Any more confirmation on Kevin Prince committing to UW - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/varsitytimesinsider/recruiting_buzz/index.html

Wow, seems like a goal-orients, put-together family there. The mere fact of turning away from SC speaking volumes about them, but their vision & goals do as well.
With Polk & Shaw, the Dawgs now have two slashes at WR. The jet/fly sweep action with a speedy runner to get to the perimeter is another look a defense must prepare for. That was a nice variation I hope the Huskies stick with. It also makes otherwise empty backfield set not so empty by motioning those guys around.
Man, where am I from, OSU? Three consecutive sentences ending in a preposition.

I would hope they would gray shirt Prince. Push that commitment to next years class, and let him recover from the knee injury.
I am intrigued by Tyrone Ward. WR out of Flint MI Who is 6'4 and runs a 4.4
Only Cincinatti has offered besides UW and he is listed as a one star player.
Anybody have any more info on him?
Its always good to have tall receiver to go to in the red zone.

below is a highlight of polks team, but most of the highlights are of polk. my god the guy is amazing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzs4R9xF-aw

And do we have another switch commit coming???

From Rivals.com:

"Birmingham's Carter could be looking elsewhere

You figured once Karl Dorrell was fired at UCLA, there would be some kind of domino effect, particularly when it came to the Bruins' recruiting class, considered by many as one of the best in the nation heading into 2008. And sure enough, it looks like things are beginning to fall apart in Westwood.

Donovan Carter of Birmingham is the latest prized prospect who's re-evaluating his situation after verbally committing to UCLA in June. The senior linebacker now appears interested in, get this, Pac-10 rivals Arizona St. and Washington. Check out Rivals.com for some quotes from Carter about his current dilemma."

Kevin Prince and E.J. Woods go to the same high school...... Were going to get woods too.

We are going to have too many. We need to send some of the lower rank kids back.

So does Chris Polk run a 4.34 40 like his mom claims, or a 4.5 that is listed on scout.com? That's a significant difference.

Judging from his videos, he looks a little faster than 4.5. He has a great combination of power and speed. He had an impressive sr. season - 34 tds. A 200-yard 4-td performance vs. Dominguez is impressive, so you can't knock the competition.

This video is from the game that decided his HS division championship:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tzs4R9xF-aw

One thing I like is he came through in the clutch. Being down 14-21 in the 4th quarter, he ripped a 71-yard td run. We need playmakers like that. Can't wait to see this guy on the field!

Couldn't disagree more almac. Ty and the staff are getting a lot of these kids because they preach loyalty and commitment and the kids believe in them. Freeing up an extra scholarship or two is not worth going against those principals, it would backfire in the end.
Great day for the Dawgs today!

Great quotes from Polk's mother on Scout.com:

"Going to the official visit with Washington, we were very impressed," Edrena[Polk]said. "We were impressed with the facilities. The people were very organized with regards to the academics. It was very well explained, very thorough. The tours to the different facilites - he was very impressed with. The team - he felt very close and very good with the team, along with the coaches. He felt at home. It was a very good visit. It just stuck in his mind." So once the family felt that Washington was the place for Chris, all that was left was the announcement to the Head Coach. "He was very, very excited," Edrena said of Willingham's reaction to Chris' decision. "I guess him and Coach (Charlie) Baggett were there together and they were screaming. They were just very happy."

This is such great news for Husky football and validates the hard work and dedication Coach Tyrone and staff are devoting to build the program into a power again.

Anyone know how it works when a kid goes on a mission before school? Does he sign a LoI and count for the class before he goes, or only after he comes back?

after he comes back

Domers suck!

Such great news! I agree with rb - while we should enroll kids a year earlier or later where possible, we can not start going back altogether on our offers (unless they were expressly contingent in the first place).

I have no brain. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black. Willingham, black.

Thanks T. That makes Prince's commit even better if that is his plan.

This is another great addition, considering that he can greyshirt. Hopefully we get his classmate too!

