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April 10, 2008 11:50 AM

Mariners at Rays: 04/10 game thread

Posted by Geoff Baker

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11:50 a.m.: A disastrous seventh inning by the Mariners, who give up five runs and now trail 7-0. I have no problem with John McLaren allowing Miguel Batista to start the inning at 100 pitches. He's trying to spare his bullpen for the Angels series (and just spare it for the sake of sparing it given what we've seen since last week). Batista is capable of going well over 100 pitches and was still pitching well when he had to leading up to that point. The problem, after two opening singles, is what happened next. This probably wasn't the best place to soft-land Eric O'Flaherty, but Ryan Rowland-Smith had been used back-to-back days and let's face it -- if he wants to keep his job, O'Flaherty will have to start getting guys out. He didn't do it this time. Hit the first batter he faced to load the bases, putting himself behind the eight ball when he could least afford it. O'Flaherty then yielded a single to right that eluded Richie Sexson. Mike Morse made a poor and ill-advised throw home in a bid to nab the second runner. All that did was allow the two other baserunners to move up a bag. O'Flaherty got a gorundout, then intentionally walked Jonny Gomes with first base open to load 'em up.

Roy Corcoran came in. Unflappable to this point in the season, he walked pinch-hitter Justin Ruggiano on four pitches to force in another run. Mike DiFelice then blooped a single to right to cash in two more. And that, my friends, is likely the ballgame. With just two hits heading into the eighth, the M's were likely cooked in any event. Het, a Miguel Cairo sighting. He'll make a pinch-hit appearance to start the eighth. First appearance all year. Good thing they kept that extra position player on the bench.

By the way, J.J. Putz threw today on flat ground for eight minutes at a distance of about 90 feet. He'll see doctors in Seattle when the team returns there and they'll decide on the next step in his recovery from that rib injury.

Hey, want to take a tour of Tropicana Field? Not the kind they give you from the stands with guides and stuff. We'll do much of it from field level, where I'll show you the artificial playing surface here. We'll actually walk across the field, over to an aquarium where fans get to pet live Rays in a tank beyond the wall in right center. Check it out on the video below.

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11:26 a.m.: A nine-pitch, 1-2-3 inning by the Mariners. Can they make softer outs? I doubt it. Jose Vidro grounded out to third, Mike Morse did the same to shortstop and Kenji Johjima -- plummeting like a satellite through the atmosphere -- tapped out to third. We'll see if Edwin Jackson comes back out. He's at only 89 pitches. The Rays have righty Dan Wheeler and lefty Trever Miller warming up in the bullpen. Maybe they get a two-inning crack at the relief crew. If I'm manager Joe Maddon, I'm tempted to ride the starter a little longer. Eric O'Flaherty warming up for the M's. Miguel Batista begins the inning at 100 pitches. No, O'Flaherty hasn't regained his situational lefty role. The M's are trailing.

11:22 a.m.: That was a big run the Rays just scored in the sixth to take a 2-0 lead. Miguel Batista had used the tandem of Nathan Haynes and Mike DiFelice to escape two previous innings with runners on base. Almost did it again with Jonny Gomes on second base after a double to left center. Got Haynes on a gorunder to firs, Gomes taking third. But DiFelice came through with a single blooped to right center. M's have to at least work Jackson's pitch count this inning and try to get it up to 100 or more. That way, they'd have roughly a two-inning crack at the Tampa Bay bullpen.

11:15 p.m.: The M's just allowed Edwin Jackson to cruise through the sixth inning on 80 pitches total so far. They didn't get their second hit of the game until a two-out single to right by Raul Ibanez. Richie Sexson promptly popped out foul to end the inning. Not looking good so far. Miguel Batista got out of the last inning with a runner on third when Mike Morse made an awkward-looking, lunging catch in right. Still a 1-0 game, Rays in the lead, with time running out. If the M's had been a little more patient that last inning, they might have run up Jackson's pitch count a little. Their best hope now could be to drive him from the game via attrition and hope the Rays' bullpen implodes as it can usually be counted on to do -- Troy Percival or not.

