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July 23, 2008 3:50 PM
Nanny Seattle
Posted by Kate Riley
Seattle's nanny-ness is official.
Reason, a feisty magazine with a libertarian bent, has deemed the Emerald City as the second worst nanny-state city in America. Only Chicago ranked lower on the list of 35 featured in the magazine's September issue.
It's not talked about much in tight-smile Seattle, but this is a very, um, nurturing place. Our citizens' best interests are carefully tended to by government that knows best.
Tut. Tut. You mustn't use plastic bags. Uh-uh-uh, you put that banana peel in the wrong bin, dear. Try again. Well, smoke if you must, but go outside and pace out 25 feet from the door of that public building. (The latter is a state law.) For a full, shockingly long list, see Jim Vesely's July 13 column.
For its list Reason ranked the nation's 35th most populous cities in eight areas: alcohol, tobacco, sex, guns, gambling, drugs, freedom of movement, food and "other."
As for Seattle, the article suggests Seattle has an "identity conflict." On the one hand it is tolerant of street protests and marijuana use. But it has restrictions on strip clubs and card rooms. "In the last five years, the nanny impulse has gone into hyperdrive," the magazine states, referring to neighborhood bans on high-alcohol beers and the "nanny odor" of some of the city's environmental initiatives.
On the other side of the nanny spectrum are the freewheeling cities of Las Vegas, Miami and Denver. Portland ranks as the 7th least nanny-ish city.
Posted by Dave
12:26 PM, Jul 24, 2008
It's consistent with a populace that swoons over Algore and Obama. Just look at the Seattle response to Gore's latest back to the stone age proposal. I'm not surprised.
Posted by T_L_F
3:54 PM, Jul 25, 2008
I would say if you're talking stereotypes then people who hire nannies wouldn't be the Obama and Al Gore people but the more elite Republican types. That is if we're going to stereotype.
Posted by danny
9:39 PM, Jul 25, 2008
you say nanny, I say foo foo.
Posted by boring guy
6:45 AM, Jul 26, 2008
Seattle is perfect for me! I try to get up there once a year. I take the bus from Olympia. I don't smoke and I don't drink. I'm too shy to look twice at a woman. And I'm tight when it comes to money, so I MIGHT buy a snack at the Market, but nothing else. Seattle ain't no problem for me!
Posted by Dave
9:23 PM, Jul 27, 2008
T_L_F - Many stereotypes are valid and I'm sure you've probably used a few yourself, beside the one you use in jest (it was in jest, right?) .
But rather than stereotype, let's just take a poll of Mayor Nickels, the City Council, Gore, Obama, T_L_F, etc.:
Here's the question: When it comes to issues like global warming, trans-fats, smoking, recycling, plastic bag use, etc. - do you believe that each individual should be allowed to make their own decisions and the market should rule, or do you believe that the government (at whatever level) needs to pass regulations/laws for the people's own good, to make them do the "right thing"?
Posted by T_L_F
2:41 PM, Jul 28, 2008
Dave, as far as global warming, recycling, plastic bags and smoking, these are all things that when one person does the action, it effects all of us, so, yes I believe the government should pass laws/regulations because even if you and I are smart enough not to smoke in a room full of kids, others are not and we are all paying for their healthcare as they get older. The transfats is along the same line, but I'm not sure you can or should regulate that. Along the same line, if conservatives want the government out of people's business, that should also count when it comes to wiretapping, birth control, sex-ed in schools, etc.
Posted by Dave
12:03 PM, Jul 30, 2008
T_L_F - I agree in consistency. I don't want conservatives pushing wire tapping (a dangerous weapon in either sides' hands), birth control (I didn't know they were - I thought it was no-growth Dems against large families), sex-ed in schools (keep it out of the schools and let the individual families handle it).
I guess the difference between us is I'd rather not have anyone else telling me what to do, and you're ok with it as long as it's your side telling others what to do. Do I have that right? :-)
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Posted by Glenn
9:12 AM, Jul 24, 2008
What a surprise! The elected socialist officials are ranked #2 in the nation on a socialist list. Congrats Mayor Nikels and the Seattle City Council!