Husky Men's Basketball Blog
Seattle Times staff reporter Bob Condotta provides a running commentary on the Huskies.
March 20, 2008 9:49 AM
Posted by Bob Condotta
I'm sitting on the couch, watching the NCAA Tournament, alternating preparing season wrap-up stories on UW while trying to make sense of a Husky season that didn't meet anyone's expectations.
I'll pop back in here from time to time throughout the day with some thoughts --- maybe on the NCAA Tournament as well.
First, here's our story from today focusing on an all-too-fitting ending. And here's the notebook, with UW officials saying they would do the whole CBI thing again despite the loss of a game and money.
Seth Kolloen of Enjoy the Enjoyment points out this is the first time since 1958 UW has had losing records in both football and men's basketball (so at least you can say you took part in history).
And here's a Valpo take on things from the Gary Post-Tribune, And more from the Post-Tribune's Valpo blog with some good quotes from Crusaders coach Homer Drew.
Everybody seemed to agree later that Valpo was simply the more mentally strong team down the stretch.
So thought I'd break down what Valpo did the last 2:45 after it scored its final point of the game --- went 0-2 from the field, 0-2 from the free throw line and allowed five offensive rebounds.
But Valpo escaped because UW went 0-8 from the field and 0-2 from the line.
I watched the replay last night and the final eight shots included four or five that it's hard to believe didn't go down.
--- Quincy Pondexter missed on a driving layin that rattled off the rim at about the 2:14 mark.
--- Jon Brockman missed on a short hook in the lane and Justin Dentmon then missed a follow jumper in the lane at the 1:24 mark.
--- After a time out, Ryan Appleby missed a wide-open three-pointer from the corner and Dentmon then missed a follow jumper from about 15 feet or so, but pretty wide open at about the 1:10 mark.
--- Pondexter then missed on a short-runner with 25 seconds left
--- After Valpo's two missed free throws, Brockman missed on a short driving shot, got the rebound and was fouled.
--- After Brockman missed two free throws, Dentmon got the rebound and missed a short jumper in traffic (he got some contact but maybe the refs had seen the way the Huskies had been shooting free throws all night and thought better of it).
That's an open three-pointer from the best three-point shooter in school history, two misses by the team's All-Conference player and the other five from the players who are third and fourth on the team in scoring. All eight shots, in other words, coming from UW's four leading scorers.
The right guys got good shots. But kind of like the season, it just didn't happen.
SPEAKING OF THE NCAA TOURNAMENT --- Danny O'Neil is following it all day long with his "A day on the couch'' blog you can find here.
As for me, I'm breaking down some free throw numbers that I'll present here later.
Posted by chris
10:32 AM, Mar 20, 2008
Funniest thing I heard was Applby on KJR saying it's nice to be playing again but if I was the UW I wouldnt have paid the 60k to play us. Wow, what confidence.
Posted by Brian
10:37 AM, Mar 20, 2008
The lack of fans at the game might be due to the confusion with tickets.
I went online the first day the tickets went on sale to the general public looking for two tickets, the website said the best available were in row 23.
I decided to wait.
Yesterday, I went on-line looking for one ticket and
best available was row 22. If the crowd was so small how could row 22 be the best seat available ?
Plus the website wanted a $10.00 processing fee
for a $17.50 ticket, that is crazy.
I, like many others, decided to stay away.
Posted by Bob Condotta
10:39 AM, Mar 20, 2008
Chris --- That's not what Appleby said. He said he, himself wouldn't have paid the $60,000. Obviously he's a college kid of limited means so he doesn't have the money. He was simply trying to play along with a question that was asked of him. I wouldn't read more into it than that.
Posted by chris
10:46 AM, Mar 20, 2008
I understand, but it I think he was stating it as if it was his decision as a UW faculty memeber he wouldnt have made the decision to pay it. Of course not out of his own pocket he is a broke kid. i just thought it was a sarcastic thing for him to say. Doesnt matter. I was at the game last night and I am a coug fan and I was rooting for the Dawgs. They need to improve on free throqw shooting. Thats what lost it for them, also give it up on Dentmon. I dont like him. I hope Brockman is back next year. I love him even as a Coug fan. UW will be back and strong next year. I do believe that. Im not a Dawg hater.