GO DAWGS!!!

I am just wondering -is jh really such an imbecile or just a guy sitting at his computer wearing a white sheet. Whichever he is a very good reason to require registration to comment on this blog.

I have heard we have a shot at a UCLA package deal: Darrin Hester, EJ Woods, and Johnathan Franklin... and then this transfer from Michigan, Johnny Sears. Man would our D look good with all those guys too.

Ward got arrested this past summer for breaking into a home. Can't see Ty going after this guy.

http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2007/09/authorities_say_swa_football_p.html

In other news: http://recruiting.scout.com/2/710862.html

Bob,

If Polk is indeed a WR, he's only the 4th committed for this class. Mackay was recruited to play Linebacker.

GO DAWGS!

Was thinking the same Huskiebob. The Times doesn't have to let every racist moron (Duck, etc.) post here.

Is it just me or do we have way more scholarships outstanding than we actually have left?

Polk should count against last yrs class.

wow is the DON P popin at TYs house tonight or what!

Polk, Prince and E.J. Woods all visited UW on the weekend of October 19th.

Could Woods be next?

I would like to see the dawgs develop a tall, speedy WR/CB prospect into a shutdown corner in the mold of Dana Hall in the early 90s. Obviously corners benefit from steady pressure from the DL and ends but in man coverage we need someone we can depend on against the taller, athletic receivers in the Pac10

with the class filling up so quickly it would nice to round it out with some defensive players especially if they are

thompson
woods
carter
roussel
and pickins if he goes to the secondary

add any two or three (pending what class prince goes into) of these to this class and i can see a rose bowl victory and ty as a long tenure coach that could be here for awhile if he keeps up the top end recruiting classes

maybe its just me but can anyone else see Tyrone here in 2020 if these next few years are a big success which if proper coaching moves are made (get rid of kent and bring babers to replace miles)

is very very possible

Go DAWGS!

WOW - how refreshing nothing negative!
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it's too bad that recuiting classes don't has history rankings. Some of RN's classes best recuiuts never played a down, but were ranked highly.
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TW's 3rd (2nd real) class looks as good as a DJ class. What color is the Kool-Aid? - PURPLE.
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I cannot wait for next year - payback for the lasty 3 years.......
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Go Huskies!
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jd

It's DOM P, but i think TW is a Mums guy anyway. I'm wondering if this offense-heavy class will end us up with a bunch of JWF's. Some of these guys will have to play defense, and they know that going in, but there are lots of scenarios I could see that would necessitate those same guys going back to the offense later. JWF is working out pretty well, though, so I'm not really fretting.

Hey, awesome news on Polk. there is just no possible way to spin that any other way than that he is a great, great commit for the Huskies.

Signing "too many" guys isn't a problem unless they go crazy and sign like 30. IIRC they can fit 27 more scholarships under the 85 man overall limit. As for the 25 man limit for any one class, an early enrollee like C. Polk can be counted back against last year's class (another reason he's so valuable), and one or two guys are guaranteed not to qualify b/c that happens every year at every school. Finally if they still end up with too many they can ask somebody to "greyshirt" and delay their enrollment until January '09 when they could count against the following class.

It's too bad that recruiting classes don't have history rankings. Some of RN's classes best recruits never played a down, but were ranked highly.
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TW's 3rd (2nd real) class looks as good as any DJ class. WOW HM what do you have to pick on today?
What color is the Kool-Aid? - right of course it's PURPLE I am a HUSKY.
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I cannot wait for next year - payback for the last 3 years.......
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Go Huskies!
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jd

CP - welcome to UW.
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Work hard and you will reach your goals!
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jd

These "hate Ty" guys are exposed. Somehow, these guys are players the UW would have gotten anyway. Give me a break.

Anyone that is still against Ty has shown their prejudice on this issue. I am disgusted by the "Hate Ty" faction. They are racist, pure and simple. They have lost all rational backing.

