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March 30, 2008 4:15 PM

Bennett says no to Indiana

Posted by Bob Condotta

Since this has been a topic of conversation on here, I will link to a report that WSU coach Tony Bennett says he has turned down an inquiry from Indiana and will stay at Washington State.

Here's the story from the Spokesman-Review quoting him saying that "I am not going to pursue the Indiana job'' and that he has no other offers at the moment.

UPDATE --- Here's our story on the same topic with Bud Withers of our staff noting that Bennett "stopped short'' of saying he won't listen to any other overtures this off-season.


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Posted by Geno

4:42 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Bob...just saw your post on this subject. I have no idea why you would donate as much of your time as you did to WSU’s cause on this subject but I thank you and Husky Nation for thinking of the Cougar’s best interest.

Sorry UW has to have a crappy coach locked for an eternity but hey, that’s life. When you have idiots in charge (your AD) they can kill a program can’t they.

4:27 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Jed….there is no mistaken that Bennett’s leaving WSU this year would be better than next but you also have to realize that Bennett is young in basketball coaches years….way young. Bennett is only 38 years old…and he has many many years ahead of him to make his mark in the coaching ranks. He is not a player making the most of his freshman and sophomore years after one…two great years in the college ranks and hoping for a high NBA draft pick. Tony can stay at WSU, lead to many sweet 16’s…elite 8’s. final 4, and ultimately be crowned champs and STILL be considered for any elite basketball coaching job that opens up during the next 5….6 years. Hell, in another 5 years Tony will be ONLY 43 and still have his mental capacity for yet another 20 great years of coaching should he choose.

Lute Olsen is what…74…75 years old and Tony is 38. Come on people, give me a break when you think Tony’s best shot at a high profile job is NOW??

Tony isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future. He made promises to incoming recruits....he will keep them. Make no mistake, there will come a time when Tony packs his bags and moves on, after all he is from the Midwest…that’s where his roots are, that’s where his family lives. He will return but now – hardly. He started something special at WSU and he will continue to see this through for a while longer. He is totally unlike your coach Romar who is ‘all about the money and too hell with the players, the staff, the fans, and the school…as long as I have my money I am happy’



Posted by Romarville86

5:19 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Yeah our coach is terrible.

2 sweetsixteens> 1

Posted by LUIGI

5:25 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Geno, my boy, our "crappy" coach is going to whip "little tony" 's behind next year and beyond. I for one, am very happy "little tony" is staying at WSU. Revenge is a dish best served cold and we Huskies are very much looking forward to getting some cold payback. Heck, we almost got it this year against your boy's best team, and it all goes downhill from here for your boys. By the way, after the Cougs embarrassed themselves (and the rest of the PAC 10) on the national stage last Thursday, I think it's safe to say "little tony" won't have too many job offers coming his way. They Coug'ed it again!! No surprise there.

Posted by 206er

5:45 PM, Mar 30, 2008

what an idiot!!! he needs to get out of that farm town as soon as he can. jeez.

how's recruiting going for our dawgs?

Posted by Geno

5:52 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Romarville86...you might be too young to know but Romar's best years were with players HE DIDN'T RECRUIT.

Think about it....if you have the capacity.


Posted by Geno

5:57 PM, Mar 30, 2008

LUIGI....ZERO6'er....as always, your arguements (if you want to call them) are weak as is your moniker.

In case you didn't know:
The word "monicker" or more rarely, "monikker" is, among clowns, most often intentionally misspelled, with a 'c' in accordance with clown tradition that some words are inherently funny (and hence to be preferred over 'unfunny' words). The "clown world" has widely embraced "monicker" as equivalent to a stage name or pseudonym. A monicker is considered by a professional clown to be sacrosanct by the traditional code of non-infringement. The monicker is considered to be an attribute of the character of the clown and not of the performer. Monicker, in clown usage, can generally be considered synonymous with the terms "clown name" and "Professional name". In declining use, it may mean a clown performer's personal nickname, (e.g. "Joseph Grimaldi's monicker was Joey.") rather than the name of the performer's clown.