Posted by Dave " The Meatball" Armistead
10:54 AM, Mar 20, 2008
What an embarrassment for the Pac-10. Losing in the FBI Company Pick-up game? I love all of you who still want Romar as coach...keep him there forever, the rest of the Pac-10 thanks you for your devoution to a man who continues to keep you down year after year.
NCAA dreams are long gone, now 2 years without an NIT invite shows where the Washington program truly is.
Posted by I hate hedges & turner
11:03 AM, Mar 20, 2008
Unreal. Could the Huskies' athletics department be more bleeped-up if they tried?
Thanks to Hedges and Turner for driving our athletics department right over the cliff's edge. No bowl game in years, no (real) post season basketball. I think we boosters should ask for a complete refund of 100% of Hedge's and Turner's pay and benefits. If it drove them both to bankruptcy it would only make up for some of the damage they have caused!!! They were paid tons of money to destroy our athletics program. The worst part is, they came, ruined things, made a ton of money, and are now don't have to deal with the mess. But we're left here as Husky fans to try to pick up the peices of the broken program they left in their wake!
Posted by coug is dumb
11:05 AM, Mar 20, 2008
coug -- I guess a double, double every night in the pac10 qualifies someone as "overrated" in your book. By that definition, how many guys in the history of the pac10 were any good? Because it's an awfully small percentage who can say they have put up the numbers that Brockman has.
Go away unless you have something intelligent to say. What a jack-ass.
Posted by chris
11:06 AM, Mar 20, 2008
Coug- you are exactly the kind of classles coug fan I do want to be sterotyped with. Show some class if you come into a Husky blog at least. Brockman is good, Baynes is good. I am a die hard coug, but the difference between you and I is I do it with class. Yes I am a WSU alum. I come to the Husky blog also because I am actually a fan of the Sport, and I have opinions on a rival. Doesnt mean you need to use profanity or talk down to them. Respect you rivals, respect your alma mater, and most of all if your educated respect the school that educated you by not making a fool out of yourself.
That is all
Posted by coug
11:28 AM, Mar 20, 2008
And all those double doubles came got his team where? Brock forces shots, is a blackhole, turns it over frequently, shoots a low %, cant hit FT and he adds nothing to his team. they have never made the tournament or had a winning p10 record with him as a "leader". Baynes has never lost to brock, always dominates him and his team is one of the nationals elite and a favorite for the final 4 while brock directly lead to a home loss to valpo. do the math fuzkiez
Posted by brchco12
11:31 AM, Mar 20, 2008
any word on artem's knee?
Posted by mattysimone
11:34 AM, Mar 20, 2008
damnit georgia!! they chocked on me!! funnu how xav hits about 90% of their FTs for the game and that was the diff.....resulting in a W
Posted by FRAIRT
12:06 PM, Mar 20, 2008
Nice summary, but all that would have meant nothing if the Huskies had a free safety playing back at the head of Val's key. Then the Val player would not have a free layin. It also looked like Appleby made a somewhat lame attempt at stopping that same Val player as he got started with the ball.
Bad coaching and some really uptight players whose muscles were so tense they could make anything, especially free throws.
12:15 PM, Mar 20, 2008
Huskies past success was because of a coach that left for PSU: Ken Bone
Ever since Ken left, the program has slowly gone down hill.
Romar can only do so much, and if you are surrounded by good coaches, then you can go far.
Posted by StumpDawg
12:32 PM, Mar 20, 2008
Brockman is a stud, a solid double-double contributor and a valuable piece to any team. He's not overrated. He is NOT, however, a go-to scorer. This team does not have a go-to scorer - that will need to arrive with the freshmen next year, or with a bigger sack for QPon.
Dentmon and Overton are too out of control to leave the ball with in a last shot situation. Brockman failed to make big shots in the last 5 minutes of the first Wazzu game, missed a layin at the end of the 1st OT in the secong Wazzu game (would've made it two-possession), and doinked again last night.
This team has a leadership problem. They play not to lose. They don't follow Brockman, they watch him. The coaching staff is going to need to address the leadership issue (if they don't, it becomes a coaching problem).
Here's a scary thought for next year - do you build around Brockman for a "win now" approach, or build around the sophmores and freshmen and win in 2-3 years? This team will have more talent next year, but if they play in deference to their elders as this year's appearred to do, we'll have another season of young players getting court time, and not much improvement in wins. Another concept - QPon throws down, says "this is my team" and walks the talk.
