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July 23, 2008 10:10 PM

A little more summer review

Posted by Bob Condotta

As noted elsewhere, I haven't made it out to UW for any of the practice runs this week, and with football and some other duties starting up (hydros, anyone?) my opportunities to do so may be limited for a little while.

But I know those reports are a popular item, so fortunately I corresponded with one person who has seen a few more than I have recently and that person supplied some insight I was given the okay to share with all of you.

So here goes:

--- One of the most interesting things of late is a change in how the team conducts its games. They usually play to 10 or whatever. Now, they are playing to nine, and the team that reaches it first has to hit two free throws to seal it. Miss, and that team goes back to eight and the game is live. This is obviously an attempt at addressing the free throw issue of last year. Am told Venoy Overton clinched a game today by making a bucket, and then two free throws.

--- Speaking of Overton, he's made no secret that improving his outside shoot is a priority this off-season. Sounds as if it's paying off a little bit as his shot is said to be a little more consistent than last season.

--- As noted previously, the biggest revelation in the game of Isaiah Thomas has been his ability to pass. Am told he was on the same side as Jon Brockman today and that it was a combo that worked well on the run, and that he also threw down a "big-time'' dunk on another break.

--- In the eyes of this observer, the freshman besides Thomas who appears readiest to contribute is Elston Turner, who is showing a quick release on his outside shot and playing good defense.

--- Brockman is apparently quickly moving past the ankle injury and surgery.

--- Justin Holiday and Darnell Gant have impressed with their athleticism of late (read, some nice dunks), Holiday also flashing a bit of defense.

--- Bobby Jones apparently stopped by today but didn't play. However, another ex-Husky, Jamaal Williams, did step in for a while.

--- Matthew Bryan-Amaning said goodbye to his teammates today as he is now off to England to play for the national U-20 team there. He could be gone for two months or so but will be back in time for the start of school and the season.

All for now.

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Posted by Splash

10:57 PM, Jul 23, 2008

A couple interesting stories from the LA times about what's going on in Vegas I thought I'd pass along:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-ncaa23-2008jul23,0,4239295.story

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-vegas22-2008jul22,0,1214331.column

I always wondered how coaches would stand out in the crowd...apparently by wearing big flashy shirts with school logos on them.

Does anyone have any pictures they could share of what the stands at these AAU events actually look like? The story makes it sound like literally every D1 coach will be in Las Vegas this week, though certainly not all at the same games at the same time.

Posted by B

11:39 PM, Jul 23, 2008

If you would like to watch some of the games you can do so at visionsports.com

Posted by bill Fisher

11:44 PM, Jul 23, 2008

where and when do they usually play? Husky gym, St. jJoseph church etc?
-bill

Posted by B

12:24 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Usually play in one of the gyms at Hec Ed but ya never know. Because of all the other stuff that goes on the times can change. And after today some of the guys will be taking a short break with the first set of summer classes ending so not sure what it will be like next week

Posted by TuBob Shakur

5:43 AM, Jul 24, 2008

That's a great idea for the free throw shooting. But they should change the rule to make the team go back to 7 or 6 if the guy misses either free throw. :)

Posted by patience

6:10 AM, Jul 24, 2008

what a great idea ending games with free throws.

just an idea, but how about the game only ends if each member of the winning squad hits a free throw? of course then the game might NEVER end.

any word on stanback bob?

Posted by MT Husky

7:13 AM, Jul 24, 2008

I suspect, bet and hope we'll see a LOT of Thomas/Brockman pick & rolls this coming season. I sure like what we're hearing.

Posted by dawgpack

7:59 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Bob, any idea what Jamaal Williams is up to these days? Is he playing pro somewhere?