Posted by WAZZU

5:58 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Yeah, if the Sweet 16 is "Cougin' It" I'll take that anytime. How's your CBI bracket doing?? UW is WSU's bitch.....7 and counting

Posted by mattysimone

7:01 PM, Mar 30, 2008

hes not going there because didnt his sister have a falling out at indiana when she was the womens coach? id be surprised if he went to cal? someone big will offer him. he better take something before he coaches another game at wazzu or he may regret it. maybe he really will hold on for wisconsin?

Posted by grant

7:05 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Geno,
You couldn't be more wrong, as is usual for you "contributions".
Romar paid his dues at small schools (Pepperdine, St. Loius) so he could go back "to his roots" at UW... where he was a player. Just like Tony Bennett will want to take the Wisconsin job if it ever becomes available...to get back to his roots, as you said. So no more faulty Romar bashing from you. It's not about the money...his "roots" are just richer than yours.

Bennett is staying, congratulations, but Low, Weaver, and Cowgill are not. have fun watching Baynes foul out and cry his way through another season while Rochestie is shut down by opposing guards who will no longer view him as the third option he was this year. A coach can implement any system, but if his players can't deliver, it won't matter what he does. WSU just lost all its best players, so who steps in? Harmeling? He's a poor man's Ryan Appleby. Who else even played for you guys this year? Besides in garbage time?

As for recruitiong...TB recruited NONE of your current 'best team ever" starting five...his dad did it all for him. So how can you knock Romar for not recruiting guys like Will Conroy or Brandon Roy? At least he coached Roy his entire career, and not just the final two after all the growing pains were over like Tony Bennett when he took over from daddy. As for Romar's recruits, he turned Bobby Jones into a draft pick and a defensive force. Seems they had a decent run together. Two sweet 16s is better than one. Oh and Spencer Hawes, B-Roy, Nate Robinson, and Martell Webster were all first round draft picks. How many of Tony's players are even in the NBA? Weaver is the only one with a chance. But he didn't recruit him, so according to your standards, that doesn't count.

Please just stop posting your misinformation here and try researching something before you comment. Otherwise, go hang with your fellow Coug pals at the Spokesman-Review blog. They love bad english and ignorant ranting over there, you'd fit right in.
(Seriously, do they teach english at WSU, or is that optional? Reading some of that was painful).

Posted by JCOUGAR

7:51 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Grant,

TB was the one responsible for recruiting Weaver, Low and Cowgill while he was an assistant at WSU under his dad. Get off your high horse and do some research of your own, retard.

Oh and by the way, your spelling and grammar is immaculate! I wish I could have gone to UW so they could teach me how to pompously comment on an internet blog!

I wonder how long you spend proof-reading your comments so you can take shots at the lack of proper schoolin' all of us farm boys out east receive.

Grow up. If you want to play "my school is better than your school," I'd be happy to remind you about the outcomes of the last 3 of 4 apple cups and of course of the last 7 times our schools met on the B-Ball court. WE OWN YOU.

GO COUGS!

Posted by CougNation

8:17 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Hi Grant ,

How goes the work release?

Now, I understand I shouldn't expect an answer from you this evening. It's understandable that the halfeway house shuts down your internet access after 8:00pm.

I'll bet you never attended Dawgville, and couldn't get in if you cheated. (You know, cheating, like your football program)

Face it, your athletic department and programs are a train wreck!

But, go ahead and continue to make excuses for poor performance, it's the Husky way!

Posted by SedroDawg

8:36 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Dear CougNation,

Please don't pick on Grant. We all had slow kids on our team growing up, and we learned to let them think they contributed.

Well, Grant is our Purple & Gold slow kid. Yes, he lives in a world he has invented in his mind, but at the end of the day he's harmless.

Lots of wordy postings with little grounding in the actual athletic world. Poor Grant probably never made a team after CYO ball.

Give him a break.

Posted by grant

8:52 PM, Mar 30, 2008

JCougar,
3 out of 4 is not bad. Please remind me how the 100 year history of the Apple Cup has played out...I forget how many times we have beaten you. You own 3 years, we own the century.
Don't pretend TB was doing all the recruiting work. Low went to Wazzu, sight unseen, because of the reputation of DICK Bennett, not Tony. Tony had no reputation. The head coach is the primary recruiter, assistants watch games and take notes.

Coug Nation,
You know more than I do about not getting into UW...and work release rules and regulations. I'll give you that. Congratulations.

