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July 18, 2008 4:04 PM

Rossi on KING 5's Up Front

Posted by David Postman

KING 5's Allen Schauffler and I interviewed Dino Rossi for this Sunday’s Up Front program. The show airs at 9:30 a.m. on KING 5 and at 8 p.m. on Northwest Cable News. In the interview, Rossi talks about his backers at the Building Industry Association of Washington, what he would have done with tribal gambling compacts, and other issues.

We also continued the discussion for an interview you can watch now on-line. In that portion of the interview, I ask Rossi why he refuses to answer questions about issues he says aren’t part of his campaign. Here’s part of what he said:

I only have so much time to talk to the voters in the state of Washington. ... This is my campaign. I’ll talk about the issues I want to. When people have the guts enough to run for office they can actually talk about whatever issues they want to talk about.

Watch the on-line extra here and be sure to watch the program Sunday.

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Posted by Seek the Trooth

4:57 PM, Jul 18, 2008

Thanks for the link, David.

Interesting non-answers.

I'm crurious ... he talks about change being needed in state agencies but he has repeatedly declined to say what kinds of changes he would make. Instead, he says he would appoint directors who would assess the agencies and make recommendations to him for changes. So has he given any indication WHO he would appoint? I haven't seen anything about it.

Posted by particle Man

5:12 PM, Jul 18, 2008

The show will be interesting to watch...if only to watch as the very clever Rossi manages to evade every question you ask him.
Did he really call the cost for his 8 lane bridge minutia? What a huckster and flimflamming scam artist.

Posted by Daniel K

5:54 PM, Jul 18, 2008

"I only have so much time to talk to the voters in the state of Washington. ... This is my campaign. I’ll talk about the issues I want to. When people have the guts enough to run for office they can actually talk about whatever issues they want to talk about."

What a jerk. This isn't about what issues matter to Dino Rossi, this is about the issues the matter to the voters of Washington state. Heaven forbid that he would ever actually respond on issues that matter to the people in this state.

Posted by upchuck

5:56 PM, Jul 18, 2008

"This is my campaign. I’ll talk about the issues I want to"

really? would this be his attitude as governor too? he seems to completely disregard that the governor's job is to serve the public and answer to voter's interests. i can just see him saying: i know the voters want such and such but i'm the gov and i'll adress the issues that i want to.

Posted by jk

6:08 PM, Jul 18, 2008

Postman: I know you and your fellow liberal media members are trying to do everything to help get Gregiore re elected but why not trying to ask Rossi about the issues that matter instead of meaningless crap. Is the above quote really a fair representation of what he said during his whole interview?

Rossi is a disciplined campaigner and will not answer your constant attempts at turning to campaign into a circus.

No Rossi will not hand over his tax return, he earns money in the private sector and it is none of your business. The Gregoire's have lived off the taxpayer all there lives, but this is not relevant to the campaign.
Rossi is pro life but who cares he is not running for the supreme court or President.

If you like what Rossi has to say on the issues great if you want nothing to get done for 4 more years vote for Gregoire. I know Rossi is the first Republican not to play your game but get over it!!! Ask Gregoire some hard questions for a change. Like what the hell have you done the last 4 years other then pay off the unions?

Posted by Daniel K

6:16 PM, Jul 18, 2008

jk said, "If you like what Rossi has to say on the issues great".

That's the thing jk, it's kind of hard to know if one likes what Rossi has to say on the issues when he refuses to say anything on the issues!

Rossi talks about having the "guts" to run for office, but he's shying away from open disclosure about his business dealings and finances and talking about issues, much as a coward would do.

Posted by Jimd

6:35 PM, Jul 18, 2008

Rossi has every right as a candidate to be arrogant, self-absorbed...and even blow-off the legitimate interest the public has in his opinions and policies regarding everything from abortion to green house gases.
He's made it very clear - he will not discuss anything he does not want to discuss, won't disclose his financial associations....and basically says, "take me or leave me."
I doubt he'll even get the 50% he got last time...

I actually wish we had a more viable republican candidate for governor.
The democratic monopoly in Olympia makes me a little nervous.
But Rossi has no specific plan to reduce government spending or the projected deficit - the one issue many are willing to overlook other faults for - and sure seems to have a higher opinion of himself than the people he not-so-humbly wants to represent.

No way.

Posted by harry

7:13 PM, Jul 18, 2008

jk, forget the current "debate" on this blog. but i have to say i'm really sick of you yahoos who talk about state employees "living off the taxpayer." you get services from those employees, from roads to public health protection to enough controls that people aren't dumping paint thinner into your water supply. (or in your case, maybe there are). and the fact is most of public employees earn every penny. what you are is jealous (unless of course you's an R state employee misusing state equipment). I've worked both public and private, mostly the former, and i can tell you, i've seen more bureaucracy in the private sector than public. By the way, public employees pay taxes too.

