Odd stat of the night:

Florida Marlins BAs:
.287
.269
.291
.245
.285
.274
.250
.222
.248

Mariners BAs:
.295
.293
.219
.227
.262
.212
.231
.160
.284

The Marlins are 5 games over .500 and 3.5 back from the Phillies. We all know where our Mariners are at. Take out WB's .160 and put in WBal.'s .196 and both teams are still posting starting rostes with all 9 players .300. Take out their DH and put in the pitcher and you get a regular 8 all under .300 yet we are so far off their record it isn't funny anymore.

Anyone care to venture a guess why?

The kid from North Carolina - Andrew Miller - has the familiar look of Cy Young, might we expect another shutout down by two already.

Lets have some more repercussions - Fire Johnny Mac, DFA Sexson and Vidro - let have some more sacrifices.

Pelekoudas - AB is a Jonah, be sure and move him.

Hear that crowd cheer, you'd think Sexson had hit a home run.

LOL Faceplant, is there a troll impersonating you again?

When I finish my uncontrollable laughter, I'll post a 2 sentence definition of baserunning for you. I really shouldn't have to on a baseball blog, but there we have it.

Resin, it's a great day. What's the scuttlebutt on the troll, trollop, racist, and reprobate website? (Aka the PI Forum, calm down USSM lickspittles)

It's interesting that people, such as Niehaus, keep saying Bavasi will certainly land no his feet, will have another job in baseball soon. What part of, he was a lousy GM and anybody who hires him would be an idiot do they not get. I realize they want to say good things about him but it only makes anyone who says those things look as much an idiot as anyone who would hire Bavasi.
It's also interesting that Kruger tonight intimated that Bedard is sparing himself by staying under or at 100 innings to prolong his career. I'm surprised anyone would dare say that but if it's true, then Bedard's as big a jerk as people have said. And I wonder if he's holding his fast ball speed down to also save his arm.
So now, about tonight's game, if you're going to move Ichiro to right, why is the first new centerfielder Bloomquist, of all people? And is this the end of the Balentien experiment? Where will he play now? And so forth and so on.

see what happens when willie starts/ gets our first hit , hate on that haters

Just got done watching Georgia win again in the CWS. I gotta tell you, Josh Fields is a beast. Watching him pitch in the first two games makes me think it wasn't that big of a mistake to draft a closer with a first-round pick. Hershiser couldn't stop going on about the way he pitches including hoping that Georgia would come back from its 3-2 deficit in the seventh just so they could see him pitch in the ninth again.

He's got this absolutely wicked 12-6 curve with a 97 mph fastball. Simply impressive stuff. It kind of makes me want to root against the Bulldogs so his season can end and he can join the team ... oh well.

Geoff-Any word yet from the ownership about where he will go when he joins the team?

The irony here, sure to be lost on the Ms brass, is that the latest team that they are about to be swept by, which is also thick in the hunt in NL East, lacks veteran grit, guys who have been through the wars, ‘intangibles’, etc. In other words all the attributes they think correlate so highly with winning. They’re dirt-cheap and they may also become viable as a business model, assuming they get the new venue they’re after. It’s right there in front of them, but does anybody think they’ll notice?

I sure don’t. “Antonetti Now”? More like ‘Gillick in ’09’.

Is it just me....or does Pelekoudas look like "McLovin" at 45?

A walk to the Jonah, these NL clubs have not scouted me Jonah.

I agree Esteban ... I like the idea of Gillick coming back. He has done a great job putting together the Phillies this year. I thought he didn't do that bad of a job back in his Seattle days. I mean, the team kind of went down hill after the 2001 season, but still won 90+ games while he was there.

By the way, I like Ichiro and I don't. He's a good contact hitter (until this year) and a good defensive player, but I don't think he should be out of the question for a trade. We got a ton in talent for trading Griffey and Randy Johnson back in the day. Plus, sometimes wrapping a team around one guy can backfire. Remember a guy that used to play for the Seattle Football Team named Alexander? Save that money and keep Hutchinson and they could have been a "dynasty" worthy franchise. Just my two cents ....

Nothings changing until someone who actually catches, throws or hits a ball is removed from the picture. And shouldn't the guys who just fired a guy they hired be gone too? What gives?

Ichiro's unhappy or uncomfortable in CF how rich is that? Talk about the inmates running the asylum. As ichiro would say, how cute.