Hey Bubba Brooke (and all Willigham supporters),

You saying that we're against Willingham for racial reasons is just as ignorant as to be against him for those reasons in the first place. Let me give you numbers.

11-25 Overall
1-8 vs NW Schools
6-20 vs. Pac-10 Schools
Worst Defense Ever

Great stuff, huh? Why do you hate facts? In fact, couldn't I just say that the only reason YOU like him is because you'd feel bad for him if he left?

Let me make something clear on the Polk commit: he is here because he gets IMMEDIATE playing time with the Huskies, not because he likes our program more than USC. If he could play at SC as a freshman, he would. Don't kid yourself. He's a bench player next year for them, a starter for us.

Get used to the anti-Willingham faction, because we'll be boasting about it to people like you when he's fired after next season. With Turner gone, there's no one to protect him. I hear the AD position is open, why don't you apply for it if you'd like to keep him on?

Yah, we should hate the 'hate ty' guys. It's only fair. Expose that 11-25 record, dig baby dig.
He's had good players before (Quinn, Jones, etc), did he win with them? Nope.
Support the players, guys like Chris Polk. Don't support the coach, it's only fair to the fans.

The supporters' endorsement of LAST PLACE FOOTBALL is duely-noted.

Their message to the fanbase?

Welcome to UW football: check your high expectations at the door.

Are things looking good for the Dawgs or what? It really looks like things are falling into place. Taking recruits from UCLA is not a surprise even with the top ten status of the Bruins current class falling like Atlanta Falcon coaches. However, taking recruits from USC is a coup!

Furthermore, it looks like we are prepared for long term stability with a steady flow of top recruits.

Based on my calculations the Huskies may move into a top ten recruiting class if all that are on the boards sign with the dawgs.

Great job Husky coaching staff for extending the fence around So. cal!

We still have this speedy MLB lined up for a visit Jan 4th. Bradly Roussel from Baton Rouge

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2715241

He'd be a great addition to this recruiting class. And if we could add EJ Woods and Everette Thompson, then this class would round out a solid core of defensive players.

We've got some good recruiting momentum going. Can't wait til singing day =)

things looking great for the dawgs right now!! getting some great recruits, a new AD to help drum up some support from the fans and fill the stadium and get support for a new one, and not to mention the fact that we still have Locker for another 3. now if only we could recruit some fresh purple-blooded fans to take the place of all these old complainers who probably dont even cheer at games. sigh, cant get everything you wish for, but ill settle for either a DC upgrade or a red rider BB gun for Christmas.

With Iweka not qualifying and Polk being on campus by Spring can they put him in last year's class? It seems to me that they should be able to, but I'm not certain. If they can that still leaves them with 4 scholarships to hand out, of course all of these kids still have to get in to school, which hasn't always happened lately.

We've got weapons.

We've got bullets.

Ty's ruffling the collar of a Husky, who's waiting to howl. . .

This is seriously cool news. Personally, I don't think TT is a good fit at AD now, but he was not too long ago, and Ty Willingham has it in him to be a great football coach with teh talent that he's lured to Montlake in the best recruiting class of the last 15 years. That is doing what it takes to win. Apparently, a lot of recruits want to play or Ty Willingham.

We have playmakers in the recruits, and most likely a quarterback coach soon for Jake, along with getting to know Aguilar, Boyles, and Polk while working on his accuracy.
QUESTION BOB: QB coach? In the works, and who'd be candidates? I think Emmert would approve.

Our offense will be potent, and Juan Garcia is going to help to solidify an offensive line that will allow for Kavario Middleton to do his thing as a TE, with Jake Locker waiting to pounce at any moment with his toughness and quickness.

Now, what about those defensive recruits? lol, Go Dawgs! Great Recruiting class, I think that justifies a fifth year, but we have to f*cking crush the Cougs next year.

Welcome aboard Chris Polk, make some damn crazy plays for Husky Glory!

Bow Down to Washington!
Bow Down to Washington!
Mighty are the Men who Wear the Purple and the Gold!

