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March 27, 2008 2:03 PM

More on Dollar and Sac State

Posted by Bob Condotta

Here's an updated story from today's Sacramento Bee on the head coaching vacancy at Sacramento State, mentioning UW assistant Cameron Dollar as one of the prime candidates for the job.

The story also mentions and quotes Joe Cravens as a possible candidate. Cravens also has UW ties, serving as an assistant under Andy Russo, who was coach from 1985-89.

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Posted by LA Husky

4:58 PM, Mar 27, 2008

I hope Cameron Dollar gets what he wants and if that means head coach at CSSACTO then so be it. Romar will find someone else, as he always does and the team will be OK. Whatever happens, it will be the right thing, either way.

Where is Andy Russo by the way?

Posted by Geno

6:50 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Alright Husky fans....the season is over the Cougars. I will, however, continue to have memories of Cougars running rampant on your little Dogs all season long – opps…sorry, the past THREE seasons long. You guys are losers….you need to stay losers.

By the way, how many saviors are due in next year?? I lose count…there are so many.

Posted by Tone

7:13 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Congrats to a great season for WSU, an exceptional coaching job by Bennet and hats off to the departing seniors who have left their legacy on this team.

However, WSU never stood a chance against UNC - not even close.

Posted by running rampant?

7:40 PM, Mar 27, 2008


I hate to rain on your parade, but two victories by a combined 7 points is hardly "running rampant" over a team. If you want an example that actually fits that phrase feel free to bring up last year's drubbing in Pullman, or, even better, what UNC did to your cougs tonight.

The cougs were good this season, they just weren't good enough to beat the really good teams like UNC, UCLA, Stanford and Arizona (oh, wait, that last one wasn't so good this season but swept the cougs anyway, bummer)

Posted by YES! cougs coug'd it!

8:12 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Forget rooting for the Pac10! I am just glad to see the cougs got WHACKED and made fools of themselves on national television! Enjoy the flight home, LOSERS! I at least figured you might make it interesting. But then again, only cougs can COUG IT like you guys! Way to choke on the national stage, LOSERS!

Posted by enjoy it geno

8:16 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Gosh, where are all of the loud mouthed cougars?

Now that this year is over, I can't wait for the world to right itself next year. WSU will suck at football and basketball. And they will suck hard. The football team was bad and has nothing to build upon -- at least UW has some up and coming talent and hope. And the cougs basketball team will soon be back on the bottom of the conference. (Especially when/if Bennett dumps your sorry butts.)

So, enjoy this wonderful 21 point embarrassment on the national stage. It's the last time the cougs will get to play victim to a real team on a national stage for a long, long, LONG time!!!

Cougs = losers! Always have, always will...

Posted by Geno

8:41 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Who here can claim the Huskies beat the Cougars the past few years in basketball. Do I see a raise of any arms….NO. You guys are losers in the state. How many times does someone have to remind you? And neither of you has posted how many saviors you have coming to town besides the retard Thomas…or whatever his name is. He’s forgettable even before he shows up – just like any other Husky.

Posted by Luigi

8:43 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Geno??? Geno???? Geno??? Is that the best you can do?? Your beloved Cougs and poor "little Tony" embarassed themselves and the entire Pac10 conference tonight. What a shame after a decent season. And too bad for your classy players, many of whom seem like good guys who have overachieved the last couple years. Well... get used to the feeling. You're going to see a lot of the same next year and following years. This loss also means "little Tony" is likely to stick around in Pullman as he won't be quite the hot commodity for coaching vacancies. We'll see how brilliant "little Tony" will do in a rebuilding situation. The tables will turn and the Huskies are going to have fun next year!!!

Posted by Geno

9:01 PM, Mar 27, 2008

I see every one of you are avoiding my questions but then again, being fans of the Husky Basketball team it is obvious why. You guys lost to VELAPORASIO, no, VELOPSAPOPO, no, VELOPEPPOPPS, no, you know, you guys lost to a nobody team most people can’t even remember who that was. Everyone in the office keeps trying to remember the team the Huskies lost to in the C-B-I but then again most ask WHO or WHAT IS THE C-B-I….and this leads into yet another subject about this new tourney for loser college teams that didn’t qualify for the NCAA or the NIT.

Keep up the great work Huskies…you are keeping offices around the Puget Sound amused.