Posted by MattySimone

9:17 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Ive been to a few aau games this summer as my friends little brother plays for a local team and is in vegas as we speak. The two that I went to included rotory one which has smith, siva and wroten on there team. one was at franklin and one at bcc. In both cases there is a single row of seats around 3 sides of the court and the other long side is two rows of bleachers lol yeah and when rotory is on the court it was a couple rows deep of standing on two sides. Coaches do exactly what you guys thought they usually all sit under one basket kinda like a roped off area and they all have there team apparel on. the one at bcc had some big name coaches.....romar howland and barnes to note a few. Barnes is on gaddy and bradley very hard. I read yesterday that Bradley is considered the top perimeter defender in the country, I dont know if that was on here or a different site. To bad we cant snag him. Im sure after this tourney wroten and ESPECIALLY SMITH will have a offer from every coach in the country. Romar could add a ring to his collection if he can land Smith.....hes that good and BIG! Id also like to see Kemp commit

Posted by Mattysimone

9:19 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Trent is another that looks very explosive.....I would assume Stanback will be making his choice shortly too

Posted by Sittingdawg

9:52 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Thank you for the updates, Bob. I agree re: Bryan-Amaning, he has a lot more to gain from doing that than from not doing it. There are always injury hazards, but you can't just not suit up.

Can you please re-post the official schedule? It isn't listed on the Seattle Times or ESPN websites. Thanks!

Posted by UWHuskytskeet

10:17 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Great idea about the free-throw shooting to end the game. They should lose a toe if they miss one though.

Posted by MT Husky

11:15 AM, Jul 24, 2008

Here you go Sittingdawg. I'm not Bob, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

http://gohuskies.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/wash-m-baskbl-body.html

Posted by MT Husky

Posted by ZonaBaby

1:02 PM, Jul 24, 2008

This is turning out to be a battle in the state of Arizona.
And for good reason.

Bejarano is one of the elite SG in the nation. And resides in the Wildcats backyard.

Bejarano has the Arizona Wildcats as high on his list as well as the other school.
Some have suggest that the Wildcats are not leading in his recruitement.
This was also said about A.Stover and we know how that turned out.
Yes, the new coaching staff steps in! Get this one Geary.


What is Bejarano viable option:

We have the Arizona Wildcats with its great tradition of guards.
Nationally known as " Point Guard U".

The list of NBA guards are well known.


In 2010, the Arizona Wildcat roster will have a great opening for a 5 star freshman to step in. The next Gilbert with a larger frame.
So, playing time will not be an issue. Playing time in a top program which has one of the toughest schedules with a great deal of games shown on TV. Prime Time.


He will be joining the Wildcats after its Final Four run in 2009.
Yes, the Cats and its staff are hunger for the post season.
(unlike the NIT happy JC school, )


He will be apart of a Top 5 recruiting class for the Arizona Wildcats.
The players being pursued include J.Smith, J.Tyler,A.Brown and Bejarano.
(unlike a top 30 recruiting class)


In recent years, there has NOT been any top recruit from ARIZONA which has not gone to the Arizona Wildcats. And those players are playing in the NBA.


When you select the Arizona Wildcats, you improve your chances of making to the NBA. But, stay in the NBA for years to come. You will have a long career in the NBA from what you learn at the UofA.


So does Bejarano and his parents take a BIG risk with the JC school or go with a proven winner -the Arizona Wildcats - and be the next guard to enter the NBA and make millions,$$$.


The reward by going to the Arizona Wildcats is the RIGHT CHOICE.
Do not let the JC cloud your judgement.


If you need more reasons, the Arizona Wildcat faithfull will provide more!

You may want to read the comments from NBA players below:

This is what a former player said... Gilbert Arenas told the New York Daily News a couple of years ago: "Anybody who comes from Arizona knows the game of basketball. When you play for Coach Olson, you get taught well. You're ready for the NBA."


This is what Andre had to say... After (Iguodala) practiced a while with Philadelphia, he called and said, 'I can't thank you enough for what I learned at Arizona. There has been nothing here that I didn't know coming in,' "

Posted by ZonaBaby

1:03 PM, Jul 24, 2008

This is turning out to be a battle in the state of Arizona.
And for good reason.

Bejarano is one of the elite SG in the nation. And resides in the Wildcats backyard.