10:50 a.m.: Miguel Batista has been falling behind hitters all day. It finally cost him in the fourth, when his former Toronto teammate, Eric Hinske, launched a 3-1 pitch into the right field seats to make it 1-0 for the Rays. First hit allowed by Batista today. Batista gave up an ensuing base hit to right by Jonny Gomes, which edged just past first baseman Richie Sexson's glove as he ranged to his left. Batista then rung-up Nathan Haynes on a 1-2 pitch, then got a groundout to the shortstop on Mike DiFelice. On to the fifth. Remember how I said that last inning might come back to haunt the M's? It's haunting them right now. They have to start getting those runners home when they make it to second with no out, or to third with less than two out. This has been going on since the season began and it's costing the team games.

10:42 a.m.: Another on of those big chances squandered by the M's in the fourth. Adrian Beltre got an infield hit that rocketed off the glove of first baseman Carlos Pena. Raul Ibanez then drew a walk to put two on with none out. But Richie Sexson grounded into a 6-4-3 double-play. A very routine one at that. Jose Vidro then hit a sinking liner to left that Carl Crawford made a diving catch on. One of those innings that could come back to haunt this team.

10:32 a.m.: As one of you mentioned, the only way anyone's gotten on base today has been via walks. Three issued by Miguel Batista and two by Edwin Jackson so far. Batista yelded a one-out walk to Akinori Iwamura in the third, but rallied with groundouts on both Carl Crawford and Carlos Pena. Jose Lopez had to be quick on the Crawford grounder to second because the Rays outfielder is so quick. One of the quickest in the league from home to first base, aside from Ichiro.

10:22 a.m.: Kenji Johjima looked lost on that strikeout to begin the third inning. Yuniesky Betancourt popped out to center swinging at the seccond pitch for out No. 2. Ichiro drew a walk, but did not steal second base to position himself for an RBI. I thought he was supposed to steal 80 this year? Jose Lopez took a fair number of pitches for him, but then wound up striking out. Five strikeouts by Seattle in just three innings. No score heading to the bottom of the third.

10:15 a.m.: Miguel Batista is having some early command issues, but it hasn't cost him yet. Batista issued a one-out walk to Jonny Gomes, then fell behind 2-0 on the next batter, Nathan Haynes. But Haynes popped out to shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt -- the second such out in the inning. Mike DiFelice then grounded out to end the frame.

Seattle got a baserunner in the top of the inning when Richie Sexson drew yet another walk. That was with one out, but Jose Vidro popped out harmlessly to left. Sexson took second on an ensuing wild pitch by Edwin Jackson, but Mike Morse struck out with the RBI opportunity. Still no score.

10:00 a.m.: The Mariners went 1-2-3 against a quick-working Edwin Jackson in a top of the first that took only three minutes to play. Miguel Batista walked the first batter he faced on four pitches in the bottom of the inning, but rallied with a groundout, a strikeout and and a flyball to center by B.J. Upton. Scoreless heading to the second. Kenji Johjima is back in the lineup after the big night last night by Jamie Burke. We'll see if Johjima can build on his .080 batting average.

9:46 a.m.: The Mariners go for the series sweep here, with Miguel Batista opposing Edwin Jackson. Mike Morse gets the start in right field. Mariners manager John McLaren wants to give Brad Wilkerson's knees a rest after two games on the artificial surface.

The lineups:

MARINERS (4-5)

51 Ichiro (L) CF
4 Jose Lopez 2B
29 Adrian Beltre 3B
28 Raul Ibanez (L) LF
44 Richie Sexson 1B
3 Jose Vidro (S) DH
12 Mike Morse RF
2 Kenji Johjima C
5 Yuniesky Betancourt SS

43 Miguel Batista RHP


RAYS (3-5)

1 Akinori Iwamura (L) 2B
13 Carl Crawford (L) LF
23 Carlos Pena (L) 1B
2 B.J. Upton CF
32 Eric Hinske (L) 3B
31 Jonny Gomes (DH)
37 Nathan Haynes (L) RF
20 Mike DiFelice C
8 Jason Bartlett SS

36 Edwin Jackson RHP

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Kind of like having breakfast in front of the big-screen TV, isn't it?

