Dude, you already made the right choice. Now enjoy your senior year and get ready for practice...

don't worry, once he sees pullman he'll know that for sure

I don't know about you guys, but it makes me laugh to think that while he's in the bottom in terms of ranking in the Huskies current class, he would be the top player in his class at WSU! Just a funny thought...keep up the great recruiting UW!!

Yeah - seriously. WSU is a decent school, compared to other land grant colleges, I guess. But the UW is an internationally renowned research institution. WSU's football program is periodically competitive but generally weak. Pullman is pretty bleak. No TV market. Seems like a pretty easy choice.

He needs to be honest with himself about whether he's willing to play defense at a superior school
with a much better football program than the Cougs.He will not be playing offense at the U.

Cory, you'll spend a year in Pullman the weekend you visit...besides we have a better looking cheerstaff and a much better carpet to play on...

Frankly, the way recruiting is going right now, we could use the extra scholly.

Here is an idea.

It is called, TIGHTEND!

6-4 216 lbs and can CATCH THE BALL!

If he wants to catch the ball and does not mind banging around, we have an opening for you!

Usually stories like this one bother me, but since we landed Polk after he decommitted from U$C a couple days ago, I guess I have no basis for my bitterness. Hopefully this kid ultimately makes the right decision and doesn't one day look back and regret it.

i know i'm not exactly unbiased, but i think there's a lot to be excited about around montlake right now. it seems like the huskies are starting to get some players who can really make a difference. this kid would be insane to pass that up for the washington agricultural college. in terms of eduaction and athletics i think it's a no brainer, but that's why i'm a husky.

He can get excited about playing for Mora after Ty gets us about 4 wins next year.

Don't be surprised if he de commits, not to divulge too much into his personal life but he has a serious girlfriend at WSU.

Personally FB > Relationships but you never know, he's 18

hey JJ we don't need your hater self running your mouth about TY when he is molding an incredible recruiting class

Anyways

BOB,

this johnny sears from michigane i was wondering if he is a go to come to UDUB or is their other options for him. if he is coming here how many years will he be able to play and when would he enroll? so pretty much any info on sears

one the last tranfers blew his chance and and never made it to the field what happen the houston?

I wouldn't worry to much about this when he goes to Pullman, he will hate it trust me I live there.

I'm not going to weigh in on this until I get the inside scoop from debatepro. I think he was at a debate tonight but hopefully he'll weigh in tomorrow. Also, Bob, is there anyway we could ban all posts other than debatepros? Do we have the technology to ban all IPs but his? It'd make this forum far more reliable and we wouldn't have to hear from the haters who are still mad about being 10th in the Pac-10.

Don't complain about debatepro. Obviously from his name he knows it all. I mean how can someone be so full of themselves to have a handle like that. He is just the kid we all remember from the school days who always raised his hand or would try and one up someone on a story they were telling in order to seem more important. It's ok. And yes debatepro your posts are as annoying as the people you complain about.

"about TY when he is molding an incredible recruiting class."

Is it Ty or Tormey? Tormey is the recruiting coordinator.

Cory, Like what was posted above -- this is the perfect time to go and look at Eastern Washington. It is cold, bone chilling cold. It snows and rarely melts. I knowhow being the top recruit may be appealing -- but seriously, if you want competition -- then come to UW. You want to be a reciever -- beat the players out. Ty wants you as a linebacker -- make him want you as a WR if that's what you want. And know, the recruiting classes only get bigger, faster and stronger and you will be going up against them for your spot on a team. If you don't want any of that...by all means, go to WSU.
Stars next to your name don't mean squat to what you do on the field...so come show us what you got.

Hey "pdxprpldawg", UW is a superior school with a much better football program than WSU? I'm a Husky myself, but how, exactly, can we make that claim given the way this decade has gone?

Reality check - We just lost our 3rd apple cup to them in the last 4 years. And WSU has finished with the better record every year since 2001. That's now 7 straight seasons WSU has been better that us. 7 straight seasons!??! Who would have ever thought that WSU could finish with a better record than UW 7 seasons in a row?? If you would have said that even after 2000, you would have been certifiably insane. Now both programs haven't been real exciting of late, that can't be disputed. But even I can admit a spade is a spade. We have to face the music. The facts can't be disputed. We are no longer a powerhouse, far from it, and how anyone can think otherwise given the events of the last 7 seasons is fooling themselves.