Bejarano has the Arizona Wildcats as high on his list as well as the other school.
Some have suggest that the Wildcats are not leading in his recruitement.
This was also said about A.Stover and we know how that turned out.
Yes, the new coaching staff steps in! Get this one Geary.


What is Bejarano viable option:

We have the Arizona Wildcats with its great tradition of guards.
Nationally known as " Point Guard U".

The list of NBA guards are well known.


In 2010, the Arizona Wildcat roster will have a great opening for a 5 star freshman to step in. The next Gilbert with a larger frame.
So, playing time will not be an issue. Playing time in a top program which has one of the toughest schedules with a great deal of games shown on TV. Prime Time.


He will be joining the Wildcats after its Final Four run in 2009.
Yes, the Cats and its staff are hunger for the post season.
(unlike the NIT happy JC school, )


He will be apart of a Top 5 recruiting class for the Arizona Wildcats.
The players being pursued include J.Smith, J.Tyler,A.Brown and Bejarano.
(unlike a top 30 recruiting class)


In recent years, there has NOT been any top recruit from ARIZONA which has not gone to the Arizona Wildcats. And those players are playing in the NBA.


When you select the Arizona Wildcats, you improve your chances of making to the NBA. But, stay in the NBA for years to come. You will have a long career in the NBA from what you learn at the UofA.


So does Bejarano and his parents take a BIG risk with the JC school or go with a proven winner -the Arizona Wildcats - and be the next guard to enter the NBA and make millions,$$$.


The reward by going to the Arizona Wildcats is the RIGHT CHOICE.
Do not let the JC cloud your judgement.


If you need more reasons, the Arizona Wildcat faithfull will provide more!

You may want to read the comments from NBA players below:

This is what a former player said... Gilbert Arenas told the New York Daily News a couple of years ago: "Anybody who comes from Arizona knows the game of basketball. When you play for Coach Olson, you get taught well. You're ready for the NBA."


This is what Andre had to say... After (Iguodala) practiced a while with Philadelphia, he called and said, 'I can't thank you enough for what I learned at Arizona. There has been nothing here that I didn't know coming in,' "

Posted by ZonaBaby

1:05 PM, Jul 24, 2008

This is turning out to be a battle in the state of Arizona.
And for good reason.

Bejarano is one of the elite SG in the nation. And resides in the Wildcats backyard.

Bejarano has the Arizona Wildcats as high on his list as well as the other school.
Some have suggest that the Wildcats are not leading in his recruitement.
This was also said about A.Stover and we know how that turned out.
Yes, the new coaching staff steps in! Get this one Geary.


What is Bejarano viable option:

We have the Arizona Wildcats with its great tradition of guards.
Nationally known as " Point Guard U".

The list of NBA guards are well known.


In 2010, the Arizona Wildcat roster will have a great opening for a 5 star freshman to step in. The next Gilbert with a larger frame.
So, playing time will not be an issue. Playing time in a top program which has one of the toughest schedules with a great deal of games shown on TV. Prime Time.


He will be joining the Wildcats after its Final Four run in 2009.
Yes, the Cats and its staff are hunger for the post season.
(unlike the NIT happy JC school, )


He will be apart of a Top 5 recruiting class for the Arizona Wildcats.
The players being pursued include J.Smith, J.Tyler,A.Brown and Bejarano.
(unlike a top 30 recruiting class)


In recent years, there has NOT been any top recruit from ARIZONA which has not gone to the Arizona Wildcats. And those players are playing in the NBA.


When you select the Arizona Wildcats, you improve your chances of making to the NBA. But, stay in the NBA for years to come. You will have a long career in the NBA from what you learn at the UofA.


So does Bejarano and his parents take a BIG risk with the JC school or go with a proven winner -the Arizona Wildcats - and be the next guard to enter the NBA and make millions,$$$.


The reward by going to the Arizona Wildcats is the RIGHT CHOICE.
Do not let the JC cloud your judgement.