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Posted by i heart Morse

9:59 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Nothing like following the M's game at work via box score updates...it's days like today when I appreciate Geoff's detailed commentary even more...GO MORSE!

Posted by Frankie

10:02 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Hey Geoff, thanks for the link to 950 KJR's website. Being in NY, I kinda get sick of hearing all this radio talk about the Mets and Yankees. I always wanted to hear a radio show from Seattle but I didn't have XM Satellite Radio.

But now, I'm currently listening to 950 KJR from Seattle. It's a pleasant change I must say :)

GO M'S!!!!!

Posted by Frankie

10:08 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Edwin Jackson is throwin really good right now. He's obviously not the same pitcher that went 5-15 last year....

Posted by sfmsfan

10:15 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Other than mlb.com, is there somewhere I can get the radio broadcast of the game over the internet?

Posted by neil

10:23 AM, Apr 10, 2008

5 K's through 3 innings? Oy.

Posted by Ben

10:25 AM, Apr 10, 2008

It's a game of walks.

Maybe we can string a few walks together and score a run...

Posted by oregongal

10:30 AM, Apr 10, 2008

I think local radio stations are pretty much prohibited from broadcasting games over the Internet.

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

10:38 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Has there ever been a double no hitter through 9? do you still get a credit for a no hitter if you give up a run in the 10th?

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

10:39 AM, Apr 10, 2008

never mind...beltre made me look stupid. but maybe Batista will get one!

Posted by FuKell

10:42 AM, Apr 10, 2008

can somebody explain to me why Kenji is out there but not Jamie, who can hit??? btw, what is Mc still doing there? shouldn't he get fired?? he's an idiot!

Posted by ricofoy

10:43 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Attaboy Dick...1st pitch swinging into a DP right after a walk and with 2 on and 0 out.
Nice nice at bat!

Posted by sfmsfan

10:44 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Pedro Martinez once through a perfect game through 9, but gave up a hit in the 10th so it didn't count.

Posted by oregongal

10:45 AM, Apr 10, 2008

MLB only counts no-hitters if they last all the way through the game. I remember reading as a kid about a couple of guys who threw 9 inning no hitters, but still lost the game. That's gotta be tough.

Posted by neil

10:48 AM, Apr 10, 2008

looks like the no hitter discussion is moot

Posted by Ben

10:48 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Excellent, Sexson. I think what he's done on this road trip should deserve some cheers at home.

I'm going to the game sunday vs the angels - i'll cheer him.

Posted by Seattle Sports Blog

10:50 AM, Apr 10, 2008

We're getting one hit by a guy that was 5-15 last year with a 5.76 ERA. LOVELY! Hey Richie, how about you start living up to that $15M dollar per year contract? My mom could have sacraficed over those runners. Put this tool in the 8th spot or don't play him. Anyone see how well Broussard is tearing it up? Should have kept him.

Posted by i heart Morse

10:52 AM, Apr 10, 2008

If it makes anyone feel better, Jose Guillen ($12 mil) hasn't done anything in KC so far.

Posted by oregongal

10:56 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Well, Guillen has managed to avoid the suspension so far. That may work out.

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:01 AM, Apr 10, 2008

why even carry bats if all they're going to do is walk? oh yeah, you need to have a bat to strike out!

Posted by bd

11:01 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Gotta love the Playboy purse for the chick petting the Ray. You stay classy, Tampa.

Posted by Griffey24

11:02 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Richie Sexson = Jay Buhner

He "is what he is". HR-RBI totals in 2005 and 2006:
39-121
34-107

I'm sick of posters complaining Richie isn't earning his contract. He had a bad 2007, but was well worth the money in '05 and '06.

Posted by Merrill

11:03 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Wow, the MLB.com site's gameday has a band of drunken lemurs entering results. In the top of the fourth, according to them, Beltre lined out, Ibanez struck out, and Sexson popped one over the fence.

Woo-hoo!

Somewhere in an alternate dimension, the M's are winning!

Posted by Frankie

11:03 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Another run scored here by the Rays can put an end to this game...

Posted by Merrill

11:04 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Ah, they've got it sorted now... that was tres weird...