Posted by uw dude

9:03 PM, Mar 27, 2008

i am a huge coug hater, and am really glad they lost today, and even more glad this group of seniors are finally gone. however, the 3 seniors that led the cougs to two miracle seasons have shown nothing but class throught ther careers and its hard for me to really say anything bad about them. i want to bash this team for getting beat badly but i cant. i actually felt bad when cowgill fouled out. also,as a husky fan i cant really justify talking trash as the huskies were absolutely dreadful this year. next year is a different story though. when the miracle ends the cougs inherit a team with the more typical coug roster. taylor and baynes will be the faces of a trash talking classless losing team and i will laugh everytime they lose... which will be alot. until then, i wish good luck to low, weaver and cowgill... they are what college athletics are all about.

Posted by geno's pathetic life

10:03 PM, Mar 27, 2008

where are you buddies coug4life, cougfan, and others?
21 point loss!!! Way to go losers! Way to COUG IT on national television!!!

Next year the cougs will stink in both football and basketball. And the year after that. And the year after that. And so it goes. The sun comes up, the sun sets, and the cougars suck. The world will return to normal very soon.

But hey, 25 years from now if you guys are good at anything again, can you please try not to embarrass the conference again? I mean, what 5 people watched UW make asses of themselves in that CBI nonsense. But you guys choked in front of millions!

You see, at UW, we've won on big stages -- multiple Rose Bowls, the Orange Bowl, national championships, etc. But the cougs... not so much. So, enjoy your brief time playing bridesmaid who got dumped at the reception (again). You'll not even be invited to another wedding for a long, long time!

The cougs COUG'D it as they always do!!!

Posted by geno's stupid question

10:09 PM, Mar 27, 2008

geno --

I think the reason nobody has responded to your question is that nobody even understands what the hell you mean. Seriously, dude. I think you are the only one who understands geno, geno. I'm not joking. I'd try to respond to your "great" insult, but it's tough to be offended when the quip doesn't even make sense. Maybe you should be on medication or something.

If your comment is a lame attempt to take a swipe at our players, then I'd be careful about casting stones on that front. It seems your football team is cleaning out the local jails to get enough bodies to field a team. Don't believe me, read the press. The cougars are having to take several rejects and criminals because they can't field a team otherwise! Nice program, fella!

Posted by Roger That

10:15 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Sorry to see the Cougs lose tonight and by such a wide margin. I was hoping they'd give it a good run. There's always the next Sweet 16 in, oh say, another 78 years.

Posted by wayupwaydown

11:14 PM, Mar 27, 2008

Why in the heck would Cameron Dollar want to take such a piss crap job like Sac. State? That has to be the worst job in the country at the Division 1 level.

He would help his career more by coaching a good high school team. They have a gym that has less capacity that most high school gyms. They have never had a winning D 1 season. He probably would make moer money staying at UW as an assistant.

You can be too desperate for a job sometimes. He needs to wait.

Posted by mattysimone

12:01 AM, Mar 28, 2008

I don't see why you guys even bother to talk to trash like geno, 10% of the time I may respond to him and this would be one of those only because HIS beloved team got embarrassed tonight. I also am a Huge husky fan, and normally love to see the cougars lose just because 75% of there fans are then most obnoxious idiots ive ever met besides duck fans. But the difference in the ducks and the cougars is even the duck players are obnoxious and idiots unlike the cougar players. I feel bad for the cougar team tonight as they have had a ton of class. Hopefully somebody hits Tony with a tractor tomorrow and knocks some since into him. He would be a great hire for Indiana. So cougar players im sorry in your defeat tonight and to the 75% of those cougars....haha you have something on your face! welcome to our boat!!! a season that resulted in nothing! Geno thank god your season is over so we dont have to see you on here bad you didnt fill out a bracket and take your squad, YOU were even embarrassed to do that :) To the other 25% of cougar fans, thank you . GO HUSKIES!!! true dawg fans dont stoop to geno, because then you are just like him obnoxious idiot

Posted by Josh

5:45 AM, Mar 28, 2008

First off, I thought this was about the Sacrament State job?

Why wouldn't Dollar want it? Sure the pay is low but $90K in Sacrament isn't bad. The facilities aren't the greatest but it is a small school in a small conference (as the article says, just look at PSU).

You have to start somewhere. Since Sac St is so bad and has had only a history of being bad, If he gets them up to .500, then he is a candidate for larger schools. A good recruiter should be able to bring in some talent, which, considering the area between Sacramento and the Bay Area and into the San Joaquin Valley, I am sure there is plenty (especially for small conference D-1).

