless as an MLB catcher without the use of his thumb.

Posted by Dave from the coast

9:40 PM, Jul 22, 2008

An 'impingement' is basically anything that interferes with the normal function of any portion of the body. In short, a separated shoulder, or just a minor ligament strain could both be considered impingements. I have numerous lower back impingements, for example. So when a player is referred to as having an 'impingement', well, who knows how serious it is. So it would probably be accurate to say the M's have an impingement as far as winning games goes. Hey, give 'em credit, tho, they finally got to Dice-K for a coupla runs...

Posted by Scanman

9:57 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Just imagine, a 1st baseman who can score all the way from 1st on a double. Will wonders never cease?

Posted by Jonathan

10:05 PM, Jul 22, 2008

How dare Boston put that dominant Papelbon in as their closer. He ought to be in the rotation so Mike Timlin can close games, huh Rusty John?

Posted by WeNeedChange

10:27 PM, Jul 22, 2008

My God, Vidro is almost like a smelly fart. He stinks and you're embarrassed when he comes out -in the lineup- with other people around. Yet, at least the fart goes away. Unlike Jose Vidro.

A shout out to all those 'I've been a Red Sox fan my whole life' which really translates to being a Sox fan since 2004. Seriously, did little Timmy in Seattle want an Ortiz jersey or Red Sox cap before 2004-No, he didn't. But then again, little Timmy has always been a fan.


Howard Lincoln and Chuckie Armstrong need to GO.

Posted by fishboy

11:12 PM, Jul 22, 2008

I had impingment in my left shoulder, rehab'd it for weeks and ended up having my shoulder scoped. I'm not a dr. but it's painful and shoulder movement like lifting my arm higher than my shoulder killed me. It wasn't life threatening but surgery was my only option.

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