Posted by i heart Morse

11:07 AM, Apr 10, 2008

this is about as scary of a position as I can imagine...watching the box score with Crawford, Pena, and Gomes due up against Batista with two on and no out

I think i had a nightmare about this last night

Posted by Ben

11:09 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Yeah i was looking at that scoreboard for a while and then realized it was all wrong... actually it was yahoo sports that i was on until i switched to ESPN.

Batista is doing that whole letting too many runners on thing that he's sort of famous for. I'd like to see a nice 1-2-3 inning again for him.

Posted by Frankie

11:09 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Well, Miggy got out of it thanks to a nice catch by Morse. We need to score a run this inning with Lopez, Beltre, Ibanez coming up...

Posted by Frankie

11:11 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Jeez, the M's arent doin anything at the plate. 2 outs already.

It looks like we are gonna have to wait for Jackson to make a 1 pitch mistake and have someone hit it over the fence to score...

Posted by i heart Morse

11:13 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Did Morse really make a nice catch? Man, those USSM guys just can't catch a break

Posted by Chris from Bothell

11:14 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Geoff: "They have to start getting those runners home when they make it to second with no out, or to third with less than two out. This has been going on since the season began and it's costing the team games."

*scribble scribble*

"... This has been a problem off and on for several years and it's costing the team games."

Fixed that for you. :)

Sad to see Joh having such a bad start offensively; I've really liked his bat.

Hopefully the innings so far today are an aberration, and the Ms will relearn some of the patience at the plate they'd been showing previously. E.g. Sexson taking pitches like he had in previous games, rather than first-pitch swinging like today so far.

And, here in the 5th, I will make a bold prediction: Mac will not be able to make the bullpen or bench swaps necessary to give the Ms a fighting chance.

Posted by Adam

11:14 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Unbelievable how bad the Rays are hitting right now. I don't know if they can afford to keep Evan Longoria in AAA for another month. Batista has not been good, but the Rays aren't doing anything.


Jackson, meanwhile, is showing us why ERA and wins do not best measure a pitcher. He's pretty darn good.

Posted by Frankie

11:14 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Yeah he did...it was a bloop into right-center and he dove on his side and made a back-handed catch. Saved us a run.

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:14 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Griffey 24,

Doing some calculations, and bearing in mind that I studied history in college and not engineering, I have Richie on track to hit 20 HR's and 120 RBI's. Clearly, he's doing well in the RBI dept, but he needs to get his HR's up. I want to believe!

Here's a question: what if Richie hits 30 HR's, 120 RBI's and bats .280 this season. Do we give him a new K? If so, would he take less money than he's currently making, or do you think the discontentment is too great to pursue him again even if its in the team's best interest?

Posted by sjazzdude

11:14 AM, Apr 10, 2008

As far as I'm concerned, Edwin Jackson is throwing a no-hitter. That Beltre "hit" should have been ruled an error. It hit the first baseman's glove before it skewed in the centerfield. As a I finished that last sentence, Ibanez hits a legitimate base hit. So now Jackson is throwing a one-hitter.

I've played baseball and softball for over a dozen years and it was required to talk to each other in the dugout to share how the pitcher his throwing. That was always part of the adjustment throughout the game. Do they abandon that philosophy in the majors?

Posted by Adam

11:18 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Good grief - because Morse makes a diving play (one that he probably didn't need to make) he's proved anything as a fielder?

Posted by Frankie

11:19 AM, Apr 10, 2008

If we lose 1-0 I am going to cry...

Posted by i heart Morse

11:19 AM, Apr 10, 2008

I love how the relevance of sample size is so malleable to some people

Posted by Mariner's Fan in Hawaii

11:21 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Someone help me out...Yahoo keeps screwing up the game channel broadcast. First its 1-0 Rays. Then its 1-0 M's with Sexson hitting a homerun. Then its changed to a DP. Then they have Vidro hitting a homer in the "bottom" of the 4th inning for the Rays.

What is the score and is it too late for Microsoft to buy Yahoo! LOL

Posted by sjazzdude

11:21 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Bloomquist would have made a better sub for Wilkerson than Morse. Morse is an infielder who's trying to make the transition to playing the outfield. At least Bloomquist's ability far exceeds Morse's in the outfield.