Sac St should role the dice on Dollar. If doesn't improve the team after a few years, replace him with the local alum Katz. If the team improves and Dollar leaves, then Katz is coming into a good situation. That way, you get your alum but with no expectations to be the savior.

So, that means we should start speculating on who would be a good replacement for Dollar. I guess for it be meaningful, we would have to know what the other UW coaches bring to the table and what UW is losing with Dollar. Obviously, good recruiter, but what about on the court? Are there any UW alumni in coaching or who might want to coach?

Posted by Cougfan

7:08 AM, Mar 28, 2008

Once again some very mature posts on both sides. First, let me say that nothing any Husky fan can say to make me feel bad. If you really understood what the term "Couging it" really meant and used it correctly I might actually take offense to it.

Examples of Couging it:

*Being a preseason #8 team and not making the NCAA tourney.
*Losing to a team at home as the #1 seed in a HS tourney.
*Being a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney and not advancing past the Sweet 16
*Losing to what you consider a lesser program 7 consecutive times.

There, that is Couging it.

I said at the beginning of the year that the Cougars were a 10-15 ranked team. Funny that I was correct about that. They make the Sweet 16 and lose to what many consider the best team in the country. What do some Husky fans do? They get on here and act like Wazzu fans should feel bad. Give me a break. I feel nothing but good about this team and what they have done. The only bad feeling I have is their home loss to Cal, but they avenged it when they went to Cal and destroyed them.

If you would have told me two years ago that the Cougs would be playing in the Sweet 16 I would have shaken my head and said you were crazy. So all of this is gravy.

Just remember this: The UW is supposed to be the premier university when it comes to athletics. The fact that for a few years WSU has fielded the dominate athletic teams in the state should be a total embarrass to a athletic department that has more money, an easier time recruiting, a bigger alumni, and a bigger stage on which to play.

Say all you want, but nothing you say will affect me at all!!

Go Cougs!

Posted by Cougfan

7:55 AM, Mar 28, 2008

My last comment is to check out the following website. The reason I post this is that someone likened the Cougs being eliminated in the Sweet 16 with the Huskies being eliminated. Apparently if you end the season as anything but a National Champion, it is not successful. Besides the Ivy league, every team ends the season with a loss.

The dichotomy between the Huskies season and the Cougs is the feeling their fanbase has toward their respective teams. Read what Wazzu fans are saying and try to remember the vitraol Husky fans were spewing when their season ended.

There is no comparison.

Posted by cougfan is a moron

9:51 AM, Mar 28, 2008

cougfan --

You lost. Bad. 21 points on national television. YES! Any a question for you. Why are you even here anyway? It's a Husky blog. Nobody even cares what you think. If morons like you didn't come to this blog, there wouldn't even be posts addressing you guys and your crap hole school!

Posted by bd

9:53 AM, Mar 28, 2008

Cougfan (and any others interested in intellence):
This is somewhat a Cougar question, but it may relate to others on a Husky board...IF (please God, no) we lose Bennett, what happens? I would imagine all ass'ts would go with him. So you're left with 1) an older retread (Ben Braun?), or 2) a young up-and-comer who might leave (Tony Bennett).
So my question, bringing it back to this board, is Would they go after Cameron Dollar? What about Bill Grier? Ken Bone? Where is Ray Giacoletti these days?

Posted by bd

9:55 AM, Mar 28, 2008

On my prior post: "intellence"...nice. "Intelligence" was the desired word.
And one more thing: Sac St is a crap job. Not the same as PSU at all. And $90K would get you a bit further in Sacto than it would in Seattle, but not much further.
I personally doubt Dollar is ready to move to a PX head job (other than, maybe, OSU), but he could do a heck of a lot better than Sac St. Better to wait.

Posted by Cougfan

10:06 AM, Mar 28, 2008


great post!

Posted by Cougfan

10:19 AM, Mar 28, 2008

bd: First, my gut feeling is that Bennett is not leaving. I could be wrong, but he made some pretty lofty promises to a couple of recruits and just don't think he would back out on them. I have said all along that he is waiting for the Wisconsin job to open and I truly believe that. Indiana just does not seem like the right fit. It does not make sense that he would go there and then leave there for Wisconsin where I think he wants to be.

As for his assistants, not sure they are ready yet. If it were two years later, I could see one of them leaving Bennett, but not yet. Remember, although TB is young he has been the son of a coach which puts him a bit ahead of most his age. Until he leaves, I don't want to even speculate.