"A rope hit to centerfield..." Dave Sims on Richie Sexson's bloop single. That open stance has sure got the big K pointing out the singles, or is this a selective perception?

With Sexson's new batting stance(open) he is now nothing more than a singles hitter(when he hits)

Woohoo now all we have to do is load em up again with no one out so we can try and tie the game!!! Sexson is a stud, lets trade him now for a ball girl who works in a bikini.

bitCHIRO

Wow, Ichiro actually hustled for a ball hit to the outfield.

Ichiro, do you like it better with those fans reaching over the rail trying to get the ball from ya? Or are you just hoping to bump heads with one of them?

Ichiro is all that is wrong with baseball. First hustle we have seen from him in his whole FUCKING career. get out of here and back to japan

ChicoV - Can I judge that ball girl talent?

Marlins entire squad? 22 million.
Sexsons pay this year? 14 million.
Wanting Armstrong and Lincoln gone? Priceless.

Mac - lets have one of your controlled tirades of profanity! Kick some dirt on his feet, please.

The best part of watching Mariners game lately is the commercial watching the birds fly on handgliders!

That was a terrible call. Silva was pitching very well up to this point. I can't believe it when it rains it pours.

Like the fire displayed by silva on the play at 1st.

Yea, those flightless birds sure look like that get a kick out of flying, I love that little penguin spreading his wings - still got the instinct even if he doesn't have the equipment.

What the heck is the idea here? A bad call, maybe, but Silva, who happened to be pitching pretty good tonight, accomplished NOTHING by getting thrown out of the game. McLaren had already had a healthy confrontation with an ump, but wasn't thrown out. Then Silva goes and gets himself tossed. An utterly STUPID move. How the heck is THIS supposed to improve team morale? So in his own way, Silva is just as bad as Bedard, the automatic-100-pitch underwhelmer. Sheesh. This team must have a death wish.

hey lincecum dick riders, hows the golden boy doing now eh? EAT IT DAWGS

It seems to fit in with how the Mariners have been doing lately, that they get a quality start out of a pitcher, only to get him called out for arguing a terribly call by the umpires. He shouldn't have been called out, if for no other reason than to make up for the miserable call at first. An instant replay would have come in handy.

I don't think that was smart by Silva. Throw your hands up, express your disgust with the call with your body language, but shut your mouth. As soon as he starts talking, he gets tossed. Now we have to use our bullpen for about four innings or more (hopefully).

Actually, I was kind of hoping for Sexson to get tossed so we would have to put Reed at first and Balentin out to centerfield. Oh well ...

Can anyone in the area bring a sign to the next game that says "Hey Blowers: Screw the Rally Fries, can I just get a Rally???

Hey Doug,

Do you need some rally fries to go with that glass of shut the hell up.

OC Jeff wrote: “I agree Esteban ... I like the idea of Gillick coming back.”

To tell the truth, I was being cynical. I’d much prefer Antonetti, but I just don’t see it happening.

I think Gillick, who owns a house here and will be leaving as Phillies GM at the end of the year, will be back next year, especially as it was explicitly stated that the search would take a long time (presumably into the off-season). Reading in between the lines, I think this indicates: a) that the current management will be choosing the next GM, and b) that being the case, who better than Gillick, who won some games here and who is notorious for building with FAs, something that is consistent with modern Ms team-building history. In short, without knowing the specifics or the relationships of the individuals involved, I assume that Gillick is somebody that they would be comfortable with.

Howard and Chuck are obviously not baseball savvy, and I truly think they’d be out of their element dealing with somebody like Chris Antonetti or Kim Ng. In short, nothing really changes without further changes (attempt at Ichiro-like insight).

Hey, old Nick...I love that commercial with the Penguin, too. He actually flaps his wings. We need commercials like that during games...(almost) makes watching the M's bearable.

It all started some many years ago when the M's made a deal.... but now its the devil's due...

Bill was a part of that deal...

Thanks for the explanation of the Johjima extension, Geoff. It's interesting that Yamauchi, Lincoln, and Armstrong did the deal without much involvement by Bavasi. Would this be considered meddling? What is the job description of a GM then?

Sorry to see Silva tossed. :(

Yea Dave, bring back the Rainer hunts.

Whether or not Silva did a dumb thing, I like the passion. Bedard wouldn't do that. Why, cause he's smarter? No, because (1) he really wouldn't care, and (2) he'd be too tired to complain.