Posted by yardwork

7:38 PM, Jul 18, 2008

Rossi's right.....he's going to talk about the issues he thinks are important....he's trying to lead on those issues.

It's not arrogant....it's leadership Daniel K. ....Who said Allen Shaufler or David Postman decide what issues are important to the voters?

If the voters disagree with Rossi...he won't get elected.

Posted by independent girl

7:47 PM, Jul 18, 2008

So, David, when I watch Up Front on Sunday, I'll be curious to see whether what I come away from the show with is anything like the representation you've given us here.

You've shown yourself to be no fan of Dino Rossi, so I suspect you may have cherry picked a few unflattering tidbits to scintillate the blogosphere.

I don't care about Mr. Rossi's tax returns. Do you have to fill out F-1's for the PDC? It can feel somewhat invasive. If and when he's elected, we can ask him for a more full disclosure. In the meantime, I imagine he's just protecting himself and his family from the media's disparagement of him for earning a good living.

Let us decide what we think of his performance after we see it. So far, I'm impressed by the guy. If Christine Gregoire has done such a fantastic job, then why can't she think of anything more clever to say than that Dino Rossi is just like George Bush. THIS JUST IN . . . George Bush isn't running for Governor of Washington state. Get a better ad writer, please.

Posted by BillJ

8:58 PM, Jul 18, 2008

I will pass up Sundays show, I’m sure this is a gimmick to increase viewer ship of a dying time slot.

Posted by Winston Smith

9:31 PM, Jul 18, 2008

David, did you happen to ask Rossi about his long relationship with Melvin Heide, as reported here: http://tinyurl.com/5sukp6

Posted by JimD

1:23 AM, Jul 19, 2008

Independent Girl,
The only grief Postman has given Rossi on this blog is over Rossi's stubborn refusal to answer relevant policy questions?
Please reference any other opinion regarding Rossi posted by David to support you attack on his journalistic credibility, okay?

Sorry folks, but the press DOES ask the questions on our behalf.
That's their job.
When Rossi says things like, "...I only have so much time...I'll talk about the things I want to talk about.." during a PRESS interview no less, he's refusing to answer MY questions through my agent, the press.
That lack of forthrightness is virtually unprecedented with any candidate for any position -- at least any actually interested in getting elected.

And although it's perhaps none of our business exactly how much money he makes (althouth his skill as a businessman is touted by his supporters as a supposed qualification), it's CERTAINLY our business who he has financial dealings with - something he clearly wants to continue hiding from the public.
An employer doesn't wait to check a new-hires' references until after he's handed the cash register keys.
Rossi needs to come clean to prove he DOESN'T have anything to hide, just like everyone else.

If Rossi refuses to be accountable, forthright and truthful during his campaign, why would you expect him be accountable, forthright and truthful on the job?
Wait till he's elected before checking if he's fit for office?
You've got to be kidding?
It's frankly inexplicable to me why anyone would give ANY politician that much trust, particularly one with Rossi's shady past and a contempt for the honest truth to match.

Posted by Jimd

2:14 AM, Jul 19, 2008

In the overtime clip you linked in your story, Rossi's refusal to speculate where he'd cut the budget without having his attorney's present was stunning.
Hope its saved for the bloopers reel.

So was his response to the fact that his transportation numbers do not match DOT's like he claims, at which point seems to start explaining how he wants to build a cheaper bridge than DOT forecasts -- thin quickly segues into how Gregoire tells different stories to folks on either side of the bridge, without answering the question...?
Say what?
You two let him off too easy on that one.

He was obviously nervous and uncomfortable addressing isssues not of his choosing - as if accountability to the citizens is a big pain in the azz.
I'd expect his "none of your business" attitude from someone in private business.
Good haircut, nice suit, but hardly executive-level public servant material from what I saw.

Posted by jan

10:14 AM, Jul 19, 2008

After watching that interview I wouldn't count on Rossi to get anything done in transportation. His own transportation plan appears to be billions over budget and will obviously be years behind schedule before he figures it out.

His plan on the 520 bridge would basically have the state start over. We can't afford that.

Rossi complains about companies not locating in Bellevue even as that town experiences the biggest building and job boom in the state's history. Huh?

When it comes to transportation, it appears that Dino Rossi doesn't know what he's talking about. Either that, or he's clueless and actually believes his rhetoric.

He's offering the same types of avoidance answers that stalled the state legislature for most all of the 1990s when he was in the Senate.

Cha. Cha. Cha.

No thanks.

How about some straight talk?