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:24 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Geoff. Morse is playing for Wilkerson today...thank god...

Posted by i heart Morse

11:26 AM, Apr 10, 2008

sjjzaa:

The biggest weakness of the team so far has been their offense...Morse is far superior to Bloomquist in that department, props to Mac for goin with MM

Posted by kingk

11:26 AM, Apr 10, 2008

his era is microscopic and he is on his way to a 2-0 record His era and win total was bad last few seasons because he was bad...Like koufax when he learned to pitch he won and his era dropped 2+ runs

Posted by Ben

11:27 AM, Apr 10, 2008

It's 2-0 with Tampa up.

Yahoo and other things have been messed up.

Posted by sjazzdude

11:27 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Why did Mac pinch hit Vidro to lead off the 7th?? I would think he would use Vidro to move runners over. I'm confused.

Posted by Ben

11:28 AM, Apr 10, 2008

I think they've successfully iced Mike Morse... he's not really hitting better than Wilkerson at this point. He might want to pick it up if he wants to win more playing time.

Posted by kingk

11:29 AM, Apr 10, 2008

woops should have said are in last post not is I hate syntax errors...Morse sucks no matter what he does so no one bother praising him for anything...And oh yeah raul he sucks too let's not forget

Posted by calim

11:29 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Barry Bonds
Barry Lamar Bonds
Bats Left, Throws Left
Height 6' 1", Weight 228 lb.
School Arizona State University

Debut May 30, 1986

Born July 24, 1964 in Riverside, CA

Son of Bobby Bonds and Cousin of Reggie Jackson

Posted by Seattle Sports Blog

11:29 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Why take Burke out? KEEP THE HOT BAT IN THE LINEUP Jonny Mac! Wake UP! Kenji the idiot his hitting .071...wake up, wake up, wake up!!!!!! How many games is this manager going to lose for this team this year????? If we get swept by the Angels, it's time to be concerned

Posted by Griffey24

11:30 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Tallahassee-
Great question. First I'll start by saying even in my most optimistic mind, Richie won't hit .280 (see the Richie=Bone comment).
Having said that, if he pops 30 dingers and drives in 100 for the 3rd time in 4 seasons, I hope the M's fans don't still boo him. Having said that, I expect M's management to offer Richie a substantially lower dollar amount for a couple years and let Richie decide whether he wants to come back. We don't really have a viable option if Richie leaves, so other FA candidates will factor in as well.

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:31 AM, Apr 10, 2008

time to pull batista RIGHT NOW!!

Posted by John

11:32 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Another middle-rung pitcher making the M's offense look like what it is -- way below average.

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:37 AM, Apr 10, 2008

O'Flaherty = O' F**K

Depending on how he does today, this little slogan just might catch on...

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

11:38 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Seattle Sports Blog,

Because Burke is the backup Catcher and as such he plays 1-2 times a week.

Kenji has a track record as a hitter and with this only being 9 games in, I'd hold off asking to bench him. History tells me he will hit again.

IF we get to mid-May and Kenji still isn't hitting, I'd advocate looking hard at bringing up Clement to push him.

Posted by Ben

11:39 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Ah the O'Flaherty Magic. Come in and tell them whose plate that is - it's yours, Eric. Don't worry about the bases getting loaded - you hit as many people as needed.

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

11:40 AM, Apr 10, 2008

While I am not against giving EOF work in games where we are behind, why him with runners in scoring position and a close game? Does Mac not see the risk of this based on recent situations?

Where is Lowe? Obviously he's not the closer so why NOT bring HIM in?

Posted by Merrill

11:41 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Guys, it's a day game after a night game. They always rest the night-game catcher and use the backup for the following day game. Catching's hard on the legs and they need recovery time. Since they wanted to give Kenji a break yesterday, he's back in today.

Sounds like the Drunken Lemur Brigade is out in full force, infesting more than one Website...

Can't believe they'er not trying to work the count. Or that they ran Batista out there again for the seventh after 100+ this early in the season.

Easy to say from my armchair, though...

Posted by Frito Bandito

11:41 AM, Apr 10, 2008

O'Flaherty: OY OY OY!!!