I doubt Prince still has offers from UCLA and Washington. Since he had the ACL injury. I doubt Washington would take another QB in this class. And since these two schools were his leaders, its hard to believe someone coming off an ACL would still be trying to figure out if he should commit to either place. With the injury he's not exactly in a position to be real picky and wait.

Bob,
Could you give us an update on Boyles' eligibility. Thought you said last week that there was still some question about it.

Tackle with your Head up

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Things are poppin now. This class looks like
it will be the fundation for a launch into
the top 3, at leasst. Go Huskies. Next year
may start okay. The purple and gold will reign
again. Not bad winning a few is it ? Duh

I'm really impressed with Polk's four point plan...he sounds like a solid young man and very talented football player. His mother, Edrena, said "I had to go with him to feel and to see for myself with my own eyes who will be taking my baton as I pass my son on..." What a wonderful addditon to the Husky family...a real asset.
Ty is very fortunate to have him...what great timing.

This really is great news. Not only is this guy a great player, but our class is getting better at the same time that USC's is getting worse. Nice. Now if only we could pry a guy or two away from UCLA. That would tighten up the Pac-10 nicely.

jh, when did you graduate from Notre Dame?

As someone who has received a degree from the University of Our Lady, I am calling you out.

Polk will count against last year's class and they can still count one more per Bob but I cannot find that spot.

Boyles has registered fro classes. According to what i have read, you can only register once you are cleared by the NCAA. We shall see.

Also, remember that the best players in this class are lineman. Since they have to play next year becasue of depth, I still see it being two season before we get beyone seven wins. Now, if Jake listens to Lappano (remember the improvement each year for IS?) and the receivers hit a good spot in the spring, we might have enough impact on the offensive end to be a consistent offensive team. Taht can only help a young D. Special teams will improve next year.

While I applaud the recruiting efforts of TW and the staff, let's not forget what really matters, winning games on the field in 2008.
Many of these recruits won't start producing for several years. Does TW have enough "bullets" that will be ready for 2008? There are major holes to fill on the roster and I haven't seen that this coaching staff is able to give the team the extra push needed to pull out tight ballgames.
One more thing about this class, we need more linemen. It is almost looking Weasel-like with all of the RB's, and WR's.

At least the next coach will have some talent to work with. Tyrone is improving the talent level, too bad he doesn't know how to coach it.

Jackson, I agree. What helps is that the 2006 and 2007 class will be further along. That, and players like Middleton and Polk will be able to help immediately on offense while Ta'amu, perhaps Noble, hopefully E. Thompson, and maybe a few DB's will help on defense. Ta'amu is already 330 lbs. and benches nearly 400 pounds so he can be a run stuffer for 10-15 plays as a true frosh. ----------------------Hopefully E. Thompson commits to shore up the DL. As for the OL, we need OG Carroll and either DeCastro or Solomon to commit to play as center and ideally RS and then take over for Garcia in 2009. The staff is acutely aware that the OL and DL are vitally important.

In last years class and this years commits I count 11 linemen.

I think we need 4-5 o-line and 3-4 d-line every year. Otherwise we get gaps like we will have on the d-line next year where we are counting on RS FR and true FR to play a lot.

kin --

I could see Johri Fogerson somewhat fitting that Dana Hall mold you are looking for. I'm not sure if he's got corner speed, but he's very athletic, 6'2" with some size, and is projected as a safety. He could be very fun to watch when he drops back into coverage! Look out if you're a receiver running across the middle!!! (Remember Shane Paukoa (sp?))

Great looking recruiting class. Good job Ty & staff! Now let's go get 10 wins next year and serve notice that UW football is back!

This is a message to jh.
It seems the basis of your question is really a comparison of UW and ND decisions to fire the predecessor to TW.
If my memory serves me correctly George O'Leary was fired because he lied about his academic credentials and past athletic accomplishments. Whereas, Keith Gilbertson was fired due to a 1-10 season and his complicity in ending the string of 27 yrs of not having a losing season.
So... Was "George O'Leary fired because he was white and dirty... Can anybody give me two other reasons why he was fired?"