I'm just responding to the most annoying/misinformed poster on this blog who "real" Cougs claim to despise. I guess you're both little Geno wannabes...Not sure why you Cougs are all so upset, your coach turned down one of the best basketball programs in the history of college basketball to stay in Pullman. Maybe it's because none of you has an answer for who replaces Low, Weaver, and Cowgill. Party's over in Pullman, sorry.

Posted by TB's Stayin

9:32 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Wow... so much hostility... Low was recruited by TB... and Weaver was recruited by DB because of the relationship he had with Weavers dad.... Cowgill was recruited by DB and TB... TB went to watch Weaver in Texas and was present when he gave his verbal... TB is responsible for Rochestie and Baynes was TB's doing as well... Do a bit of research before all you start to run your mouths. The Cougs have been better than the Huskies over the last 3 years and there is nothing that any of you Dawgs can say to disprove it... Romar has been doing absolutely nothing with his recruits but underperform and now it is TB's chance to prove that he can make it happen with his guys. No doubt that the cougs will take a little dip but i doubt they will plummet to the lowly depths of the CBI... That must have really been embarrassing! Go Cougs and do some research before you talk a bunch of nonsense.

Posted by Wolf!

10:36 PM, Mar 30, 2008

It's not like the Bennet's had to woo Low or anything. He just wanted to play in the P10 and would go wherever he got an offer.

Posted by bomberboy

10:49 PM, Mar 30, 2008

I assume that Bennet has little interest in moving on or he would take the job now. Bennett did a nice job that lst two years but he has hardly reached the elite level in the PAC-10 let alone the country. Check Bennet's record against the top two PAC-10 teams the last two years (UCLA, UCLA, Oregon 06-07, Stanford this year) WSU was a sparkling 0-9 aginst those teams. That is the book on the slow pace...with a fairly veteran team Bennett beats the team he should and does NOT beat any above him. I think he is a good coach, but UCLA will own the conference and WSU will contue at best to be upper division but NOT in the race. He is a solid coach. DOn't forget WSU lost 7 conference games this year, finished 7th in the conference in FG% against (defense?). One would think that they were closer to the middle of the PAC than the top.

If I were a coug fan, I would be happy he is staying but would get a grip.

Posted by Kristian

11:19 PM, Mar 30, 2008

Wolf! - Low was actually recruited by who? Oh, Roy Williams and KANSAS! And you can't call losing to UNC in Charlotte Cougin' it. Sure, they didn't play up to their potential, but look at what Stanford did against Texas.... Big deal, we may not win the PAC every year, but only one team can be first and champion each time, so I guess everyone is disappointed. BTW, who cares about the last century and UW athletics, its a new century in case no one noticed... maybe Y2K had you guys livin in 1999.

Posted by unfading passion

12:48 AM, Mar 31, 2008

Grant, I like your style.

Posted by Husky1

1:41 AM, Mar 31, 2008

Like a classic coug, Tony is setting his sights low once again by turning down a once in a lifetime offer. Have fun in Pullman! Loved seeing the cougs get spanked on a national scale!

Posted by lassidawg

5:49 AM, Mar 31, 2008

You all are living in a fantasy world if you think you are going to replicate the last two years with next years team. You will be glad if your team makes a post season tourny. I think we Dawg fans are speaking from experieince after making the Sweet 16 two years in a row and then losing the core of the team to Graduation. I think both teamsare pretty similiar, and it is far more likely that they Cougs don't make it next yearthan they do. Neither of these schools are UCLA, Arizona, or Stanford, so they relay on kids that have been in the program for 3 or 4 years. WSU won't be as crappy has they have been in the past, but they won't be anything like the last two years. Speaking of the past I think the season is over so we are all living in the past, start talking about what is coming up for WSU. First on the list keeping the coach.
Coug'd it in the UNC game may be a bit strong, but they sure played like crap.

Posted by Chester

6:53 AM, Mar 31, 2008

How many kids has Bennet recruited from this state? And they call themselves Washington State University? At least my team has some kids that went to high school here...must be that most kids from this state know what a s---hole Pullman is.