Not sure I agree with you Geoff. The replays made it look like Silva threw his hands up three times, then turned and said the magic words before getting tossed. Not justifying your logic that the Umps should have more thick skin, but Silva has to use good judgement there and stay under control. I don't think many umps in baseball would have let him stay in the game after that. Again, just my two cents....

It is totally inexcusable to throw players out in the heat of a situation, particularly when the umpire knows it was a controversial call. To completely change the course of a game by throwing a pitcher out just based on words is far below bush league. Welke would know the situation, know the Mariners are struggling, and to deliberately throw their game into chaos just because somebody said something he didn't like and to inject himself into the game is all but crooked. And on top of it all, the fact that the runner at second base interfered and got away with it almost makes this look like a conspiracy against the Mariners. I know it isn't, but had this been the seventh game of the World Series, there would have been an outcry across the country. Those blaming Silva in the heat of the situation, are off base. You can't expect him to hold back his emotions under the circumstances the team is in. This just seems like piling on by the umpires.

Clement was scratched from the Rainiers' game tonight...

So the Umps are to blame? From what I could see, if Silva had kept his MOUTH SHUT, he'd still be in the game. And (hopefully) pitching effectively. What's all this 'baghead' stuff I'm hearing about? Think I'll go out to the kitchen and get a bag and wear it while I watch this game.

Remember that call Niehaus made during the 1995 season, something along the lines of "IT JUST CONTINUES..." Well, the same phrase could be used for this season, but it would mean something totally different...the word 'misery' comes to mind...

Dave Valle - telling us just how good the move of Ichiro to right field will make the team better - putting WFB in the lineup more often - talk about diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain. Blowers is bad, but Valle....

MY GAWD HOW LONG MUST WE BEAR THIS ABOMINATION CALLED A BASEBALL TEAM!!!!!

3 times tonight we've had men at 3rd with less than 2 outs and we score 1 freakin run. I tried turning off the TV and just listening to it on the radio but bad baseball is terrible on the ears too!!!!

Get earplugs for that bag.

Yeah, the umps are to blame in this case. First, Welke blows the call, so in that he's to blame, and then to compound it by throwing out a player who is caught up in the passion of the moment, means the ump can't control his own emotions. He knows damn well the situation, and he knows that throwing a pitcher who is going well out of a game is more like throwing out a quarterback or goalie than some other player. He has to have some constraint no matter what Silva might have said. If you can't get that, that's your problem, not ours.

While I believe people commonly misjudge Willie Bloomquist by solely studying his hitting statistics, WFB should never be a starter except in the case of emergency. His talent is that of a jack of all trades, but he is no Mark McLemore who could play everyday as a tenth man. Bloomie should be used every day but only as a pinch runner or late inning defensive replacement. Mac has no clue how to use his bench.

Dick smoked that one. I was kind of hoping to see his average creep up above that lofty .225 mark. I guess it wasn't meant to be. I think it would be great for this team to get Pat G. back as GM. With the money that is out there for this club I think he could put a great team together and possibly bring in a higher profile manager back to the Safe.

I'd rather watch lesbians kiss! Wait........... I'd probably say that if they were winning too.

Chuck,

The anthropologists explain ritual sacrifice is necessary when the rain does not come or some other natural disaster reveals that nature is out of balance with the needs of the people. So in the case of a baseball team, when the bleeding doesn't stop and the losing continues to mount, there is need for another sacrifice.

Give me McLaren!

Konishi says he never asked Ichiro about card playing and that the conclusion in the article was only Konishi's opinion."

Facey- I've heard many that stand by Konishi's interpretation. You can choose to believe St. Ichiro is conveniently misinterpreted. Should I bring up how the Mariners put a temp. ban on the Japanese media after they had reported an adulterous affair between Suzuki and a young Japanese woman? Or that St. Ichiro his holiness settled for $12.5 million for silencing another woman about an affair? Funny how USSM Derek Zumsteg attacks Rick Sutcliffe for being sexist , yet idolizes Ichiro Suzuki the adulterer.

Also back to baseball. Stealing bases and base running are two different skills. In real life baseball, base running
is the ability to accurately read batted ball sin play and recognizing when to advance and when to hold at a base. Good base runners maximize the ability for your offense to score runs. Bad base runners don't.

Getting thrown out at third by a mile is bad base running. Completely ignoring the third base coach and getting stranded between bases is a common mental mistake that Ichiro is guilty of.

Stealing bases is a different skill which he is quite talented at.

St Ichiro

Keep asking the tough questions Geoff.