And, yeah, the commit list looks good - on paper - but we shouldn't be too excited about verbal commitments in mid-December. There's a long way to go until signing day. WSU might be in on one kid, but who's to say Oregon, Cal, USC, UCLA with whoever they hire, Erickson at ASU, even Riley at OSU aren't circling like sharks right now? You think Pete Carroll is just going to put his feet up on his desk and say "ah, well, player x committed to UW, we'll just give up." Don't you think they'll use the uncertainty of Willingham against them? If you don't, you are living in a Pollyanna world. We just fired our athletic director and Emmert needed to hold a press conference to announce that Willingham was staying. We couldn't be more unstable right now.

I don't think any of us should be crowing about anything right now. Let's just hope these kids stick to their commitments, and better yet, they all make it into school and pan out!

Please go so we can pick up a decommit or 2 from UCLA when Dewayne Walker becomes our DC. Bye Bye Baer.

Word is we might have some Miami, FL kids out in January. So we got one from USC, maybe no one from the 'canes...

Jacory Harris, QB, who already commited to Miami and his HS teammate WR Tommy Streeter.

While MacKay might be looking at WSU too, we also have a chance at Donovan Carter, a UCLA commit...

the miami kids sound legit, but hard to know how much interest they really have.

PSkansi, I see what you're saying but a few bad years does not wipe away all UW has accomplished. Plus, they have had 4 straight non-winning seasons and haven't won a Rose Bowl this decade so it's not like they are exactly lighting it up lately either. --------------------If I was Mackey and saw just the few slots UW has left, I wouldn't jeopardize my schollie by looking at WSU. Is it really worth it to get a free visit? His girlfriend could always try to transfer to UW if he really needs to be with her that badly. Honestly, there thompson, Carroll, Solomon, Hester, Woods, Carter, and probably a few others on the board so if he risks it, he could easily be one of the odd men out. Corey, get it while the gettin' is good!!!!!!!!

debatepro=troll

You all can hate on Debatepro but his posts are accurate, unbiased, and factual.

That is more than I can say for some of the Ty Haters on this blog that regurgitate the same info over and over again like a child stomping his feet until he ia allowed to have his way.

debatepro is purely objective and uses proof and logic in all of his posts. He never ever brings in questionable evidence or ignores counter-evidence. debatepro should be UW's next AD.

Ty 'Haters' DON'T have facts? Are you kidding me, what information are you looking at. Can't be 11-25, 1-8, that's for sure.

Husky Fan - I doubt if his girlfriend could get into the UW - hence she goes to WSU. She could always go to Bellevue CC. She probably would beable to get in there I know Softy would put in a good word - although she maybe tained with cougar dung and even Softy could not overcome that.

Love and peace my brothers - no more haters on this board please. All is good in the land of the Sun Dodgers.

Typologists like to talk about character, stability, and integrity. Along with off-field victories.
More objective fans can point to actual numbers and facts that Typologists don't want to hear about. Like career .500, 11-25, 6-20, 1-8.

Husky Fan - I doubt if his girlfriend could get into the UW - hence she goes to WSU. She could always go to Bellevue CC. She probably would beable to get in there I know Softy would put in a good word - although she maybe tained with cougar dung and even Softy could not overcome that.

Love and peace my brothers - no more haters on this board please. All is good in the land of the Sun Dodgers.

A 6'4" linebacker would be a nice piece for the Dawgs. Size is something you can't coach.

Hate to give bad news am I live in the LA area the story here is Norm Chow is the front runner to get the UCLA job if he does he made the comment he will try and retain Walker as dc

Cory,
If you value any loyalty go to WSU, these guys in Seattle will turn on you after one drop ball or missed tackle(if you play defense). Ala Shaun Alexander or Tyronne Willingham. It's all about what have you done for me today with these people.

E.J. Woods is in Boudler, Colo., this weekend. Weather: 14 degrees, 3 inches of snow on the ground . . . but sunny. I hope he has a miserable time there. Come on E.J., join the Purple Gang. Also, today's L.A. Times says Rick N. is being interviewed this weekend for UCLA. Chow seems to be the frontrunner but story says there has been an outpouring of support from alums and former players for Rick N.
Malibu

Husky fan in NY, you and I and many others here know our history. But honestly, half the kids we recruit couldn't tell you what they had for breakfast. This isn't just about WAZZU vs UW, this is about more than that. They live in the self-absorbed, NOW generation, and it's all about right now, or at least the very recent past. Do you think these kids care about what happened in the 90's? Alums can hang our hats on the past, but in recruiting that stuff doesn't really matter to the recruits themselves. If tradition was really that important, we'd have had top-10 classes and been in bowl games every year this millenium, and that hasn't happened.

