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June 19, 2008 3:51 PM

Gottlieb high on Huskies

Posted by Bob Condotta

Could the Huskies finish as high as second in the Pac-10 next season?

Doug Gottlieb of ESPN thinks so, including the Huskies in his list of teams that shouldn't be overlooked next season.

Gottlieb concludes by writing "look for UW to compete with Arizona for the No. 2 spot (behind UCLA) in the Pac-10.''

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Posted by mike

5:35 PM, Jun 19, 2008

woo hoo!

Posted by SnohomishRick

5:53 PM, Jun 19, 2008

Jeez, Meat will have a seizure if he reads that someone is picking the Dawgs over his Cats.

Just take deep breaths big fella. Suck down some more Lute koolaid and relax. You'll be okay.

Posted by UW Alum

7:21 PM, Jun 19, 2008

I think Gottlieb should submit for a drug test because even though I might be the biggest Husky fan out there, I'd say there's about a 5% chance of them finishing 2. Relying on Frosh doesn't work (Hawes, pondexter, nelson, oliver) unless that Frosh is someone like OJ Mayo, Derrick rose, Beasley or Love (and the UW doesn't have a player of that ilk coming in). UW will finish no better than middle of the pack and may or may not make the dance (i tend to agree with Lunardi, UW on the bubble).

Posted by give me a break

8:22 PM, Jun 19, 2008

UW ALUM, keep smoking your crack. I love this, i absolutely love this, you and meatball, keep underestimating us..... man this is the same setup as a few years ago w/ NROB and BROY, when no one had heard of us. At worst we will be 4th, behind UCLA and ASU, ARE YOU GUYS DUMB? UofA, i dont care what their roster says, is all on paper. USC is unproven. Dawgs are unproven. remember that year meatty? we beat you guys 3 straight times cause you underestimate us. KEEP IT COMING meatty and UW ALUM. we do suck. we are gonna be 10th. keep underestimating us. boy this is gonna be great, i hope u all think we're worse than OSU. Then when SR brockman w/ his finally experienced supporting cast and some extra scoring from the freshman come play you.... oh man.......(winks) only time will tell, and now you're just making husky nation even more excited because this is how we got into the sweet16 ans eventually a number 1 seed.....who are the UW huskies again? i dont mind hearing that at alll.....

Posted by Raul

10:19 PM, Jun 19, 2008

Gottliebís (who I typically donít like) analysis wasnít based on incoming freshman. Itís an interesting way to look at it. The Huskies are a team last year who beat UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Oregon. They took WSU to the wire twice, including double overtime on the road, had the game-winning shot against Pitt waived off, and took Stanford to the wire on the road. They return 8 of their top 10 guys from that team, including their best player (Brockman) and players with upside to make big strides over this year (Pondexter, Overton, MBA, Holiday to an extent). They also obviously add a couple freshman who are expected to make contributions (but not be relied upon). Second place may be generous, but this team does have they type of returning talent (Gottliebís main point) and incoming talent, that doesnít make 2nd place a ridiculous thought.

Posted by IBC2991

10:20 PM, Jun 19, 2008

Gottlieb is the least credible of ESPN's analysts, if Katz or Lunardi were saying this I'd be much more impressed.

Case-in-point; Gottlieb sand-bagged against Stanford and WSU last year, called them overrated likely 1st-round NCAA upset victims. Both teams made the Sweet-16.

Gottlieb knows the Big-12 fairly well, he played at Oklahoma State, but he is cluess about the Pac-10. The only thing he gets right about the Pac-10 every year is picking UCLA to win it. (Which is what everyone does, rightfully so.)

Posted by junkman

10:58 PM, Jun 19, 2008

think a case can be made for the Dawgs finishing 2nd. The main reason being the Pac10 next year is not going to look anything like last season - with all the departures to the NBA it is a watered down league. There is talent coming in but not as good as what's being lost. The top 3 teams from last year - UCLA, WSU, and Stanford - are all going to take a dive in talent level as will Cal and possibly USC (although UCLA might just be reloading). ASU was a surprise last year but I don't see any reason why the Huskies can't be as good as them next year. And UA will once again play 5 guys and wear down in the end - they will be in the mix but will miss Bayless bigtime.