It is now time for Lincoln and Armstrong to do the right thing and step aside. I love how they stand by the side and act as if they are not to blame. If Bavasi is to blame for his deals why not them? Why are they not accountable for Kenji?

Lincoln and Armstrong must go.

We could promise Pat Gillick a sweetheart deal, if he would agree to take some of our deadwood - e.g. Sexson, Vodro, etc, - even Beltre, Ibanez, Johjima, etc. for some of the Phillies prospects.

Where is Novice in support of his man?

Lucifer,

I think Mac is just starting Bloomquist for today's game. It's not a permanant move. I think Reed would be better in CF. Bloomquist is better in the infield. I can see Bloomy spelling Beltre, Betancourt or Lopez a game now and then.

This is just an experiment, but I'd like to see Bloomquist leadoff in games he starts and have Ichiro bat 2nd. I'd be willing to see how that works. Bloomquist is not a power hitter, but he can take pitches.

I hope Mac realizes that Ibanez' fielding days are over and takes him out of the lineup. There's no doubt that Ibanez tears up RH pitching but can't hit LH at all. That would not make Raul plausible as an everyday DH. He might be able to play 1B, but Mac's got to find a replacement for him in LF.

The ump was 100% right on tossing Silva. Sorry, "in the heat of the moment" is a BS excuse. Grow up, Carlos, and leave the F-bombs at home.

Baghead Nation issues the following statement;

Howie and Chuckie: Regarding the next Mariner GM: You have, by the skin of your teeth, earned a chance at redemption, a chance to avoid the wrath of Baghead Nation. Choose wisely. We're watching you.

Reed was the center fielder before he was injured, I can see no reason for Bloomquist in the line up today or any day for that matter. He is simple a utility player, but I agree that Raul needs to move to 1B /DH. He creates a hole in left the size of Lake Washington. Mac makes no sense by continuing to keep Raul in left. Of course, I have said all this earlier.

I wouldn't want to see Willie batting anywhere in the top of the lineup, he can't really hit breaking pitches at all, even after this being his 10th pro year.

That's just my opinion.

Anyone hear that Clement has just been called up? He's not in the lineup again in Tacoma.

I'm hoping they start dumping the dead weight soon.

Back on the blog after a long hiatus. I needed to get away from this team for awhile, but now I'm back. I'm also very happy to see Bavasi gone.

I was very amused when he admitted that letting Guillen go was a mistake. I could have told him that. Even before last season ended and the possiblility of Adam Jones taking his spot was still alive, I could have told him that losing Guillen would be a mistake. But who am I? Obviously I'm just another one of those know-nothing fans that watches this team get its face bashed in by loser teams every night.

Anyway, I'm quite intrigued that Lincoln and Armstrong said that nothing was off-limits. Personally, I don't wanna see them all go. Here's my list:


Betancourt-- Tremendous potential, great shortstop, and lots of energy.

Ichiro-- The face of this franchise, outstanding defender, and can hit .330 with his eyes closed.

Felix-- I don't even need to explain, do I?

Beltre-- Best defensive 3rd baseman in the league, and a solid #2 or #5 hitter.

As for everyone else, I'll pay for the cabs to take them to the airport!!


P.S.-- scottM, I'm still here =)

Beltre is no number 2 or 5 hitter, at best sixth or seventh. Beltre is a Jonah - as the saberboys put it he is unlucky and in sea terms he brings bad luck to the ship.

Move Beltre, it seems the NL teams have no scouting on him because they don't use that low away breaking ball very much which he will chase every time and can't hit.

Beltre = Jonah

This team was not a Jose Guillen away from competing against the Angels.

Pitching, hitting, and the field manager, has killed us all year.

So Howie and Chuckie and the absent owner instigated the Joh extension. That's pretty much what everyone had suspected.

They expect him to "return to his historic numbers".
Well we know where the phllosphy of expecting vets to always do what they've always done came from. Also good to see the continued favoritism for Japanese players.

As for Gillic, I pass. He'll strip the farm system bare trading for some more grizzled vets.He might be better at it than BB, but look at the club we're playing. Look at the Rays. You don't need a bunch of over the hill players to compete.

Agreed Resin, the only motive for using the Guillen spin - which is just a numbskull notion of player motivational mania - that Bavasi dredged up to try and save his ass. He trotted it out today, so as to try and save some face.

Looser nonsense.

Enough!!!