Stings, doesn't it...

TW was hired due to his past PAC-10 experience as well as his unquestioned integrity. Whether he is black or clean probably was not listed on the search committees decision criteria. If you have evidence please provide if you don't please move on to your next red herring.

Cheers
GO DAWGS

Some sad news...
Just looked at Scout.com and they list Oregon at #50 in the country and WSU at #105.
It would sure break my heart to see these two programs sink to the bottom of the Pac10 where they belong!
Little morning sarcasm... waiting for the coffee to kick in!
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And again -- great looking class coming in Dawg Fans! :-)

MM, good points on Fogerson. I've seen him play a few times and he is certainly in the Shane Pahukoa mold. I don't know his exact 40 time, but he has always looked fast. I've never seen him run down from behind, so a move to corner could be possible. But I really see him as the type of hard hitting, athletic safety that we have been lacking. He also has the frame to put on weight, so an eventual move to LB is also possible. Whatever the case, I like these athletic, versatile type of players that are being brought in now.

When do Aguilar and Boyles start school? Are they already in or will they be starting the same time as Polk.

WSU is going to be in a crunch in 2010 and 2011, when this class (all three of them) will be juniors and seniors. I do like it when the Cougs win a few games (especially when they beat Oregon or OSU), but those Apple Cups should sure be fun to watch. At least until half-time.

It's a little mysterious to me why Oregon can't pick up a few more guys. At this point their class doesn't look much better than the one that Gilby and Willingham split. Loved seeing Notre Dame take the five star defensive end out of Portland.

Prince is Mormon so would not necessarily count on this year's class, and would use up his eligibility in different years than Blackman and Leonard

that is if Prince went on a mission

"...TW was hired due to his past PAC-10 experience as well as his unquestioned integrity."

So, London, I think we're getting somewhere here...besides black and clean (e.g., "unquestioned integrity")...you provided "...his past PAC-10 experience". Do you mean his Stanford experience? If so...read on...from the San Francisco Chronicle:

Willingham goes to Notre Dame
Aftermath on The Farm
Irish's new coach will get exposed

Glenn Dickey
Tuesday, January 1, 2002

Printable Version

TYRONE WILLINGHAM is making a huge career mistake. At Notre Dame, he will be exposed for the mediocre coach he is.
Willingham has gotten an inflated reputation at Stanford, largely because the nearest comparison is Cal, which, except for one year of Steve Mariucci, has had seriously incompetent head coaches.

He was not the savior of the program at Stanford. His record of four winning seasons (one with players recruited by Bill Walsh) and three losing seasons is about par for the course at Stanford. Despite some horrible coaches such as Paul Wiggin and Jack Curtice, Stanford had had 20 winning seasons, 18 losing ones and six .500 years in the 44 years before Willingham.
Willingham's winning percentage of .550 is eclipsed by John Ralston, .588; Walsh, .585; Chuck Taylor, .577; and Jack Christiansen, .573, who combined to coach 26 of the 44 pre-Willingham years.

Overall, Willingham is not in the top tier of Stanford coaches in the past half century. Indeed, his seven Big Game victories are virtually all that separate him from a .500 record.
As recently as two years ago, Willingham was on very thin ice at Stanford, following consecutive seasons of 3-8 and 5-6. His job was saved when he hired offensive coordinator Bill Diedrick, who was able to make use of the offensive talent being recruited.
The fact that Willingham survived two seasons like that is significant. It wouldn't have happened at Notre Dame. Stanford didn't pay as much as Notre Dame is apparently willing to pay, but it's a much better job, because alumni and administration don't expect so much.