I just think everyone needs to chill out now that the class is almost full. I hope we still stay on these kids and remind them about their commitments next month, and most of all, get them to sign on the dotted line. It is still a long way to go until signing day!

I'm just wondering, what is it with Husky fans? Has it ever occured to anyone that WSU just might be the first choice for some kids. Personally, I wasn't nearly as excited when I got my acceptance letter to the UW as I was when I found out I was going to WSU. You can knock on Pullman all you want, but it's a nice small town community with a lot of character. One person here talked about how cold it is, that's called winter. It's also quite hot there, that's called summer. There are also two more, spring and fall. That's right, 4 different seasons rather than just... rain. Not to mention the U district is, well... a dump. As for all this greatness around the UW football program, last I checked we've had a better record for 7 years straight and won 3 of the past 4 apple cups. Don James left the UW a long time ago, and they've been meager ever since. Those glory days are long gone. This kid should be free to go where he wants. If he chooses WSU, great. If he chooses UW, more power to him.

PS- Just remember, Keith Jackson, Gary Larson, Paul Allan, Edward R. Murrow and Sherman Alexie were all Cougs. Tank Johnson, Jerramy Stevens and Ted Bundy were all Huskies.

NC Husky,

Ah yes, so Willingham haters regurgitate the same old facts. Tell me something honestly, would you care to give us ANY facts whatsoever that indicate why he should stay? Awww, nope, didn't think so. See, this is the Cult of Personality that Willingham lets congeal around him: no facts whatsoever, just blind faith.

11-25 Overall
1-8 NW Schools
6-20 Pac-10
Worst Defense Ever

Are you tired of seeing those numbers? Why do you hate facts? Would you care to give me some statistics which indicate that MY numbers are invalid when evaluating his class?

Oh hey, here are more for you:

#18 Recruiting class in 2003
#22 Recruiting class in 2004

These are your seniors which many Willingham supporters, likely you, claim have absolutely no talent. Perhaps you should follow Mackay over to WSU if he goes there, maybe THAT program fits the lowered expectations you now have for your college football team.

That's quite a skewed list of grads Tacoma Coug.

Tacoma Coug (11:18) Thanks for the comment on Keith Jackson. In my younger days on the East Coast, I always wondered why KJ bad-mouthed the West Coast teams on National TV. Usually, it was ND vs. USC, every year, and his descriptions were like "The ND RB plowed ahead ferociously for a hard-fought 3 yard gain." But the USC RB "Got free in the corner when the ND defenders fell down, and he managed to score" (from 85 yards out). He also belittled the other teams on National TV, Cal, UCLA, etc. Now I know why, he was not a "West Coast" guy, but a Coug.

Hey Mello, you really oughta shut your trap and behave before debatepro kicks you off the board! You and your facts can get the heck out of here! NC Husky said that debatepro was the only unbiased, objective reasoner on this board and obviously NC Husky was right!!?? You crazy people blinded by your hatred of Ty make up insane rants about stuff that is obviously unture and purely motivated by Ty hatred. Like 7 straight seasons worse than the Cougs, where are you coming up with that kind of crazy talk?? A more rational objective thinker on here put it best when he said "so we've had a couple down years so what?" Seriously Mello, you need to be more objejctive!! 7 straight seasons worse than the Cougs is really just a few down years!! Have you forgotten that we went to the Rose Bowl 7 years ago??? That's the only fact that matters to recruits obviously, that we went to the Rose Bowl in 2001.
So yeah you need to be more objective like NC Husky, HFNY, Husky 2002 and debatepro!! And face reality just like they do!!

Mello, can't argue with the W-L record over the last three years but the recruiting rankings of 2003 and 2004 were quite skewed due to high rated recruits who never played a down for UW.

Maybe good classes don't pan out on the field because of coaching turnover. Have you ever thought of that? Have you ever thought how having 3 different HCs and up to 5 different position coaches in your career affects player development? The definite answer is to change the HC again, and maybe we can change position coaches every week, depending on how we did that game. You are a moron.