With some improved FT's and contributions from IT and Suggs the Huskies should be an improved team - not great but improved enough to be 2nd in a weaker Pac10. I'm not predicting it but with the Lopez bros gone and the Cougs stellar seniors gone the league is probably as wide open as its been in a long time. I am pumped to see VO and IT in the backcourt together - that will be exciting.

Posted by Fudazz

5:50 AM, Jun 20, 2008

Next year is really going to say alot about the coaches in the Pac 10. Spots 2 through 9 are all up for grabs. Its really going to depend on which coach can put his together first, and get them playing with efficiency. With 8 returning players, I like the dawgs chances of finishing 2nd or 3rd, but I would probably put my money on a 4th or 5th place finish.

Posted by Alex in Harlem

6:00 AM, Jun 20, 2008

You hockey pucks who doubt the Dawgs. Too much returning talent for a team that came very close last year. Finish: Top 4. 2nd? Possibly. Gottlieb might be right.

Posted by Elimno

10:24 AM, Jun 20, 2008

Brockman listed as player that might do something:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=glockner_andy&id=3439704

Posted by Dave " The Meatball" Armistead

11:26 AM, Jun 20, 2008

Funny stuff from Gottlieb- like most of you have recongized he is basically the towel boy when it comes to projections. Go ahead and believe him; 99% of the respected sports analysts have the Huskies finishing at best 5th. What were you shown from last year that really makes you believe the Huskies can finish 2nd? Seriously, think long and hard before responding because I would love to here some reasoning. If you guys made a statement and won the CBI tourney, and had some positive momentum that things were going to change, then the Meatball might believe some of the things that Husky posters post. But I've been trolling on here for a few years now, and the unrealistic visions always populate the blogs during the summer. In January, everyone starts talking about "next year we'll get this recruit and we'll be back!".... You guys are in the midst of a vicious cycle.

I ask, why not embrace your mediocracy? Once you guys admit the Huskies are a middle of the tier program at best, the basketball season will be much more enjoyable.

Posted by bham540

11:35 AM, Jun 20, 2008

I am pretty excited by the way Romar is recruiting. I was just thinking about the team in a couple of years where we have all players on the floor, besides Thomas or Overton, 6'6" or taller and freakishly athletic. At the very least, it will be entertaining to watch. Skuggs, MBA, Gant, Wilcox, Garcia, Holiday, Breshers all these guys are HUGE and QUICK. Brockman is one of my favorite players ever. He plays the game the way I would want my children to play, but I can't help but be excited the day he passes the reins to this new team of athletes.

Posted by Ziasudra

12:22 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Well, Meaty, it's good to hear from you again. I suspect that the reason you need so badly for your team to be superior, is that you are painfully aware of your own personal mediocrity. We Dawgs recognize the underachievement of the BB team, but we don't have to consider that an indictment of our personal worth.
And, I suspect the coming season will be very enjoyable - more than you will admit.

Posted by Romarville86

1:21 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Nothing worst than a guy who types in third person. Meatball when was the last time you made it out of the basement of your parents house? I'll take gottliebs predictions over yours anyday of the week even though any sports fan should know predictions only look good until the season starts and everybody realizes there are no sure things. Let me make a prediction, no wildcats will be 1st team pac-10. Budinger has gotten worst each year and his lack of intensity on the defensive side will drop him to the bottom of the 1st round of the draft next year.

Posted by Dave " The Meatball" Armistead

2:01 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Romarville- I figured you wouldn't have an intelligent response why someone would actually believe that the Huskies could place Top 2 in the Pac-10. Basement? How childish.

As for Budinger, not sure what "has been getting worst each year" is supposed to mean, but try educating yourself. His numbers all improved as a Sophmore, and I will go out on a limb and say that not only will he be on the All-Pac 10 1st team, but he will be Pac-10 Player of the year. Jordan Hill and Brandon Jennings will also be either 1st or 2nd Team All-Pac 10.

Brockman should be Pac-10 1st team, but since he is heavily relied upon I actually envision him to be plagued by injuries much of the year. It's too bad too, cuz Brocks would have done great next year in Europe.

Posted by 4REAL

2:20 PM, Jun 20, 2008

MEAT -

This is especially for you buddy:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3454157

Posted by Chris

2:56 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Well if Brockman does play overseas next year, it sounds like he'll be able to get some good advice from Jennings leading the way.