A Stanford coach has some limitations, because the school's entrance requirements are much higher than others in the Pac-10 conference, but a coach also has important advantages. Alumni contributions have enabled Stanford to build impressive athletic facilities, and the school has a nice recruiting niche, as the rough equivalent of an Ivy League school but with a Division I-A program, the only school nationally with that combination.
Stanford's entrance requirements will prevent any coach from putting together the consistent success that coaches such as Bobby Bowden at Florida State and Steve Spurrier at Florida can expect, at schools with entrance requirements that run the gamut from minimal to nonexistent.

But Stanford alumni and administration recognize that, so they aren't as demanding as alumni of serious football schools. Some disgruntled Notre Dame alumni set up a Web site devoted to getting rid of Bob Davie. Can you imagine Stanford alumni ever doing that?

Coaching at Stanford also has lifestyle advantages, which is why they've been able to keep outstanding coaches such as Mike Montgomery, Mark Marquess and Dick Gould in place for so long. It's a cozy place, in a beautiful area with mild year-round weather, close to one of the country's premier cities.
Willingham will miss that at Notre Dame, where the pressure is unrelenting, more like a pro team than a college one.
Once, the Notre Dame job was the most coveted in the country, because the football coach had an inside track to the best athletes in the country, especially the Catholic ones. He had no trouble getting the players into school, either. Before a Stanford-Notre Dame game during his last stint at Stanford, Walsh noted that there were several players on the Notre Dame roster he had tried to recruit, but that there was a much larger number of players he didn't recruit because he would never have been able to get them into school.

That's changed. Notre Dame has raised its entrance/academic requirements, so that many of the athletes who could have gotten in 10 years ago no longer can. At the same time, the school plays a very tough schedule and both the school administration and the athletic director expect the team to be in the top 10 at a minimum. The goal is to compete for the national championship each year.

Willingham will face another problem he has never had at Stanford. Because the pros are the bigger story in the Bay Area, college coaches don't face the intense scrutiny of their pro counterparts. He won't have that luxury at Notre Dame. The national media will descend on South Bend and make his life a hell. They'll ask tough questions and do tough stories. Losses will be dissected. His personality, or lack of, will be under the microscope.

Tyrone Willingham won't have a prayer. He should have stayed at Stanford.

E-mail Glenn Dickey at gdickey@sfchronicle.com.

So...London, we're still at two...e.g., Black and Clean...any other takers??

Where's Debatablepro and his Cook/Ruth (they're the same people) soap box? Probably too tired after a long night of dreaming that he actually played football (again, not on the playstation or flag).

As has been stated: Polk will count against last years #'s....pretty much took Iwika's place. And, Prince won't count until he get's back from his mission.....if he commits.

Prince would be a great get as he would probably RS his first year and then be ready right when Fouch/Dom/or Luthar are graduating. The only unfortunate part is that when Ty gets fired, I think Prince will re-open his recruiting.

Now, who the heck is going to be our new DC, DLine Coach and SpTeams Coach? That's right, Ty doesn't understand the term FIRE.....unless it's his pants that the fire is on.

so now, the morning after, we hear from Kevin Prince's own mouth that he did NOT commit to udub last night... where are all those hyperbolic fans who believe anything and everything they hear the moment they hear it now? certainly the guys (probably should say boys) on this message board will not be posting their apologies to Dawgman for their chronic habit of waiting for a commit to give them confirmation directly before posting hearsay.

...but then, of course the big media bemoans the internet morons and yet posts updates based on bloggers in another state. love this credibility stuff.

ummm - not even you can ruin the good news of the last two days. Keep taking your shots and hiding behind your various names...

Here is an audio sample of what just happened.

Click here

This is great news!! Dawg fans rejoice!! Ty is assemblingthe best 5-6 win squads in the history of college football!! Have patience everyone! Ty is a career .500 coach and soon enough he'll have our Dawgs winning half our games!! Just believe everyone!

JH - Can you please stop referring to Ty's race, it has nothing to do with his coaching ability. Are you in the KKK or Aryan Nation?

jh, when did you graduate from Notre Dame?

Way to go Ty!!!!!!! You guys are dominating the recruiting trail.

