Not a big surprise the way he's been (not) hitting. with Jojima hitting better and Vidro returning, the team doesn't need a DH as much at the moment and presumably Reed can fill in just as well if Vidro doesn't do the job. Besides, it's time for the M's to figure out if Reed has any value to them or anyone else.

I never thought I'd see the day that jeremy Reed would take Clement's "spot" on the M's 25-roster.

Jeff, go get your hitting back on, and we'll see you back here in June

We better see more ABs from Reed than Vidro. The last thing this team needs is to vest his '09 option.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Bavasi continues to spew garbage to undermine the team. Let me explain to you, Bill, why he isn't getting at-bats. It has nothing to do with Vidro! Clement shouldn't be up here DHing! He should be catching.

However, since you managed to sign a horrendous hitting catcher to a 3-yr $24 million extension, you have to play him and allow Clement to wallow in the minors.

And we got what in trade for Norton ?? Will somebody please take the Ouija Board away from Buzz Lightyear.

Oh, yay! Vidro back to DH. That's just what this team needs.

God this team is completely, COMPLETELY, clueless.

Moving Clement back to AAA - Good move

Bringing up Reed - Good move

Putting Vidro back in as our starting DH - SUCH AN INEXPLICABLY STUPID MOVE IT NEGATES ALMOST ALL OF THE GOOD THAT COULD COME FROM THE OTHER MOVES

We are so amazingly incompetent, it's laughable really.

Clement didn't get it done. .167 in 48 ABs. Well thats well and good. Get the kid back to hitting and back to being comfortable at the plate. Good logic to making the move.

Now. Putting Vidro back at DH is the exact opposite logic in reverse they used as the excuse to demote Clement. In over 100 ABs Vidro is Medoza-line bad and doesn't produce runs, has no power and can't play defense.

If Reed is being brought up after scorching the PCL for 2 months why wouldn't they want to keep his at bats consistant? Reed is a better hitter than Vidro and runs well along with playing plus defense. Why would Vidro be playing again?

I like Clement going down but don't like the options at DH.

Reed has never hit ML pitching well and Vidro is Vidro. I really wish we'd just take the best bat we can at DH.

Reed needs to be playing the outfield most day. He can PH a few days a week, but he should be playing in the field for either Ibanez or Balentien most of the time. Against tough right-handers Balentien should sit and Reed should play. Other days you should sit Vidro and put Reed in left field while Ibanez DH's.

I think the obvious mistake they're about to make is the one we've all seen before...letting a potentially useful piece waste away on the bench while less-capable players use up the benched player's opportunities on the field.

Good, Jeff couldnt get it done and reed is mashing down in tacoma! Give jeff a full season in AAA to prove himself and learn how to hit and we can let a guy who has got it done come up and who can defend too!

The most aggravating thing about this move is that we sacrificed one year of service time by calling Clement up when we did, rather than waiting one more week. I hope that year was worth the 48 at-bats we got over the past couple of weeks.
Every move this team makes is out of desperation... which just leads to stupidity.

Hmmm....wouldn't it have made better sense to bring up Reed BEFORE the game and let him play LF and get a few ABs since Raul was DHing?

To Vidro's credit, historically he has done five things this team desperately needs: he gets hits, he hits consistently (no 0-for-20 streaks like Beltre and Yuni), he moves runners, he works the count, and he makes contact. It's not Vidro's fault this team needs its DH to have that skill set rather than power--or that Clement lost his mojo somewhere on I-5.

I could be wrong but I believe that be sending Clement back down it will negate the service time issue.

Bavasi and McLaren could have improved the ballclub immediately by moving Raul to DH and Reed to LF. Reed's bat can't be worse than Vidro's. His defense is much better than Raul's defense. So, naturally, Raul stays in LF and Vidro gets to DH. Genius...

More veteran entitlement at work. Ibanez and Vidro keep their regular jobs. Again.

And we wonder why this team is ten games under.

And another thing - When Clement was called up, the M's believed Vidro was bad enough that he needed to sit. What, exactly, has he done since then to improve his standing?

Vidro's playing time was cut before his back acted up - now it seems Bavasi is reinventing history. Such bull.