Posted by JimD

11:17 AM, Jul 19, 2008

...and the sad part it, his transportation plan is the only real plan he offers.
His whole campaign seems to be, "Gregoire is so insane I don't need to offer any viable proposals....just give me the damn job and let me wing-it once I get there...pay no attention to the developers behind the green curtain...."

Posted by hinton

11:38 AM, Jul 19, 2008

Will, JimD, you've finally hit on the truth.

Queen Chrissy has been such an unbelievable disaster as governor (I bet you and your fellow fringers are proud of a governor who's managed to drop us into a $2.7 billion outhouse) on so many issues that yeah, anyone not blinded by their BDS would pretty much settle for ANY other individual for governor.

After all, so MANY morons are all about CHANGE, right? Well, if any leader needed to be replaced, it's the one responsible for the largest deficit in this state's history.

As much as I despise Rossi for his pseudo-conservatism (as opposed to the real thing) ABC is the plan: ANYONE but Chrissy.

Posted by JimD

12:23 PM, Jul 19, 2008

Hinton,
I appreciate your frank honesty about why you support Rossi.
I'm not so inclined to jump to just "anyone" - especially someone funded by developers who's best interests are under-regulated, short-sighted growth matched with a precipitous panic to balance the budget at any cost to our northwest aesthetic and carefully crafted quality of life.

The country is in a highly dynamic economic situation right now.
This is not the time to slap-up any old thing in any old place to create jobs and additional tax revenue.
We'll have to live with the effects of Rossi's and his funder's agenda long after this temporary budget condition is resolved in a more deliberate, thoughtful manner.
If you haven't been to Texas or other extraordinarily business-friendly states, you may not realize what Rossi and his funders represent, or what a perfect storm of danger they represent to the state with the added excuse that it's necessary to balance the budget.
Better we pay more to maintain our quality of life, than make it more affordable for those who do not value our unique, northwest attributes anyway.

Posted by BillJ

12:57 PM, Jul 19, 2008

“This is not the time to slap-up any old thing in any old place to create jobs and additional tax revenue."

Your saying stay the course, these past few years under the most incompetent Governor we ever had and it is fine with you and want more of the same.

Sorry to say, you have no clue what she has done to us. You type to pass the time of day with not one direct answer to anyone’s questions.

Posted by Truth

2:42 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"Rossi talks about having the "guts" to run for office, but he's shying away from open disclosure about his business dealings and finances and talking about issues, much as a coward would do."


Wow that's rich to hear liberals talk about openness and such, especially when they have done everything they could to keep the workings of state government from the people.

The people have had to repeatedly take the Gregoire government to court in order to get them to allow the public access to the workings of state governmment.

Posted by JustWhy

2:49 PM, Jul 19, 2008

LIBERALS:

Please tell me why it is BAD BAD BAD when George Bush turns a surplus into a deficit but GOOD GOOD GOOD when Democrat Christine Gregoire and her Democrat State Legislature hegemony turn a billion dollar surplus into a $27 billion deficit?

Perhaps you are just mindless partisans?

Posted by JimD

2:50 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"...Your saying stay the course, these past few years under the most incompetent Governor we ever had and it is fine with you and want more of the same..."

No, that's not what I said at all.
Read it again.
I said we shouldn't rush to throw-up under-regulated growth that will forever scar our state in some frantic attempt to generate more state revenue.

What question haven't I answered?

Posted by JimD

2:56 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"...Please tell me why it is BAD BAD BAD when George Bush turns a surplus into a deficit but GOOD GOOD GOOD when Democrat Christine Gregoire and her Democrat State Legislature hegemony turn a billion dollar surplus into a $27 billion deficit?..."

Who said the deficit is GOOD GOOD GOOD..?
No one here, that's for sure.

I think we're saying the Rossi cure is worse than the disease itself.

Posted by UpFrontViewer

3:08 PM, Jul 19, 2008

Postman you ignorant moron! Perhaps in journalism school they didn't teach you about how government works. There was this SUPREME COURT case called ROE v WADE. In that case they decided abortion was legal.

Now pleas tell me how the governor of the state of Washington is going to overturn a SUPREME COURT decision? HINT: The name SUPREME kind of clues you in to the fact that the decision is enduring, e.g. SUPREME.

Why would any SANE voter, especially one who commutes over the Alaskan Way Viaduct daily that is about to collapse due to the 7 years of inaction of Democrat governors, why would such a person give a rat's ass about abortion?

Rossi already made very clear to you his personal convictions on the matter, you even acknowledged it on camera. So why do you persist in meaningless questions when there are pressing issues that a governor can actually address??

I would no more want my governor wasting public time jawboning on abortion as I would want the state legislature wasting time with meaningless resoultions on presidential impeachment. WAIT! The Democrats already did that!

Here is an idea. How about we stick to those issue that the governor DOES have control over? Maybe, just maybe, the State of Washington might get something done other that wasting $2.7 BILLION of the tax payers money.