Posted by KirklandDawg
12:45 PM, Mar 20, 2008
I'd be interested in a response/verification by the Ticket Office of the issues Brian raises.
Posted by dawgpack
1:12 PM, Mar 20, 2008
You can question Romar's coaching all you want, but look at all those misses at the end that Bob outlined above. Our team quite simply cannot hit the shots when we need it, including free throws. We aren't clutch. And no coach can make those shots for his players. We wouldn't be talking about his coaching if we just made a couple of easy shots. It's just a matter of a lack of players who can create their own shot and have the confidence to make it. And I believe Quincy will be that guy next year. The offense should go through him, and not Jon. Brockman is a fantastic player in his role as a rebounder, put back guy, and second option, probably the best in that role in the conference or the country. But there is no way our team can be in the pac-10 elite with him as our first option. The coaches just had no other choice than to run everything through Brockman because Quincy was too timid this season.
Posted by coug is dumber
1:19 PM, Mar 20, 2008
coug -- even your own brethren are turning on you!
Seriously, dude. Don't be a moron. Brockman is about the only good thing about this team right now. For a dipstick like you to say he is overrated is beyond idiotic. If he had any supporting case whatsoever, his numbers might actually improve! And the winning percentage would certainly go up. Obviously you've never been an athlete. When one guy is out there trying to do it on his own, it's awfully tough to do. Frankly, I think his mental toughness is amazing in addition to his physical effort on the court. The fact that he brings it every night is awesome. Most NBA guys could learn a lot from his heart and grit.
Anyway, take your 5'2" 115 pound sorry butt outta here. There are a lot of negative things that could fairly be said about this Husky basketball team. But when you come on here saying Brockman is a terrible player, it just makes you look like a completely brainless idiot.
Posted by dawgpack
1:25 PM, Mar 20, 2008
It was an awesome and gutsy performance by Brockman yesterday. I've played on a sprained ankle before, and it hurts. And it's very difficult to move. 22 points and 12 rebounds. He knew that he had to be the team because no one else would, and we probably would have lost by a lot more if he wasn't out there. He was, though, a step slow on defense, which he could not help. I was surprised to see how much we missed Artem.
Posted by gatsby
2:19 PM, Mar 20, 2008
Do you suppose the football and men's basketball teams just wanted those of us in the Class of '58 to feel at home when we hold our 50th reunion next month? That's more hospitality than we need -- lots more.
Posted by Fill Nite
2:27 PM, Mar 20, 2008
Scout.com has out a Hoops & Helmets posting ranking the nation's top 25 programs for last football season and this basketball season. Oregon ranked 17th. It also has an Oops & Helmets ranking for the bottom 10. UW ranked 4th. Says the writer, "Rarely competitive in either sport. Washington athletics is in a sad state of affairs."
Posted by Trevor
3:55 PM, Mar 20, 2008
The UW Basketball team should hang its head in shame.
That game was painful to watch.
Again, just like last year, almost no offensive movement or plays to speak of. Valpo looked like a better team on O with less talented players, constantly pulling Brockman away from the hoop before setting up a play that drove hard inside against people like Appleby.
Free throw catastrophes.
Appleby totally out of control, taking insane shots, getting blown on D.
Cycling through players, with few gelling into a coherent unit. A series of substitutions that seemed based in frustration, giving different looks none of which were great.
Without Brockman, the game probably isn't close.
Coach Bone clearly held things together more than we realized. Romar needs to do some hard thinking about fundamentals, because this team of talented players isn't developing and is regularly beating itself.
Posted by Mike
5:10 PM, Mar 20, 2008
To what extent do defects in free throw shooting go back to the coaching staff? Can't players be taught to do this, or at least required to practice it? How is it the Coach Romar was able to coach this team to the worst record in the nation at the line? It seems like something you'd almost have to work at.
Posted by bomberboy
2:16 PM, Mar 21, 2008
coug....Baynes??? do you actually watch coug games? in the five games against Stanford and UCLA this yearBaynes contributed to that 0-5 record with 36 total points (7.2), 25 reb (5.0) and in three of the games had only ONE FG. wsu had a nice team this year....but if anything Baynes was one of the reasons they couldnt win a game with Arizona, Stanford, UCLA. And don't kid yourself...he didn't do much against a really weak UW team either.
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