Posted by bd

7:47 AM, Mar 31, 2008

The venom here is pointless and unintelligent. Husky fans, please: WSU was just able to retain a guy who appears on the shortest of short lists for the nation's top coach. He rejected $2.5M/yr to stay in Pullman for $800K.
What is your problem?
Who cares if he doesn't have any top in-state kids? WSU has been playing catch up with the UW and GU, so that makes sense. Who cares who recruited whom? For those that know anything about college basketball recruiting, you know that individual recruiting can take any number of shapes depending on staff - sometimes the ass'ts do the leg work and the HC is the closer, sometimes the HC does nothing, sometimes it's split among the coaches by position.
Who cares if WSU will not be as good next year? That's what happens - things are cyclical. I don't believe WSU is headed down to the cellar, though. The league will be down overall, but with Bennett's retention, WSU's chances of remaining near the top are solid. No one wants to see what happened when Sampson left.
But, holy cow: just back off of the tired farm and booze jokes.

Posted by lassidawg

8:39 AM, Mar 31, 2008

As a Dawg fan I would love to see Bennett leave Kent stay.
It is impossible to say that WSU will make the next step an be a perenial contender to make the Dance. So far the pattern is the exact same as what the Dawgs went through a few years ago, and it has been the same for both schools back into the 80's a couple of nice runs in the tournament and then a gradual return to normalcy (not making the tournament). I am guessing WSU will be in that boat for the next couple of years, and hopefully the Dawgs can return. We are in more a of a normal period for Dawg basketball.
Before you assume he is staying there is still one more job that may interest him LSU.

Posted by Coug4Life

9:44 AM, Mar 31, 2008

There is one big difference between the Husky downfall (freefall) after losing your core group of guys and what will happen to the Cougs next year. That difference is Tony Bennett. Romar is not a great coach...a great recruiter? Yes, but not a great coach. TB is a great coach. His system and teaching made our seniors what they are and he will do the same with the next group. Once Romar lost his talent he could not reproduce them due to his lack of coachching/teaching.

Posted by Dwight K. Schrute

9:52 AM, Mar 31, 2008

I agree, anyone can see that UW had more talent than they showed this year. Appleby could be a deadly player if he had developed ANY other aspect of his game, other than shooting threes, over the last three years. As good as Brockman is, he does much the same as Apps and just does what he has always been good at a little better each year but never really expands his skill set. Wallace was a pretty big recruit that never amounted to much of anything. Overton, Dentmon, Pondexter all show flashes but seem to lack any real idea of what they are trying to do out there...again I blame coaching. Free throws...nuf said there. It is clear that coaching and teaching is the primary problem.

Posted by Coug4Life

9:59 AM, Mar 31, 2008

And if you will notice, when the Cougs lose they ALWAYS know what went wrong, where they broke down, what they need to fix, and how to fix it. Just listen to their press conferences and it is clear that they are all on the same page. They have a plan and when they don't execute it, the lose. Conversely, listen to the Huskies post-game comments and it is as if they are all clueless. They don't have a solid gameplan going in so they have no idea what happened, why they lost, or how to fix it. It is like they are gambling, rolling the dice and hoping for the best.

Posted by common sense

11:12 AM, Mar 31, 2008

Common sense says;UW is in seattle and WSU is in pullman. Enough Said

Common sense say: WSU is the worse sports program in the pac-10. History and stats speak for themselves.

Questions Coug fans should ask themselves:
-How many rose bowls have the cougs won since I have been alive?
-How many Pas-10 titles has the basketball team won since i have benn alive?
-Have I been lying to myself that WSU has a chance to be a great sports school?

I HOPE YOU COUGS WHO ARE ON A HUSKY BLOG CAN START MAKING SEEING THE LIGHT.

Posted by Common Sense?

11:20 AM, Mar 31, 2008

with a post full of grammatical errors, common sense should say "I'm an Idiot" Go back to Montlake Technical College and see if you can become any more less intelligent than you already are, if that is even possible. What an abomination!