If you need more reasons, the Arizona Wildcat faithfull will provide more!

You may want to read the comments from NBA players below:

This is what a former player said... Gilbert Arenas told the New York Daily News a couple of years ago: "Anybody who comes from Arizona knows the game of basketball. When you play for Coach Olson, you get taught well. You're ready for the NBA."


This is what Andre had to say... After (Iguodala) practiced a while with Philadelphia, he called and said, 'I can't thank you enough for what I learned at Arizona. There has been nothing here that I didn't know coming in,' "

Posted by Bob Condotta

1:14 PM, Jul 24, 2008

Jamal has been playing overseas, but maybe he's here now trying to get on a summer team --- he's done the last few years. I can say that he has been a hard one to keep track of. He's seemingly somewhere different every month or so.

I have heard nothing new on Stanback, but remember, his mom said last week it could be a month or so and that he had a few more trips to take. I would suspect maybe in a few weeks we'll hear something (and I would say I continue to hear that UW is more of a longshot than some of the other schools).

Posted by Scott

1:17 PM, Jul 24, 2008

WTF

UofA is spamming blogs now?

The program is in such crisis mode down there that it has come to this?

Who's next to decommit?

Posted by Ziasudra

1:50 PM, Jul 24, 2008

Perhaps zonababy should go take a graduate class at U of A and learn how to use a keyboard (because he clearly is keyboard-challenged).

Posted by JoeBlogger

1:51 PM, Jul 24, 2008

I honestly enjoy the competetiveness of Pac 10 basketball. Even such that I root for all Pac-10 schools in the tournament (even WSU). But dear God I hate Arizona. I swear your school is the Jan Brady of the Pac-10. Even though UCLA is # 1, you have to play the precocious middle child, always refocusing the attention on yourself. If only global warming could move faster.

Posted by Sittingdawg

2:33 PM, Jul 24, 2008

Thanks MT Husky! Wow, that is a brutal stretch on Jan. 29-Feb. 7, @UA, @ASU, @Cal, @Stan.

There has been so much media about where Stanback goes. Is he a program-changing recruit? Didn't he average like 1.9 ppg last year? Does he have a good attitude? What would his star rating be, were there such a thing for transferring freshmen?

Posted by Splash

3:35 PM, Jul 24, 2008

Stanback was a 4-star recruit coming out of high school; top-20 (18,19) small forward by rivals and scout.com and a rivals150 player (#69). He was the only other player signed in the class with Kevin Love, so clearly he was very highly regarded. However, as has been noted, he didn't get much playing time and was generally considered a bust in Westwood because he couldn't play defense well enough for Howland.

I wouldn't consider him a program changing recruit. Steven Gray and Daniel Hackett were rated higher than he is, and I wouldn't consider either of them program changers. Also recall, Justin Holiday was rated as the #24 SF in the country, and he's definitely not a program changer, but could turn into a solid contributor.

If you could combine Stanback's offense and Holiday's defense, then you'd have someone special.

Posted by MT Husky

3:44 PM, Jul 24, 2008

Very perfectly stated Splash. Nice work.

Posted by Sittingdawg

4:22 PM, Jul 24, 2008

Yes, great info, thanks.

Posted by Cougfan

7:04 PM, Jul 24, 2008

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/rise-and-fall-pac10-program-review-44496

Here is a look at the rise and decline of programs in the PX. Interesting to say the least.

My take is that duh, the WSU program is on the rise--although I don't envision this year being nearly as good as the two previous, but the next 4 or 5 should see continued improvement.

The uw program, although down the last couple of years, should be on the rise this year with some veteran players and some strong recruits. I think it is too soon to say they are on the decline unless they struggle this year. This is the year for Romar--a great man, but if he does not find success this year, he could be in serious trouble with the fans.

UofA is also a program that is not yet on the decline. Until they don't make an NCAA tourney, they are still a top tier program.

And, without mentioning names, why do you only criticize people from other schools when they make typos or grammatical errors. At least be consistent and criticize your own.

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