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April 15, 2008 3:15 PM

Bedard placed on DL

Posted by Larry Stone

Erik Bedard was just placed on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to April 9, the day after he last pitched in Tampa. That's doesn't necessarily indicate a major setback for Bedard. He is eligible to come off on April 24 -- a week from Thursday. Considering that R.A. Dickey has already been slotted into Bedard's next scheduled start in Anaheim, this will give him a chance to make sure the hip is completely healthy, and the M's will have a chance to fortify the bullpen with another pitcher.

I wouldn't be surprised if Brandon Morrow is called up. Arthur Rhodes, who was in West Tennessee, told us yesterday that Morrow is throwing very well. He said that Morrow had a health setback involving his biceps, but after resting it a couple of days, he came back strong.

I talked to Bedard earlier today (see previous blog entry) and he says he's feeling better each day. But this remains a very worrisome issue for the Mariners, obviously.

The Mariners said the corresponding move (Bedard's roster replacement) won't come until tomorrow.

Here's a quote from John McLaren from the press release:

"We have said consistently that we're not going to rush Erik back. At this point, we thought it made the most sense to go ahead and place him on the DL. It should not change when he's available to make his next start, and gives us the ability to add another player in the meantime."

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Posted by Ben

3:29 PM, Apr 15, 2008

This is a repost - since i posted it a minute before this bedard DL announcement:

So say RA Dickey excels with a start - maybe is even somewhat dominant as a starter - what do we do about our rotation? Would it possibly push Washburn or Batista to the pen in a long relief role?

Batista has not looked too fantastic thus far (yes it's early - i suppose that is now the catch phrase of every post). He did similar things last year - high WHIP - letting people on, but last year he got out of those jams more often than not. This year those runs seem to be coming in more.

Anyway, if Dickey does well - would he get consideration as a 5th starter?

Posted by Adam

3:34 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Ben - I doubt it, just because the Mariners are so into roles and veteranness. And although I do say that with a great deal of "snark," I think it's really how they think. So unless Batista or Washburn really bomb, I don't think Dickey has a shot at the 5 spot.

Which is fine, for now. Dickey is going to be a valuable member of this team, you watch.

Posted by ricofoy

3:38 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Is it true Bedard hurt his hip playing Twister?
A few of us here called his injury history into question long before this ill-fated trade ever took place and sure enough..Does anyone really think he'll be completely healthy by next Thursday? Not me. He'll come back, pitch a start or two and then they'll find out what's really wrong with him.

Posted by Ben

3:39 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Yeah - i think he'll be good and i also doubt he'll be slotted into the rotation, especially after one start. But Batista has left a little to be desired thus far and Washburn is only ok.

If Dickey can come in for middle relief and do a good job there, then that should be good too.

Also - why was Roy Corcoran not even really on that end of spring training list of players being considered? He seems to be doing pretty well since coming up. He's getting a lot of groundball outs. But i don't remember his name being in the mix towards the end of spring training.

Posted by Lance

3:45 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Well, I said before the deal I thought the Mariners would do just fine with a rotation of Felix, Silva, Batista, Washburn and either Morrow, Baek or Dickey. So, I guess I'll get a chance to see, for at least a week anyway, how that rotation would work out.

Sure do miss having Sherrill in the pen and Jones in RF, though.

But, even if we loss Bedard for any significant period of time, it hardly means the season is lost.

However, if some of these hitters don't start coming around we're going to have to recall Jeff Clement. Too many of these guys aren't getting it done. That can't be tolerated long.

Posted by Stu

3:46 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Nice trade Bavasi. I wonder if Heathcliff Slocumb is available? Bedard trade a typical Mariner disaster. Go M's! Yippee!!!!

Posted by oregongal

3:46 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Go #42 (Batista, Yuni, Beltre')!

Enjoy the game, all. Can't wait to read about the victory when I get home tonight.

Posted by kingk

3:48 PM, Apr 15, 2008

He will miss one start calm down ,stupid

Posted by PayClayBennett

3:48 PM, Apr 15, 2008

What a shocker...Bedard will now get less than 30 starts and about 180 IPs - if he regains health and can maintain it. Hmmm...Washburn looked fine outside of Olivo's crush shot last night. Batista will be fine, he's strong and smart - he'll get it together.

My first complaint with the 5-for-Erik Bedard trade was his health history. He has not the ability to go through a season and last year he missed the last 5 weeks with a strained tummy muscle. If I was RA, I would be counting on some starts and it may be Bedard who is out of the rotation, not Batista or Washburn.

I posted a couple of blog entries ago about the "magic" this team lacks. This Bedard deal is another example - they (Billy) makes all of these moves and nothing ever gels right. Somebody said they were on the brink, showing good plate discipline, being selective and patient, etc. - but then they have to make 5 roster moves in 2 days to compensate for injuries and overall suckiness (EOF).

RA may be a "valuable" member of this club this year, but the value will be relative to how competitive they are and right now - an 8 game loser is very possible and that will put them in a tough spot. 6 - 8 is nothing, 6 - 14 is a mountain to climb.

The biggest thing is they have no magic, no fire, no comeback ability. They get down and you can almost close the book. That's the most disturbing part to me....

Posted by Paul

3:51 PM, Apr 15, 2008

I think you're right, Adam. It would be very uncharacteristic of this team to abandon a veteran like Bautista for a guy who makes one or two nice starts, especially this early in the season. And I can't say I disagree too much, although young pitchers in this league have a track record of success in their first season making the rounds against other teams - see Dave Fleming.

Posted by Lance

3:55 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Ben, even if a guy has a bad start early it's going to be nice to have A.J., and even Baek, around. Injuries happen, as well, so these guys are going to be needed.