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:45 AM, Apr 10, 2008

OF is really "Flaherty'ing" it up out there.

Posted by Nat

11:45 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Ummm, was that one of those 'soft landing' spots that Mac was talking about a few days ago?

Posted by i heart Morse

11:46 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Game over...have a nice afternoon everyone.

Tallahasee...I like that phrase. I think it will stick

Posted by tallahassee-mariner's fan

11:46 AM, Apr 10, 2008

the only reason to bring in OF is because we're throwing in the towel. with this offense, mac probably just thought it would be best to start over tomorrow...

Posted by John

11:46 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Keep pushing those buttons Johnny Magic. Everything you do has been gold so far!

Posted by Chris from Bothell

11:49 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Mmm. Potatoes.

Thanks, Eric.

Because obviously Mac is saving Lowe and Corcoran for the Angels series. And then RRS for Saturday or Sunday. Obviously. Wheels within wheels, that guy.

Posted by Merrill

11:50 AM, Apr 10, 2008

...and it's officially out of hand...

Anyone think the bench will get used here?

Me neither...

Geoff, I think you got that "2-inning crack at the BP" backward.

Although they didn't need it. And it's 3 innings plus a couple extra runners on base.

Lovely.

Posted by B'Ham

11:51 AM, Apr 10, 2008

I wish I had started edwin jackson on my fantasy team today.

Posted by Michael

11:51 AM, Apr 10, 2008

At some point, don't you ride the hot bat? I understand that Burke caught yesterday, but the guy plays so sparingly, I'm sure he could've caught again today. If he couldn't start, why not pinch hit for Johjima midway through the game?

As far as O'Flaherty, send him back to AAA to gain some confidence or work out his problem. RA Dickey and Feierabend are both pitching well in Tacoma.

Something needs to be done at DH. Vidro is giving you nothing. You have Clement, La Hair and Balentien wasting away in Tacoma.

Everyone can say that it's early and there's no reason to jump off the bridge, but instead of being in 1st place, you're behind an Angels team that's without 2 of their top starting pitchers & their closer.

Looking at the starting lineup of both teams, I think I'd be more fearful of the Angels right now.

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

11:52 AM, Apr 10, 2008

When JJ comes back we send down EOF, release Baek and keep Corcoran while activating Rhodes.

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

11:53 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Hey everybody, it's a Cairo sighting!

Posted by Frito Bandito

11:53 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Mariner's Fan in Hawaii: Try ESPN's site:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/scoreboard

click on 'gamecast'

I think you will like it much better than yahoo.

Posted by Adam

11:53 AM, Apr 10, 2008

REPEAT AFTER ME:


Eric O'Flaherty pitched well today. Are you gonna tell me that a fluke HBP thanks to a baggy jersey, a seeing-eye single, a tapper to the mound, and a IBB is a bad day?

But I'm sure we've seen the last of EOF for a while. McLaren will only look at the fact that EOF let two inherited runners score, and gave up three himself, and decide he needs to be sent down.

It's the wrong decision; EOF is better than Rhodes, but I imagine we'll see Rhodes up shortly while EOF is sent down to Tacoma.


It's a shame, because EOF did a very good job today.

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

11:54 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Michael, one problem - Mac hates using kids. If he has a choice between Turbo (Vidro) and LaHair, Clement, et al he will go with the "proven" vet.

Posted by Chris from Bothell

11:54 AM, Apr 10, 2008

...yep, that's right, mac, game's a lost cause, time to get the bench to stretch its legs.. O HAI Cairo, we can has basehit?.. nope, lined out. Welcome to the Ms. So glad you're giving Yuni a rest.

Posted by mike

11:55 AM, Apr 10, 2008

O'Flaherty's era = 20.25 send him to our single b club in north korea. He's probably McLaren's nephew. we can't win with a chump like him!!!

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

11:56 AM, Apr 10, 2008

You know the game is lost when not only Cairo PHs but Bloomie PHs as well.

Oy vay.

Posted by Nat

11:57 AM, Apr 10, 2008

tallahassee: O'flaherty'ing is too hard to say, let alone spell :)

Let's see how Lowe does here. If the M's can get a few, umm, like six runs on the board in the next two innings, we could take this one.