Do McLaren and Bavasi really think the team is best off with Vidro's bat and Raul's glove in the lineup? Instead of Reed, who will likely hit more than Vidro and play better D than Raul? Honestly?

I honestly don't see why this organization deserves an ounce of support from its fanbase. This is ridiculous.

Bavidiot simply needs to go.......moving Vidro back to DH and calling up Reed to sit is simply inexplicable.

Reed needs to come up and replace Ibanez in LF, with Raul moving to DH....improves the M's defense, pitching and offense.

Theres no debating that Clement needs more ABs, but we've already wasted service time for him, and its not like we are going to compete this year (or compete as long as Bavidiot is running this franchise)....so why not let him struggle at the ML level getting ABs and experience? He's already proven he can hit and hit well at Tacoma.

We have two roster spots being taken up by guys as useless as teets on a man in vidro and Cairo.

Preaching to the choir, capo. Preaching to the choir...

Would be nice to hear some of the team veterans repeat Clement's quotes: "You've got to have results here, and I didn't."

Hey,

The service time issue will be taken care of by this move. All they need to do is keep Clement down in Tacoma for a week.

Ibanez has been quite terrible in LF, and should DH while Reed plays left. LF is extremely important at Safeco. It's expansive out there.

While they are playing lipservice to returning Vidro into the fulltime DH role, I'm hoping that McLaren has the sense to not do so. Except against lefties, of course.

Another thing to note - if Sexson keeps hitting .190, we might see Raul, Jeremy and Vidro all in the lineup, and Richie's ass on the bench once in a while.

I'm not talking about options, options is no big deal, and is something completely different than service time.......this was a major point when Clement was called up earlier, as it started his service time in the majors...instead of waiting a week to make it a non-issue....now the full season counts towards Clements service time and FA.

Moving on, there is simply no rhyme or reason to the way this team is being run....its actually being run by the FO the same way the team is playing....in a panic.

I believe we have to clear a roster spot for Reed.....which means someone gets cut from the 25 man roster.....and since we can be sure it won't be Cairo or Vidro, its going from bad to worse.

Also, how does Reed, Ibanez, and Vidro/Cairo improve the lineup over having Sexson in there? The defense is better in LF, but worse at 1B....and quite honestly the offense is a wash.

We have a team full of one dimensional players....guys with poor pitch selection who have no power and clog the base paths......great formula for winning.

Beyond all the crap on the field, we just extended a catcher for big money over 3 yrs.....at an age where catchers typically go into steep decline, we're going to let Vidro's option vest, and I'm sure we will either throw stupid money at Griffey or overpay for a marginal FA 1B (We overpay for everything).

What do they say about psychopathic behavior? Is it doing the same thing over and over and getting one result while expecting an other? I wish my daddy was a baseball gm, then maybe I could ruin a franchise

Clement's history reminds one of A Rod who was up and down that first year--hit about .360 in TAcoma and around .240 in the show then, the next year, hit .330 or better for Seattle!! Problem is whether this managment will have the judgement to aid Clement's development. He should be catching and, if Reed comes up, he should be playing. Vidro is going to be gone, as is this season, so why not build for next year? Wouldn't hurt to dump Sexson, eat his salary and bring up LaHair or Limonta with Vidro as the safety valve at first base.

Props to you Clement. You're more of a man than some the starters on this team

You guys are so funny- Clement is still a year away at least. I think Felix could have used another year in Triple A before they forced him up here. He should stay now, but if they had given him another year he would be light years ahead of where he is now. I expect Wladimir to find his rightful place in Tacoma soon as well.

Re: Capo's comment about the 25 man...

Clement -> Tacoma opend the spot for Reed on the 25-man roster. Reed was already on the 40 man, so nobody needed to be placed on waivers to make room for him.

It is so obvious that it makes more sense to put Reed in LF (or RF with Wlad in LF) and Ibanez at DH. You vastly improve your outfield defense plus you switch Reed's offense with Vidro's which is not a significant downgrade (if it is even a downgrade at all, which it might not be).