Maybe he can be the next ryan leaf. Just coog it! Roll tide! (Mike Price with a stripper)

Thanks craziness for saving me the typing time.

Mello,

Why is it that you seem to think you can use nonobjective facts from the past to predict the future success of the dawgs?

Your stats are true however, where is the anecdotal data needed to make an informed analysis of your and other Ty hater's rants?

As for the past. All things, even sports are cyclical. When included with the state of the program when Ty took over, the past stats of the last six years are not unexpected. I would suggest Nebraska, ND, Fl. state and Miami four storied programs support my assertion. So when you review the past objectively it may not be a bad coaching job over the past three years that has brought us to this point.

Moving forward, the degree to which the dawgs have been competitive while playing the toughest schedule in the nation and the current outstanding recruiting class gives reason for optimism for the future of the program with the current head coach.

Do you feel me? No emotional outburst of how "I" think things should be. Just an honest evaluation of the way things are!

Remember when Tank Johnson tackled Gesser and broke his leg. And then the incompetent Kegel came in, and then we beat the coogs in triple overtime? And then they lost the Rose Bowl. In the words of Gesser "If we don't win this game, the whole season was for nothing". He was right, and they had no Rose Bowl win to show for it. You see when you actually get there once a century, you need to actually WIN the game.

And honestly, Husky Fans are some of the best in the country. How many programs would see their fans still largely support the team despite playing at stardard far below to what they are accustomed? UW has still averaged a ton of fans despite the facts Mellow has posted (though everyone is aware of them now and he doesn't need to keep posting them). Honestly also believe that all the loyal fans will be rewarded with a bowl game (finally).

Jim Mora knows as well as anyone that it takes more than 3 years to build the foundation for a culture of ongoing success in college football. As head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, Mora had this to say about Frank Beamer's program at Virginia Tech: "There's a certain culture they have up there, they are all grounded kids and we want to have that same kind of culture here."

In this, his 21st year at Va. Tech., Beamer takes the Hokies to a BCS berth in the Orange Bowl as ACC champs with an 11-2 record and #6 national ranking. Beamer's overall record at Va. Tech. is an enviable 164 wins, 84 losses, two ties, and 15 straight bowl appearances.

Frank Beamer is a finalist for the 2007 Bear Bryant coach of the year award (which he won in 1999).

No wonder Mora envied coach Beamer's success.

So what about Beamer's first 6 years before the string of 15 straight bowl appearances? His first 6 years at Va. Tech. produced a dismal 24 wins, 42 losses, and 2 ties, with no bowl appearances. That 6 year record stacks up like this:

Year W - L - T

1987 2 - 9
1988 3 - 8
1989 6 - 4 - 1
1990 6 - 5
1991 5 - 6
1992 2 - 8 - 1

Now compare Willingham's current Husky record of 11 wins and 25 losses:

Year W - L - T

2005 2 - 9
2006 5 - 7
2007 4 - 9

The numbers speak for themselves. Willingham's first two years produced a better record than Beamer's. After three years they are roughly the same.

There seems to be a general consensus on this blog that Willingham must win 8 games in his 4th year. Yet Beamer managed to hold onto his job despite winning only 6 games at the same point in his tenure. More telling is the fact that Beamer survived despite the fact things actually got worse with losing records over the next two years, including a disastrous 6th season in 1992 which saw the Hokies holding 4th quarter leads in 7 of 11 games, but winning only 2 and finishing the season at 2-8-1.

So, I ask you, where would the Hokies be today if they pulled the plug on coach Beamer after his fourth year with only 6 wins? We can only speculate. But we do know for a fact that their faith in coach Beamer has translated into an enviable record of success. Just ask Jim Mora ...

"Ty 'Haters' DON'T have facts?"

Of course they have facts. They also ignore both facts and context to make their case. In this respect, they have been consistent for 3 years now. And it's also why they have no credibility otuside of their tiny circle of sadness.

Enough said Spokane Dawg

We should just cut and paste SpokaneDawg's post everytime the Ty haters post another rant.

I am not against free speech or dissenting opinions, but I tire of weak arguments rehashed over and over again.

"Maybe good classes don't pan out on the field because of poor coaching. Have you ever thought of that?"

Fixed that for ya, Idiot.

Groundhog Day.