My $.02

And to answer another question: I am here to irritate the likes of you! What I find most humorous is that you say no one cares, but you continue to read what I say.

Yes, WSU is a crap hole university. It should not even exist. Nothing good ever comes out of it--especially the Cougfan.

Remember, I have no friends, I am a loser, I live with my mom, yada, yada, yada.

I'm not sure what's worse, being the obvious loser I am, or getting so fires up about someone you consider to be a loser and hiding behind a name. Yes, we know it's either tj or jason, but alas, they hide.

Posted by bd

10:52 AM, Mar 28, 2008

Cougfan - I agree that he seems unlikely to leave due to his overall personality and the promises he made to recruits. Your point about WI being the dream job is very true, too. He can get WI directly from WSU, so why bother moving twice?
I honestly believe that the Dawg hopes of WSU dropping to Hades is pretty unlikely. Next year will be a bit of a step back, but the PX is way down overall. Cougs will be a bunch in the 3-5 range. Dawgs, your attitude of entitlement (the sun rises, the UW sets the bar of excellence, and the Cougs suck) is what keeps Cougars from taking any kind of joyful attitude when you experience success. (No, it's NOT that we're dumb, or classless, or drunk - though sometimes a little PBR can help us sit through conversations with you.) The fact of the matter is that not much good has happened (other than the random Sweet 16 run) since the Dawgfather cheated (or looked the other way and blessed the cheaters) on his way to a split national title. If you would just honestly admit to a dry spell (and quit cutting in line at Tully's), it would be so much easier to be gracious.

Posted by LA Husky

11:19 AM, Mar 28, 2008

I'll cop to a dry spell. It sucks. But it also seems that there is a great deal more parity between schools these days--even as far as smaller schools (Davidson, Gonzaga), competing consistently against perennial powers. It is especially true in Basketball. A college only needs a few players a year and most states produce plenty of talent for the colleges to recruit. And basketball is much more of a coachable game than football. WSU has an advantage here in having a terrific coach. He knows what he needs from players. None of those guys were 3 or 4 star recruits when they landed at WSU, but they've become very good players. I don't see the Cougs falling that far back. They have good talent coming in and have veteran talent returning. They might be more versatile. The may have more depth--something that cost them this season.

Posted by bd

11:52 AM, Mar 28, 2008

True, LA. True. A hoops head coach makes a ton of difference because basketball is deeply personal and way more cerebral in execution than football. (I don't have experience in football, but I'd guess most players decide to go based on NFL prospects and their position coach.)
I think that's what makes us fret so much about TB leaving.

Posted by to cougfan and company

11:55 AM, Mar 28, 2008

coug fans are dumb, rude, and have bad breath
whether you keep Bennett or lose him, that won't change
that's all I have to say about that

Posted by bd

12:15 PM, Mar 28, 2008

To wit.

Posted by LA Husky

12:17 PM, Mar 28, 2008

One thing to consider when generalizing about Dawg fans and for that matter, Coug fans: sport is like religion. There are fans/believers on both ends of the fringe.

Posted by Cougfan

12:25 PM, Mar 28, 2008

LA: I totally agree. I always enjoy your posts. Notice I always qualify when I speak about some Husky fans.

Posted by you are right

2:54 PM, Mar 28, 2008

In fairness, it's really about 99% of the coug fans who are knuckle dragging morons and they do give the other 1% a bad name. I apologize to the 1%.

Posted by Dignan

3:50 PM, Mar 28, 2008

What makes Coug fans so comical? Coug fans go to a Husky blog and rant about Husky fans the day after YOUR team loses...LOL The inferiority complex will never leave the Coug fan - that's why Cougs are more happy after a Husky loss than they are after a Coug win. Inferiority complex...

It's classic - the DAY after YOU lose in the biggest game in school history, you are on a UW blog saying "at least we went further than UW." I love it!

The day(s) after we lost to UConn and Louisville in back to back Sweet 16's, I guarantee you we weren't visiting Coug blogs worried about WSU. If WSU even entered the thought process on those days it would be to retaliate against a Geno type trolling a UW blog. LOL

Trash talking aside, WSU had one heck of a season, something to be proud of for sure. It will be interesting to see what Bennett's next move will be. Like Bob wrote, he didn't do much to squash speculation as he basically avoided those he should have. He'll stay unless he gets an offer he can't refuse...which isn't out of the realm of possibility.

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