This is called overkill. I am thrilled to see Bavasi leave town but let him leave without kicking the car on the way out of town. Wish the guy the best of luck and let him go away quietly.
He didn't hurt your children, he didn't place naked pics of you on the internet. Let him go.

As for the Silva incident Welke is truly one of the WORST umpires in baseball. He has a quick temper, and then will engadge and angry player rather than walking away. He is a nasty reminder of umpires who were in the game 15 years ago. They thought they were above the game. This is a nasty combination to say the least. Add into that his dancing strike zone that can float from pitch to pitch and he is a real gem.

Gotta Love these Guys?

Jonah, I tell ya! Where are all those line drives? A paper mache hitter, nothing solid about him at the plate. Beltre goes down.

So Frank Burns thinks a word, any word, is a reason for an umpire to potentially give the game to the other team. It's never been acceptable for umpires to have the power to throw people out of games for anything other than actions. Throwing people out of games for what they say is what is BS. Nowadays, umpires are losing control of games and their own emotions more and more, than ever before. And by the way, was Frank Burns on the field and heard what Silva said? How does he know the "f-bomb" was used. How does anyone know the vagaries of umpire minds and what criteria they use to throw players out? There have been umpires who stated that if certain players ever even spoke to them on the field they would throw them out. It must be wonderful to be so smug, Worms.

A pitching change, just to face Richie. They can't have scouted this team. Big K show 'em your stuff. We need another sacrifice and I think its got your name on it.

Richie with that new open stance for a week now, hasn't had a extra base hit since May 26 - Big K

Oh, and worms, I meant to say, so sanctimonious, and apparently, so perfect.

beltre and sexson were the downfall of this franchise. A proud and great team is brought to its knees by that 150 million mistake.

Can't hit that bad boy, hey Jorge?

dh, I hear ye!

Uggl - sounds like he missed that one!

Buster Olney on ESPN has now brought Brian Cashman's name up twice as a possible replacement here. He has also said that most general managers would view this as a "dream job". Which begs the question, if that is in fact this dream job then why is the best we could find Bill Bavasi.

When the Marlins sweep these guys, can Larry Stone come back on Wednesday and talk about Repercussions - we need another sacrifice!

Jason at prospectinsider.com has posted on his blog that Jeff Clement got a phone before the game today was pulled from the game and is expected to brought up tomorrow. The big question is who is gone? Vidro, Sexson, or someone else?

Firing bavasi was a good thing BUT the 'curse of the rally fries' will NOT be removed until big-mouth blowers AND his "rally" fries are permanently fired.

As long as blowers and the "rally fries" exist, the Mariners will continue on the 110+ loss pace for the season

The Mariners have a choice: big mouth blowers and his "rally" fries (which help the OTHER team rally) *OR* Mariners wins - The Mariners can't have blowers and his french fries and wins too. Apparently the Mariners prefer to keep blowers and his french fries and continue to lose.

The Mariners will have the worst record in baseball EVER if blowers and his "rally" fries stay around to the end of the season.

Because at the end of the day, it's not about us incentivizing them.

Classic. I guess all those bonus clauses are just so much nothing, and the prospect of big paydays on the next contract is meaningless. Lincoln is the problem. Armstrong is a big symptom , and they both need to go. Lincoln said today that he's responsible to the ownership for this team. he's built a culture of getting along instead of getting ahead. There will be no chage as long as he's in charge. And as he said himself, "change is in order".

Geoff, thanks for getting after them behind the scenes, but a little daylight on their lack of response wouldn't hurt. More accountablity is in order.

Balentien is down, Clement is up. I didn't need to use secret connections or a cigarette smoking man.

post game news from KOMO - Balentien sent down. Clement is up. So that says the new OF is Bloomquist, Reed and Ibanez?

The M's have sent Balentien down and called up Clement; that just came over the post-game radio show. Too little, too late; it's more than one person; it's the fates, it's something otherworldly and almost unbelievable, how a bad team has managed to become even worstethis year and every day they seem to sink lower than the day before. No energy, no excitement, and obviously there's no home-field advantage at Safeco Field. Still over 90 games to go in this season. Can this year's M's be in the running for Most Miserable Team Ever? Maybe Seattle should be re-named Mudville.

Yah! this stadium is big. The match beginning in 7.20 p.m. and closing in 9.05 p.m. Nice photos and you are taking in your camera or other. I want to know who is win in this match. I am very happy to see all the photos in that. In that I see the boundary of the stadium.
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