Returning to a theater near you.

can't win in your own building. Can't recruit. Win only four games in that stadium? Please.

NC Husky, thanks. Perhaps I'll re-post on a new thread. My argument should defeat those who rely on nothing more than W-L record in the early years of a rebuilding program. Clearly, there is more to it. Perhaps we can move the debate forward with meaningful evaluation of those other considerations.

Oh yeah, and what about Cory Mackay? Cougars will promise him a shot on offense only because they want to "steal" a recruit from the Huskies. Wulff won the job because he said he hates the purple and gold. The Cougs number one priority always has been and always will be to beat the Huskies. The Huskies number one priority always has been and always will be to win the conference championship, and more. Of course that almost always means beating the in-state rival in your last game, but we aspire to more, and that is the difference. It won't hurt our program so much as it will hurt Cory Mackay if he lets the Cougs use him as a pawn for their recruiting battle. Cory could be a stud for the Husky defense, or he could go play receiver behind Jared Karstetter, Skylar Stormo and a whole slew of 6'4" receivers already committed to WSU. Think Cory, think . . .

Cory should probably go the WSU with what we have coming in. He is thinking where he can play the earliest.

Jawood, he isn't thinking. Karstetter is the real deal. No way Mackay plays ahead of Karstetter. No way.

Yeah, Stanback didn't improve at all from his Junior to Senior year. Moron.

Spokane Dawg nice comment but you can't compare tw to Frank Beamer

tw 76-76-1
Beamer 198-105-4

One has a winning record the other does not

not to brag about myself, but my previous post applies perfectly to Robert's response to Spokane Dawg:

""Ty 'Haters' DON'T have facts?"

Of course they have facts. They also ignore both facts and context to make their case. In this respect, they have been consistent for 3 years now. And it's also why they have no credibility otuside of their tiny circle of sadness."

Robert, your point about TW's record vs. Beamer's only reiterates Spokane Dawg's point. Beamer has been at Vtech for 21 years. TW, in 7 years at Stanford led them to 4 bowl games and a record 44-36-1 thats pretty impressive for a coach of Stanford and his record at ND was above .500.

Anyone want to suggest that over time the ACC is anything close to equal to the PAC-10 in top to bottom quality??? Facts, folks...These are great debates...another difference is the expectations at V Tech were completely different that those at UW...The reality is TW absolutely deserves the opportunity he is receiving...he has done the really dirty work, he should get another two years to prove his coaching ability...Fact, if UW had ASU's non conference sched this year they would have won six games. Fact, after four struggling years at Stanford, TW went 8-4, 5-6, 9-3. Going 22-13 in those years at a real disadvantaged place like Stanford is a major accomplishment. I question whether a lot of other current PAC-10 coach could have done that. Apparently a lot of notional types thought so too as TW was named coah of the year (national) went to the Rose Bowl and was hired by ND. None of that happened because EVERYON thought he was a lousy coach. He has 1) cleaned up the mess and 2) produced solid recruting classes and now he gets to go out and win some games....but regardless , this program is MUCH better off than it was.

Ty has the credentials: his 44 wins were the most at Stanford since Pop Warner left the program in 1932; coach of the year in 2002.

Uh, bomber, I hate to break it to you, but if we'd had ASU's non-conf schedule we'd have gone at best 5-7, and we'd still finish last in our league. It's hard to win 6 games when you go 2-7 in the Pac-10.

Even if you figure that we'd somehow be less fatigued after playing SJSU, SDSU and Colorado than we were after playing Syracuse, Ohio State and Boise State -- and that by being "fresher" we'd somehow magically pick up another conference win after playing the lighter non-conf sched -- I put it to you that CU, which beat Oklahoma and Texas Tech, would by no means be an automatic win for a team that lost to Arizona, WSU, a depleted UCLA and Oregon State.

Robert, I can compare TW to Beamer, and did. If you want to make another argument based on overall career coaching records in different programs under vastly different circumstances, then go ahead. But what is your point? I made a specific point. Can you refute it?

Spot on 3 of 5, spot on . . .

If this was Ty, vs Hushy fans, in a court of law,
the prosecutor has Ty's win, lose, recored to back his charges that Ty is not a great coach, the defensive lawyer has Ty lovers to give testimony on how great a coach Ty is, who do you think would win the case?