Oh, I can see Mac has given up - subbing Cairo is a sure sign. I heart Morse, guess you're right...game over.

Posted by BringBackBone

11:58 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Why is O'Flaherty still coming into games?! Send him down, he obviously isnt ready for the big leagues.

Posted by Adam

11:59 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Everybody who thinks EOF pitched poorly today needs help...

Posted by Michael

11:59 AM, Apr 10, 2008

Beady Eye- Mac is trying to be like Piniella. He'd rather stick with the veteran no matter how bad they're playing instead of giving some talented kid an opportunity to play.

Wouldn't it be nice if Balentien or Clement could've gotten more AB after their call-up last season? Instead, he stuck with the veterans and look where it's gotten the organization. I just don't get it.

Even a team like Boston is trusting in their scouting and giving young guys an opportunity at the major league level.

Posted by Merrill

12:00 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Jeeze, 3 runs in a third of an inning? That's gotta hurt the ol' ERA...

They sometimes use a night-game catcher as a day-game PH. The problem with Burke's bat is, it's always hot. Can't have that!

Hey, I'm really catching on to the sourness! I get it now! Comes from watching the wheels fall off live... Since it's a morning East-Coast game, I can stay up late and follow my boys down the tubes...

Even the gutpunch of reading about the loss the next day doesn't quite compare or pack the same umph...

I agree, Michael, I'd like to see EOF go down and get some work, and Dickey come back up. Add Feierabend, too, what the heck; cut Cairo and USE Jimerson and Willie! Goodness...

(And whoever said Willie is faster than Jimerson--nah!)

Posted by Michael

12:02 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Why are they keeping an extra position player on the bench when we haven't even seen Bloomquist, Cairo or Jimerson? Shouldn't you cut one of those guys and bring up an extra pitcher especially with Putz being down?

Posted by Adam

12:03 PM, Apr 10, 2008

A Merrill sighting!!


Where have you been, man?

Posted by Samuel L. Jackson

12:05 PM, Apr 10, 2008

This offense is worse than last year. And I know that our offense was above average last year statistically but if you watched them all year you know that they weren't above average when it really counted. We can't or won't run (including oour leadoff hitter) and we have no power. There is not one guy in this lineup that scares anybody. The only way we score runs is by the occasional home run or when we can rarely bunch a couple of hits together. We are a station to station offense without the ability to hit station to station consistently. I fear that without some major moves, this is what we can expect this year.

Posted by John

12:07 PM, Apr 10, 2008

I guess I need help.
My definition of pitching well - for O'Flaherty - would be for him to be able to get a left-handed batter out. So far I haven't seen that happen too much.

On a different note: We head to Seattle down 2 games to Anaheim. We have our best three pitchers going. Neither team is likely to have its closer. They have a day to rest up, while we'll be getting off a cross-country flight.
Advantage Angels.
I see us being down three games after this weekend.
Hurry back, J.J.!!!

Posted by Merrill

12:12 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Adam, interesting analysis of EOF's outing. I'm looking at a computer printout here, so it looks much worse than seeing the broadcast. From your comments, I take it you can see the plays?

I really don't think, if you're right, they'll send him down. Rhodes won't be ready for another week. According to Geoff, he did his job last Saturday as well. It's giving up hits to lefties that's killing him... I know, small sample size....

Posted by Seattle Sports Blog

12:13 PM, Apr 10, 2008

How fitting, Richie Rich ends the game with strikeout. Anyone care to wager that the guy will EVER hit over .250 again? I'd take a .280 average, 25 HR's, and 100 RBI's any day of the week vs. a .205 average and 33 HR's

Posted by Michael

12:17 PM, Apr 10, 2008

They're a station to station team cause they have a bunch of old farts! I don't buy into McLaren wanting to play small ball when a majority of his starting lineup is SLOW!

What I don't get is why Bavasi still has a job? He traded Soriano for Ramirez and the guy ended up being a BUST! Instead of admitting that it was a mistake, he re-signs the guy for what $2M or was it $4M and the guy doesn't even make it out of spring training. How can the organization still justify keeping the guy? Is Bavasi the Isiah Thomas of the NBA?