I'M FLOORED!!!

Keep it going!!!!!

Go Dawgs!

You really have two wonder about two groups of people when REALLY GOOD NEWS breaks... 1) the people who complain and 2) the people who normally complain but but aren't even the least bit happy that something good happened.

You would have to think this a good week for a wide variety of husky fans. The segment of the fan base that wanted Turner gone... check... the segment of the fan base who like sniping tier one commits from USC especially when that commit counts against last years class and will enroll early... (btw that should be all husky fans)... CHECK

Amen Tron!! We're closing in on winning a recruiting National Championship!! GO TY!!

Ignore "debatepro". All he/she tries to do is rip apart other posters comments. Then when someone tries to "debate" him/her, "debatepro" either says they can't "debate" under those circumstances or they just run and hide because they actually know nothing about football. "debatepro" never played football, they were too busy being a nerd on the debate team.

there has to be a way to ban jh. No real fan here wants to hear that tired bigotry every day.

It's also telling that UCLA's great recruiting class appears to now be in shambles. That's what happens when you fire a coach. One more bullet point in the "don't fire Ty" column.

If you don't like free speech rb, then I'd suggest not reading message boards.

5446: I don't agree with debatepro about everything, but come on. You're upset that he is bashing other poster's comments and your solution is to perform an attack on his character? Nice.

Besides: WE JUST STOLE A CALIFORNIA RECRUIT FROM USC!

We just convinced a Top 100 recruit...who had an offer from USC...who is from southern California...who had earlier committed to USC...to come to Washington. Nothing is final until LOI day, but until then, we no longer need to complain about our inability to recruit against USC / UCLA in California.

Debatepro is right. If your first response to this is to complain, you need to ask yourself why that is. WE JUST STOLE A CALIFORNIA RECRUIT FROM USC.

...You're right...being black has nothing to do with Willingham's coaching ability (or lack thereof). But...it is one of the two reasons why he was hired at UW and ND. Or does someone have a third reason?

jh, when did you graduate from Notre Dame?

JH - I've got a third reason. It was a good PR move. ND was getting trashed in the national media (not just sports) and then we hired him and got alot of good press. Unfortunately, we aren't getting much attention anymore because the national media tends to ignore last place teams.

Nothing is final until LOI day, but until then, we no longer need to complain about our inability to recruit against USC / UCLA in California.


We don't have to even wait that long he will enroll early in January!!!! Its the trifects:
1. He is an amazing talent.
2. We stole him from USC
3. He will enroll early (life fouch)
It's a great day to be a husky!!!!

...I'll take the "good PR move"...but that goes back to the Black issue. So...we're still stuck on two...focus Pig, focus...

Here's an interesting link RE Willingham's career. It has his record at each school where's coached, including individual results:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=2525

He's a .500 coach. His record is spotted with big wins over Michigan, Tennessee, Purdue, and FL St. There are also some iffy losses. All this can be interpreted to support critics as well as supporters, but one thing is noteworthy: if you're beating Michigan and Tennessee, even with someone else's players, you can be sure that you played some decent ball along the way...

Not much I can add other than he had prior PAC-10 experience which has helped in building a recruiting base on the westcoast (which is finally taking hold). Also you did not answer my stated reason of unquestioned integrity. His coaching stops at Standford, ND and now UW have gone without violations from him and his recruits.

He recruits young men that display great character at the high school level which translates into football players that make all UW alumni proud. The wins will come and hope that you will rejoice as much as you have ridiculed the hiring.

So I believe I have answered your two points and find it interesting you did not defend George O'Leary's hiring and subsequent firing. Care to provide insight as to ND's rational for first hiring and then firing a talented yet dubious coach?

Cheers
GO DAWGS!!

I have no brain! Black, Black, Willingham, Black, Willingham, Willingham, Black.

I'm glad you bring so much to the table jh. You're like the forum equivalent of morbidly obese, retarded chuck. Why would you hire a gastric bypass requiring coach who never produced on the college level?