You are right I can't refute what was written.
How could you refute any point given about a winning coach and a just average coach.

The point I was trying to make it does not take a coach with any ability 3 years to turn around a football program. Let's look at Steve Spurrier's first 3 years at football power Duke.

I think we can all agree at UW lowest point UW is still better than Duke will ever be.

Steve Spurrier
1987 Duke 5-6
1988 Duke 7-3-1
1989 Duke 8-4
Total 20-13-1 after 3 years

tw
2005 UW 2-9
2006 UW 5-7
2007 UW 4-9
Total 11-25 after 3 years.

These numbers speak for themselves

Spokane, you brought up an excellent comparison. Obviously Robert either missed your argument, or is simply refusing to properly address the evidence you presented. Most likely it's the latter, since his response failed to engage in your comparison.

Beamer is a great example of a coach that just needed enough time to build his program into something excellent. 7 years is a long leash, and it paid off big time for the Hokies. Ferentz needed four years to get the Hawkeyes to the top. It took Croom 4 years to stabilize Mississippi State. It took Rich Rodriguez 4 years to turn West Virginia into a power. Arizona is willing to give Stoops 5 years. The list could go on and on.

The sad reality is that the Robert types only use selective facts and ignore counter-evidence to prove their predetermined point, which, of course, is always the same: Ty has already failed at UW. The slogan is as unfounded as it is old.

Last I looked, Duke isn't in the pac-10. And no, the numbers aren't speaking for themselves, it's you that's doing the interpretation.

At the low ebb, the dawgs would've been hard pressed to beat a buffed up nunnery, let alone a pac-10 (or even ACC) team.

GIGO.

While I'm at it...

Tacoma Coug, it's perfectly ok to be pleased with your coug experience. Teasing cougs and cougdom is as natural as rivalries between brothers.

I'm assuming that you're operating with a fairly truncated time line. Try picking up a copy of "The Glory of Washington" and scan through it. Then ponder whether or not such a tome exists anywhere in all of cougdom.

ok, keep looking...

looking...

There. That'll keep him out of trouble for a while.

old dawg,

I think your analogy is just a bit off. Teasing cougs and cougdom is as natural as rivalries between a brother and his retarded sibling.

What Tacoma Coug is trying to tell you is that it's just not nice to make fun of the handicapped.

he looks pretty slim and doesn't impress me as a starter. Let him go and save the scholarship for a last minute change of mind player.

You are right Duke is not in the Pac ten but neither is V Tech. Someone brought up Beamer I just gave my thought to his comment. Also what a sad state for all you so called Huskey fans I think the comment was at the low end the Dawgs would be hard pressed to beat a buffed up nunnery (let alone a pac ten or even an acc team) if you think that little of UW Football go follow another team with some lower expectations about winning.

See you all next year when the same people will be writing the same thing tw is close to becoming a winning coach we need to give him one more year. You all will be right tw will get one more year but it won't be at UW.

See Robert, the reason why nobody takes your arguements seriously is because you purposely avoid addressing the actual arguments that were made concerning Beamer. The point was that it took him 7 years to bring that team to championship level, and once he did that VTech was a nasty team. With this evidence in hand, it shows that the jury (for many husky fans) is still out on Ty. Not that he deserves 7 years, but 4 or 5 years is justifiable.

The fact that you purposely ignore this argument that is well grounded in factual evidence, you chose to retort with ad hominem attacks on fans that you disagree with, and you chose to pretend that you can predict the future, further undermines any credibility you might hope to garner.

Robert, your comparison of Spurrier's head coaching debut at Duke with Willingham's current record at Washington lacks any validity whatsoever. You might as well compare Spurrier's NFL record to Willingham's Husky coaching record. You'd rather ignore those numbers though,huh? Actually a more meaningful comparison would look at the record in the head coaching debut for both, Spurrier at Duke and Willinham at Stanford. You'd probably rather not look at those number either though, huh?

To both spokanedawg and 3 of 5. I don't really care what both of you think. You both think I am wrong thats ok with me you have your opinion I have mine. I will say this I hope I am wrong and UW does great and yes I have seen the numbers from stanford spokane. I just can't put blind faith in a career .500 coach. For me a coach takes all the criticism and should never call out his players again this is my opinion from what I have read so far you think different.

So for now we can agree to disagree. Thank you for your comments. I think we both can agree we want the same thing the return of Championship football