Posted by lassidawg

11:52 AM, Mar 31, 2008

If we could go back an look at what everyone was saying 2 years ago I am sure that most were saying the same things about Romar that they are now about Bennett. Bennett seems to be a great coach, but we just don't know for sure, so it seems pssible that two years from now the Cougs could be at the exact point the dawgs are at now.
The two teams are similiar in that the expectations are going to be high because they have Rochestie and Baines coming back. Keep in mind the Dawgs had Brockman and Dentmon coming back with the a top recruiting class and look what has happened since. My point is it is entirely possible that the Cougs will go through a down period for the next couple of years.
It is good to have the belief your team will remain on top, but I think history shows that it won't. The chemistry on this Coug team was something that won't be replicated for years.
We shall also see how good bennett really is.

Posted by 206er

12:15 PM, Mar 31, 2008

enough of this crap! let's talk dawgs! i'm curious to see some go-to moves that mba can develop in the offseason. i'm excited to see venoy's improved communication with others and how that might improve our offense. let's hope the two headed monster of j holiday and qiuncy at small forward will be productive. i think they compliment each other well. it will also be interesting to see how minutes shake out between joel smith and suggs at shooting guard. i'm not sure how thomas will fit into the rotation, but i'm sure he'll find a way.

also, hoping for some good news from peyton siva any time now. i was watching an interview with him and he said he favors up-tempo pac ten teams. so far we and arizona are the only ones who have offered him and fit that bill. and arizona's already snagged abdul ghaddy at pg, and plus they've got a screwed up coaching situation. let's hope he makes the right choice soon!

Posted by bd

12:17 PM, Mar 31, 2008

Lassidawg - but don't you think that TB and Romar are tremendously differently coaches? Someone earlier pointed out that, when the Cougs lose, the know exactly where the breakdown(s) occurred. I would say that seems to be true. It's a system, less dependent on the individual talent (hence, this year's team - do you really think that Cowgill could have started and excelled anywhere else in the PX, except OSU, based on his individual talents?) The fist is stronger than the five fingers, and all that stuff, blah, blah, blah.
Romar, on the other hand, seems to be pretty enamored with getting the "best" athletes/players and then working things around them (hence, a sickening number of outgoing transfers and high roster turnover).
I'm not trying to pick any fights, but it seems to be that that's a major difference between the two.

Posted by mike

1:52 PM, Mar 31, 2008

Cougars are funny..

Two years of being college basketball fans and they think they are experts.. Sorry, but with the players the Coogs have lots, their average recruting classes, and the strength of the pac-10, they wil easily be back near the bottom of the conference.

And Romar's peak was still a whole lot better than Bennett's peak, so I'm not sure what reasonable argument Cougars have that Bennett > Romar. Maybe I need to remember that Cougars didnt watch basketball before 2006.

Not to mention Romar actually recruited a lot of players on his best teams (Simmons, Jones, Williams, Brockman, Appleby, etc.) and spent three to four years developing the others (Roy, Conroy, NateRob).

Bennett's stock will never be this high again, not sure why he doesn't take the money and run.

Posted by UdistDawg

3:10 PM, Mar 31, 2008

Mike - Since when did Appleby become a good player? If he is your example of a good division 1 player I can see why our program is in the crapper. Slow, no defense, poor assist ratio, can't rebound, oh.....but he can shoot the 3 if playing a poor defensive team? Yeah, a great, well rounded player! Get a clue...

Posted by Mike D

3:36 PM, Mar 31, 2008

I've been reading a lot about WSU's alledgedly great class coming in...is it really that good at all? If you look at the rankings, there is a huge discrepancy between ESPN and Scout / Rivals. I really can't pinpoint why, either. For example:

ESPN Top 150 ratings: UW has three (2 88s and an 82) to WSU's two (1 90 and an 86). Missing on this list is arguably UW's best recruit, Isaiah Thomas, who isn't listed I'm assuming because he's technically not a HS senior.

This is what all my Coug buddies refer to when they claim they've got a better player (Klay Thompson) than any of the UW recruits.

But then you go to the top 2 recruiting services:

Rivals:

WSU: 5 3-star recruits, only one of which is rated (Harthurn / 5.7)
UW: 3 4-star recruits and 1 3-star, all of which are rated (all 5.8 except Turner, a 5.7)

Scout:

WSU: 1 4-star recruit (Harthurn #20 SG) and 2 3-star recruits (Thompson #35 SF and Watson NR)

UW: 4 4-star recruits (Suggs #10 SG, Turner #12 SG, Breshers #26 PF and Thomas once again NR.)