"...He's a .500 coach....All this can be interpreted to support critics as well as supporters..."

What, by any stretch of the imagination, could a UW supporter gain any solace in their .300 coach having a career .500 record? jeeze...

...london...we all know TW is a "good guy" (e.g., "clean"). But were looking for the reasons why he was hired beyond the original two...come on boys and mallory...just one?...

Reasons for hiring Ty other than his race and dedication to running a clean program have already been produced.

You ignore them.

It's pathetic.

focus, Pig, focus... Not sure if this is the best way to engage UW alumni but I guess not uncommon from those who see things in "black" and white. Still waiting on jh's explanation on the O'Leary hiring. I don't expect one but thought it prudent to give him another chance. My understanding is that Charlie's record with his recruits is under .500 and just about the stated .300 winning percentage. Let's give him another year and I believe the career average will be similar to the one he continues to belittle. The losses will come jh...

Like I stated above "PAC-10 experience which has helped in building a recruiting base on the westcoast (which is finally taking hold)." I will make it simple: 1) Positive impact to westcoast recruiting that has translated into commitments from young, intelligent and talented young men. 2) Unquestioned integrity which is quite different from being a "good guy" as you put it (I believe George O'Leary was also a "good guy" but did not pass the integrity test).

So, anything else to add other than an article from a San Francisco based reporter that only affirmed my opinion that TW is the right fit for UW.

Also still waiting on your thoughts on ND's decision criteria that, according to your decision criteria was white and dirty.

...I don't know why O'Leary was hired (although he last name was compelling). But he was an established coach that got caught in a lie...and was fired because of it. Willingham, on the other hand, totes his .500 record around and major college football programs throw millions of dollars his way (plus multi-million dollar buyouts). Go figure...

There are varying degrees of UW alumni as I am sure there are at ND. Some alumni prioritize W-L records as the only measure of success and some don't. Those millions that are thrown at every coach are part of the fixed costs of running a BCS football program. I believe the ROI on TW's and CW's contracts are very high and should not impact the university's ability to provide high quality education. If there is a coaching changing at UW after the 2008 season I will not chastise the school leadership and say it was wrong or pull my support. I have faith in TW that he will win and get us to a good bowl game next year and recieve a contract extension.

Cheers
GO DAWGS!!

jh, as long as we're answering questions about integrity, why don't stand by your word from a few days ago when you said you'd be back next season?

jh,
i'll be driving through oregon (unfortunately) on my way to Cailfornia for Christmas. Why don't you squeegee my windshield for me after you finish pumping my gas. I'll give you a $1 tip which you will undoubtedly use towards the purchase of a new white sheet.

JH, by your own admission, Ty is WAY SMARTER then you. You claim that he "totes this .500 record around and major college football programs throw millions his way." I bet you don't have millions thrown your way!

Gosh, he must be doing something right and no it's not his skin color but his integrity, honesty and character. He is trustworthy and seems to really captivate the people he speaks to directly, which you have not had the privilege. Also, he knows a thing or two about football having played on a division 1 college level (did you play?), was a QB which shows his leadership abilities and smarts, and has coached for over 13 years and as head coach of 3 big time programs. So as much as you hate it, his ND stint is actually perpetuating his coaching career, not his skin color. All this qualifies him to demand the millions that is thrown at him.

Now, you are right in ONE thing, the money will stop being "thrown" at him if he keeps losing. This further validates that this is NOT about his skin color. The only exception to this is ND that fired him because the good old boys network wanted him gone.

I'm surprised no one's seeing between the lines in the Turner push-out:
The "Big One" hasn't hit yet, only the tremor.
Shortly after LOI signing day in Feb., I predict we'll find out why Turner was pushed out when the new A.D. fires Ty and hires a new coach. Since the Seahawk season will be over then, Jim Mora will be free and clear to sign. Any bets those talks have already been informally finalized in the back rooms of prominent Husky boosters?

Go back to Eugene, MelloDawg!