It's a long season. Unfortunately for us, it seems to be getting even longer quicker than any of us might have imagined it would.

Posted by PayClayBennett

3:58 PM, Apr 15, 2008

kingk - he already missed one, now has missed 2, despite the fact he was plugged back in for a spot against Tampa, in which he was than stellar although he got the win.

If this "hip" problem forces him out of games with an already 5-day period of rest, what makes us believe another few days is going to make it all better. He sighted the hip with the first missed start, sighted the hip for this missed start and more than likely will sight it for the next one.

Stupid is not paying attention and not knowing what you're talking about. Go look at this history bro - never pitched a complete season - ever. Never had 30 starts - ever. That's the kind of guy I want when I'm in a pennant race.....

Stupid is Bill Bavasi - and hopefully finally someone will figure that out and send him down the road. The M's needs a talent evaluator and team builder - not a Goodwill shopper on a Nordstrom budget.

Oregongal - love the optimism honey - hope you're right. Neither Bannister nor Greinke can start tonight, so they should at least have a 50/50 shot...

Posted by kingk

3:58 PM, Apr 15, 2008

glad you think Dickey is a kid...he's 34

Posted by Merrill

3:58 PM, Apr 15, 2008

ricofoy, yes, it is, in fact true that it was a game of Twister that twinged his hip.

As for the "ill-fated"ness of the trade, whoa there, Nelly! Whoa!

If we get him extended we can have 5 more years at 15 million plus per year, 100-180 innings EVERY YEAR, man!

Not to mention this year and next...

I jokes, I jokes, but I think it's obvious the fat lady hasn't sung over the coffin of this trade just quite yet.

Ease off there, now... or not. Whatever. We've got pitching depth, at least, if not other kinds.

Let's see what the future holds.

Posted by PayClayBennett

4:02 PM, Apr 15, 2008

kingk - dude, yer a party pooper dude - 34 is a kid when you're 63. Quit cutting at everyone and contribute or just read and keep your 2 cents in your pea brain.

Posted by Ben

4:03 PM, Apr 15, 2008

I'm switching to the game thread.. ps - ichiro just stole a base. Good work, kid.

Posted by Chris from Bothell

4:10 PM, Apr 15, 2008

RA Dickey: Angel killer.

Bedard on the DL in April is a hell of a lot better than Bedard out for rest of the year in June. Debate the trade all you want... considering that he's here, and his health needs to be dealt with, this is actually smart.

I'm going to get out of this thread and stay away, before AKMarinersFan (a.k.a. Eeyore) gets here. Because I can look up Adam Jones and George Sherrill's stats myself. ;)

Posted by Lance

4:13 PM, Apr 15, 2008

PCB, you make some good points about Bedard, Now we see first hand why this guy has never thrown 200 innings in his albeit short ML career.

And, now we can see why Carlos Silva has.

I just hope Bavasi doesn't compound matters by signing this guy to a long-term contract that I'm confident this team is going to rue.

Posted by Fantasy Fanatic

4:55 PM, Apr 15, 2008

This is a big blow to the Mariners and fantasy owners everywhere. I just wrote a blog this afternoon on Bedard and encouraged readers to come over here and check out what Geoff had to say. Turns out I have to go back and note that he now has been placed on the DL! Terrible news. Anyway, for those of you who play fantasy sports and would be interested in my blog entry, you can check it out at http://cnfantasyfanatic.blogspot.com.

Posted by Mark in Beaverton

5:14 PM, Apr 15, 2008

My predicted Starting Roation:
4/16 - FH
4/17 - CS
4/18 - RAD
4/19 - JW
4/20 - MB
4/21 - OFF
4/22 - FH (5 Days Rest)
4/23 - CS (5 Days Rest)
4/24 - JW (4 Days Rest)
4/25 - MB (4 Days Rest)
4/26 - EB

This accomplishes:
- Breaking up the left starters
- Takes advantage of the off day
- Doesn't require the starters to have more than 5 days between starts. I couldn't figure out a way bring EB back as early as 4/23 without back to back lefties or forcing CS to go 6+days between starts.

I am kind of a scheduling junkie. When not doing a suduko puzzle.

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Posted by kkoufax

5:23 PM, Apr 15, 2008

You don't want Bedard on our team? You're the genius

Posted by FuKell

6:43 PM, Apr 15, 2008

This is a terrible news. It's officially a BAD trade. Bavasi just do that to save his job. Fire him! with our inconsistent offense, we barely beat anyone. we can kiss the playoff chance good bye. Sad

Posted by kkoufax

7:22 PM, Apr 15, 2008

Clay you stated Bedard never started 30 games ever Well check 2006 33 starts 196 innings...Get your facts straight stupid...and enough on the trade It will be great in the end It's 2 weeks Sick of you and the naysayers It's 2 weeks

Posted by fastball

10:16 PM, Apr 15, 2008

For all those who think Adam Jones was the be all end all...

"pr. 15 News:12:19 PM

Jones entered Monday night's game on an 0-for-10 hitting slump, he righted the ship by singling in his first three at-bats. He attributed his success to getting to the park early and working with hitting coach Terry Crowley, reports the Baltimore Sun. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/features/briefingroom?playerId=28513

I think Morse is proving actually as good if not better than Jones. M's gave too much away for Bedard IMO but they were desparate for 1 more quality picthcer which was hard if not impossible to find at the time.

Carlos Silva iwas a great trade BTW.

Posted by sofun

11:16 PM, Apr 15, 2008

yes, DEFINITELY Mike Morse is better than Adam Jones!!!

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