Posted by Adam

12:22 PM, Apr 10, 2008

John - the first problem is that your evaluation is results-based. Just because EOF gave up three runs doesn't necessarily mean he pitched poorly.

Again, the HBP was an inside fastball under the hands (as they had been pitching Pena all series) that nicked his loose jersey.

Upton's single was a jam-job that he fisted to the right of our super defensive 1B. It scored two runs. If it's hit a foot to the right, there is little damage.

Hinske hit a weak tapper to the pitcher.

Then an IBB to Gomes to load the bases.

Thanks to Corcoran, all three (Pena, Upton, Gomes) scored.


Sorry, I have real trouble seeing how EOF pitched poorly, results be damned.

Posted by Merrill

12:24 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Richie's a .260 guy when he's clubbing the lights out of the ball. Most power hitters are. Wilky's like that, too.

.270 would be a dream season, unless he suffers a power drop.

Adam, I moved outside the Big City. Took a while to get the Internet connection going in the new place. I lurked in Internet shops and followed along, but never commented. Too many dang kids playing video games online and yelling to each other from across the room.

At least these local shops are smart enough to provide headphones instead of the outrageous cacaphony you sometimes get otherwise....

Posted by RudyL

12:35 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Why don't you mention the Rays' players by name (instead of "the batter" or "the runner") when doing play by play descriptions? It kind of reminds me of listening to Niehaus, who never bothers to say (learn?) anything about the opponent.

It's more informative if we know, say, whether it's Crawford or DeFelice running the bases.

Posted by Chris from Bothell

12:45 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Adam - Totally get your argument, thanks. Had only been following the game through website and occasional snippets of radio, so didn't know if O'F was making his pitches or not.

So it then becomes - was putting O'F in the right move or not? The matchup at the time was R/L/R; they were down 4-0 with 2 innings left to play and the bench unused. Was it throwing in the towel? Preserving the bullpen for Anaheim series? Both? Neither? Any reason not to try Corcoran instead in that position?

Posted by sjazzdude

1:25 PM, Apr 10, 2008

During one of Johjima's AB, one of FSN's top camera showed his swing and it showed that he is opening up way too soon. Before he makes contact, his body is already opened up towards third. Thus there's absolutely no power in his swing. He's not keeping his weight back. It looks like he's trying too hard to pull the ball.

It looks like he needs to stay back in the batter's box. Maybe he should try to inside out his swing. He's definitely trying too hard and he needs to try a different approach.

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

4:25 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Adam, Agreed. I am not down on EOF and thought there wasn't much he could do in this situation. It could have been worse.

As to the other guy, EOF IS ready for the ML. Look at his numbers last year. While he tired towards the end, he was quite decent.

Posted by Beady Eye Guy

4:28 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Funny, I see some clamoring for Feierabend YET has anybody seen his MLB #s? I'd take EOF over him anyday of the week.

I agree that maybe we should send EOF down the way we did Sean Green a few years back. Once he finds his stuff, bring him back.

Posted by hiddyho

4:57 PM, Apr 10, 2008

Geoff, Are you being sarcastic about Ichiro not stealing or Mclaren's original comments? Anyway, if it were so easy, I'm sure he could get 1000. I think you missed Ichiro's comemnts on Mac's comments -- he could steal more but would also be caught more. Getting caught so much is just not worth it.

Posted by John

5:13 PM, Apr 10, 2008

I think EOF is a fine lefty, but certainly against Baltimore, no one can argue that he was pitching well there. I'm not saying he can't pitch better ... he obviously did last year. What I don't like is McClaren declaring spots for guys (Richie is OUR first baseman, EOF is OUR setup lefty guy, Vidro is OUR DH) despite how they play. The bench on this team is redundant with no lefty or power, and when you have an uncreative manager like McClaren running things, injuries like the one to Putz result in chaos. Meanwhile, the Angels lose their closer and two of their top starters and continue to find ways to win because they aren't locked into specific roles or ideas on how to succeed. I don't have a problem with EOF being on this team, I just think there needs to more thinking outside of the box.

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