This orginization is a bunch of buffoons.

reed in lf, ibanez at first base if sexson doesn't start hitting or dh if sexson starts to hit. reed can play rf if wlad keeps struggling.

On the Clement service time issue.

As long as he spends 20 days in the minors, they get that extra year still. He has to spend a certain number of days in the majors, by sending him back to the minors he will not achieve those days. As long as he spends 20 days in AAA, they get the extra year.

It doesn't matter, my gut says Clement will stupidly be dealt, after all the Mariners have their catcher.

I know I'm repeating everyone else, but Bavasi is a big idiot. What did he expect. Does he think that as soon as he brings a player up from the minors that they're going to immediately respond. All players are in that huge learning curve when they come up. Clement still needs to learn to hit ML pitchers. The only way to do that is to be up here.

The type of GM that expects instaneous and miraculous results is the type that makes impulsive, non thought out decisions a.k.a the Bedard trade. This type of GM doesn't know how to think. They only react. This type of GM is dangerous because they don't know their ass from their elbow.

Why is Bavasi still here?? I can't believe how much he's hurting this team.

Bad organizations fixate on what a player cant do, rather than on what he can.

Clement, in his last four games: 2 doubles, a triple, 2 RBI. Looked like he'd turned a corner.

Two years ago, the Baltimore Orioles installed 'cant miss' prospect Nick Markakis in RF to start the season. He struggled with sub-200 for almost 3 months. Wound up hitting .296 .

Clement won't figure out how to lay off of inside curve balls in the dirt playing in Tacoma against pitchers who can't throw them.

Bad organizations fixate on what a player is doing wrong, rather than let them play and learn. Bad organizations also tend to blame their 'unperforming' youth and go with 'proven' veterans, like the .207 hitting Jose Vidro, the .203 hitting Richie Sexon, and the even more ridiculous Miguel Cairo.

Jeff,

You have said that Clement is the first baseman of the future. How come we have not seen play any in a game yet?

Clement was clearly in over his head, another season or two in AAA will do the trick. He had one real good week in AAA that skewed his stats, he didnt even have 1 good game in MLB. Not ready and might not ever be.

Bring up Reed, and stick his glove on the bench so no-hit Vidro can DH, and no-catch Ibanez can play Left.

I never thought I would root for the Ms to lose, but the absolute worse thing that could happen is for the Ms to win enough to save Bavasi's job.

Chris Antonetti in '08

"..He had one real good week in AAA that skewed his stats,,,"

Um, dougie boy, check your facts. One good week at Tacoma? Dude, Clement has been raking in AAA ALL SEASON LONG. You're way off-base with that statement.

Clement will be back in Seattle as soon as he regains the successful approach he had at the plate down there, and then can take another crack at the boys in the Big Show.

My money says he comes up for good during the All-Star break, at the very latest, unless Griffey somehow winds up back in Seattle. That would be a mistake that would retard Clement's development severely. The kid needs to get his head together again, and then play consistently in Seattle, not Tacoma.

It's the right move to send him back down now, though.

"They had a runner on second in the seventh, but Richie Sexson struck out on three pitches."

Yep.

"Another thing to note - if Sexson keeps hitting .190, we might see Raul, Jeremy and Vidro all in the lineup, and Richie's ass on the bench once in a while."

A lot of people have a good idea.

byebye

This can be a great move only if it means that it results in Jamie Burke catching more games and using Kenji as the DH more often.

If it simply means letting Joh continue to fail to get the most out of our starters and letting Vidro continue to underproduce as the DH, then they've done nothing more than go back to the strategies from Opening Day.

No, Joh wouldn't like being DH a couple of times a week, but didn't Mac say something about it being time to stop trying to be people's pal and put the players on the field that will best help the team win?
Catching Jamie gives the M's the best chance to win because he brings out the best in our starters, and getting the best out of our starters is numero uno in getting the team a win.

So, we'll see. Is there any truly creative thinking in Mac's mind, or is it just haphazard guesswork until something clicks.

BTW, hitting Beltre #2 is idiotic. It didn't work before and it's not going to work again. He's not going to change as a hitter, nor should he have to. And, he's not a #2 hitter!