Reason I mention this is because as I have said, all these writers continue to point to Bennett's class coming in as a reason he's staying, commonly noting it's a great class. Really? Great by WSU's standards? Not even ranked top 25 by Scout, to UW's #15, which I kind of felt was almost a mediocre year for the Dawgs recruiting-wise.

Posted by Mike D

3:45 PM, Mar 31, 2008

...And for anyone wanting to know why Bennett is staying...it's easy, and I'm sure I'm echoing a lot of previous comments. He can do no wrong in Pullman. He can live in a palace there on $800K a year. He can afford to have one, if not several rebuilding years. In other words, he can lose and it won't affect his job status. He doesn't have that luxury if he goes to an established program. He won't be afforded an opportunity to rebuild. Those schools will expect him to win immediately. In his third year as a head coach, he is reluctant (or scared) to take on that challenge this early. Look at Quinn Snyder...where'd he go? Exactly. Good career move, Tony. We know you're content with sweet 16s. They'll name a street after you in Pullman before long.

Posted by mike

4:41 PM, Mar 31, 2008

UdistDawg...

I didn't say appleby was a great player, actually if you read my post I didn't do anything more than include him as a guy on one of UW's better teams (05-06). And he actually played 23 minutes a game for that team which finished second in the pac-10 and reached the sweet 16 so he couldn't have been that bad. And how many school records did he set playing just three years? Of course the guy wasn't a great player, but he was a good role player who was probably asked to do too much at the end of his career.

Let me know if i need to use smaller words and i'll re-post so you can better understand.

Posted by UdistDawg

5:34 PM, Mar 31, 2008

Mike D - Where did Quinn Snyder go? Are you kidding? It's very well know in college hoops where he went. He was a coke hound........he was incapable of functioning withoput a keeper at press events from the get go at Missouri. He scared the hell out of the athletic department. His life flushed........It had nothing to do with his coaching ability. He couldn't stay sober.....

Posted by UdistDawg

5:40 PM, Mar 31, 2008

Mike - We know you're familiar with smaller. Just glance down......Appleby was carried by that team, and records don't mean a lot when the best you can do is play in the CBI do they. Lastly, can you send back the socks I left at your house?

Posted by lassidawg

6:33 PM, Mar 31, 2008

All I am saying is that two years ago, there weren't a whole lot of complainers about Romar, but there are a few now (I am not one of them). Bennett may or may not be a better coach, time will tell, two years with an experienced group is hard to judge. Now that expectations are higher we may find out the answer.
On another note, too bad for Stanford. :)

Posted by Tony B

10:09 PM, Mar 31, 2008

People tend to forget that the senior class was not a highly recruited class. No McDonald's All Americans...not even close. Tony is a coach. He gets the best from his players whenever they step on the floor.
To the guy who said they "Couged it" in the NCAA tournament. Guess I'd take a blip in the Sweet 16 than against Valpo in the CPR...I mean, CBI...uh, what the hell is the name of that tournament that nobody has heard of?

Posted by johnnycougar

9:13 AM, Apr 01, 2008

Hey Mike D, sad to say it but you are pretty spot on. The Coug recruits are not great by any standards except their own. Also your comments about Tony have some subtle jabs in them but they are pretty sound.
The thinking here in Ptown is essentially if TB can coach nobodies to the Sweet 16, imagine what he can do with players that have the same work ethic and character but are more talented. I'm pretty sure that only Low was a 3 star recruit from that great senior class, and this year we've got five coming in with Thompson & Harthun supposedly better than any recruit we've had in years.
If WSU and UW try to get into a recruiting war there is no question who will win. However, if the Cougs keep winning and UW keeps losing, that will change. But TB will never recruit a 5 star athlete that doesn't have the character or discipline to play Cougar style basketball. He gets the most from his players and we in Pullman would certainly be content to be an annual Sweet 16 contender with quality guys. Maybe the standards are lower here, or maybe we just aren't used to winning, and people can make fun of us for that if they wish, but in truth Pullman is a small town with small-town values and loyalty & honesty are more important than highly rated recruits. I don't mean to imply that UW is only taking 5 star athletes with character issues, I just wanted to say why WSU is very happy about their recruits.

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