Posted by merseybeat

2:59 PM, Jun 20, 2008

meatball
UA is really good at basketbal thanks to Lute and you have a starting 5 that can play with anyone

and i personally think on history UA should beat UW every year in basketball but Romar has made that a little more difficult for you Wildcats

Posted by Dave " The Meatball" Armistead

3:19 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Let's just wait and see what happened with Jennings last test, but obviously, this type of article does not bode well for that young man. Whether or not Jennings makes the grade, the Arizona program will thrive and survive. Albeit, we'd be stronger with him and I see him as a key to our deep toureny success next year, but it would not be the end of the world. End of the world would have been Lute Olson not coming back, Bayless and Budinger in the NBA, Wise and Horne transferring, and Jennings not qualifying. If that were the case, I would project my Cats to do where I see your Huskies finishing in 7th place in the Pac-10.

Let's be patient and see what happens. My guess is that he is just nervous about his tests, and that he will in fact qualify and be an Arizona Wildcat this year.

Posted by Patton

4:21 PM, Jun 20, 2008

I thought ASU would be everyones pick to finish 2nd behind UCLA. I could see UW and UA fighting out for 3rd though.

Posted by mattysimone

5:48 PM, Jun 20, 2008

ohhhh thats great news about jennings!!!!!

Posted by naterob4

9:27 PM, Jun 20, 2008

MEATBALL...YAHHHHHHHH!!! I told you that Jennings was too dumb to get into college..The guy can't even get into UofA he must be a real SCHOLAR...I think he's gonna have a hard time playing oversees...Jennings, I heard is starting to be compared to Dajuan Wagner, OUCH!!

As for Chase I had read an article somewhere that in one on one workouts against Joe Alexander, Alexander was schooling him, thats why he went back to Zona..but i'll give it to Chase, at least he didn't do a Marcus Williams...

Posted by naterob4

9:41 PM, Jun 20, 2008

I read on Espn.com that theres a rumor of Leondro Barbosa to Portland for Martell Webster and the 13th pick...Grant Hill see Yah...I think Tell in phoenix with Nash and the Diezel in the middle might Jumpstart his career....I think he could just stand at the 3-line and wait for Nash to drive and Kick or wait for the Diezel to get double teamed and to get a kick out pass...

Posted by jed

9:51 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Meatball,

I agree that with the starting lineup UA has they should be capable of finishing very high in the Pac-10 if not winning it, but there is no guarantee. They have had great talent for at least 5 or 6 years and often underachieve. The recurring problems of poor defense, not enough bench or depth, injuries and seemingly a lot of conflict and poor team chemistry hurts them. You won't like this but honestly I would be more confident they would finish #1 or #2 in the Pac-10 next year if Ben Howland was the coach.

Posted by AA3489384SFDS

10:36 PM, Jun 20, 2008

LMAO .... 4REAL clowned meatball sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad, thats so funny. meatball's so g@y.

Posted by DSAKJF;JF

10:44 PM, Jun 20, 2008

AND JED AND EVERYONE! MEATBAL HAS BEEN "COOKED/ROASTED"!!!!!

Posted by Splash

11:47 PM, Jun 20, 2008

Bob,

I thought the recruiting update interview you put together for the football blog recently was really good. Any chance of something similar for basketball? I enjoyed the more in-depth analysis of personal connections the guys from the recruiting sites shared.

Posted by Randy

8:45 AM, Jun 21, 2008

Come on folk, there's nothing in that article on Jennings that isn't obvious. He's only indicating what he might do IF he doesn't qualify. He's not saying he will go to Europe by choice. Now if he did, that would really change some things.

Posted by Royal

3:48 PM, Jun 21, 2008

#1 I thought Gottlieb was an idiot when it came to knowing or anticipating what might go on in the PAC-10?

#2. Brockman will play in the NBA
(Probably not a lot but he will likely play)

#3 Jennings looking into playing overseas in interesting.

#4 I didnt know Jennings is from the LA area. That might mean that 3 of the top guards in the country are all from the same city. Holiday, Nixon(?) and Jennings.

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10:31 PM, Jun 21, 2008

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Posted by Ziasudra

9:47 AM, Jun 22, 2008

Actually, I thought WSU-ers could count to ten, since that's how many fingers they have. If they don't wear shoes, maybe twenty. . . .

Posted by flanc3333

2:52 AM, Jun 23, 2008

o Huskies, thanks for your thoughts

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