Posted by JimD

3:30 PM, Jul 19, 2008

UpFrontViewer,
You may not be aware that once the U.S. Supreme Court is sufficiently filled with enough justices to likely overturn Roe-vs-Wade, that's exactly what will happen when it's petitioned with a new precedent-setting case.
EVERY anti-choice politician who gets closer to a future U.S. Senate or House position, may have a hand in approving those appointed to the court.
Governors are an active pool of future Senators, Congressmen, department heads....and even presidential candidates.
Heard of Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush?
Did you know they are ex-governors?
Do you not also think the people of Washington have a right to know to what extent the applicant to our job of governor intends to realize his convictions as Governor?
The state indirectly facilitates abortion access and service.
Will Rossi try to change that?
Rossi not only refused to say - he spent several minutes explaining why he doesn't have enough time during the next 100 day to give concise, straight answers to citizen's questions...

Posted by UpFrontViewer

3:59 PM, Jul 19, 2008

Jimd,

Exactly how many US Supreme Court justices are appointed by currently sitting STATE governors as part of their STATE duties?

Did Carter, Reagan or Bush appoint ANY supreme court justices as governor?

Are we now to vet every potential job candidate based upon what they might do in the future when they are no longer in that job based upon what other past people who left that job did? That's insane.

When Rossi runs for president, then you may have a point. I don't want the dog catcher spending his days with grand proposals on mid east peace while feral dogs roam the streets, I don't want the city mayor contemplating presidential impeachment resolutions when the streets are crumbling and I sure as heck don't want lectures on abortion from the governor when the Alaskan Way Viaduct is about to collapse and has been that way for 7 years.

If I am flattened by the collapsing viaduct, as happened in San Francisco, my last thought assuredly will NOT be "but thank god the governor is for abortion".

Posted by UpFrontView

4:04 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"Rossi not only refused to say - he spent several minutes explaining why he doesn't have enough time during the next 100 day to give concise, straight answers to citizen's questions..."

In fact, Rossi did say and even Postman acknowledged he did say. He stated his core belief is that every soul has a value. He also stated that he will not talk about issues in which the position for which he is running has no impact.

Asking the governor to talk about abortion while the state is projecting a $2.7 BILLION defiict, the viaduct is near collapse, our transportation infrastructure is in ruins and the state agencies are running amok is simply ignorant, willful or not - you decide.

Posted by jan

5:09 PM, Jul 19, 2008

Near collapse? Run amok? In ruins?

Not the last time I checked.

Gregoire did a heavy lift on the Viaduct and got the fix funded. That work is underway. Even with the mediation underway downtown, the project is on schedule. Rossi hasn't offered anything on the topic except an opinion (a tunnel) and everybody knows there are a lot of opinions on this topic.

I know we here about stupid things, but this state is generally regarded as having one of the best run state governments in the country.

Last time I checked the state's infrastructure was not in ruins and was safely carrying millions of us every day. This state's highways move people more safely than almost any other state.

It is perfectly reasonable for any candidate for Governor to expect questions about positions on abortion and answer them. It is not reasonable to expect a contorted civics lesson to cover a dodge.

Posted by BillJ

6:25 PM, Jul 19, 2008

“Last time I checked the state's infrastructure was not in ruins and was safely carrying millions of us every day. This state's highways move people more safely than almost any other state.”

The last time you checked was 30 years ago you and her are living in denial.

Obviously, you must walk to work or live within 10 miles of work.

We have the same roads 2 lanes as we did 30 years ago; the population was less than 2 million in the whole state.

Posted by JimD

7:19 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"...Are we now to vet every potential job candidate based upon what they might do in the future when they are no longer in that job based upon what other past people who left that job did?..."

Yes.
I prefer that no anti-choice politicians hold any offices at any level.
However, as I explained earlier - it's not a deal breaker and I'm certainly not a single issue voter on this or most other policy positions - the same pragmatism by most mainstream, centrist voters.
There are obviously many instances where a candidate's anti-choice position is outweighed by other factors - especially at the local level.

But the press has every right to ask Rossi about his beliefs as many times and in as many ways as they want.
This includes asking Rossi to elaborate on whether he intends to fully facilitate the reproductive rights of Washington women, despite his personal convictions against abortion.
He has NOT answered that question.
He refuses to discuss it, period, end of story.
At the same time, he touts himself as a pro-life Catholic to social conservatives who WANT a governor to use his office to not only speak out against abortion, but actively work to distance state government from any connection to endorsing reproductive choice in its many social services.
In the absence of any effort by Rossi to explain exactly how he would reflect his convictions in his official duties, his intentions remain an open question.

I frankly think the reason so many of you call this a red herring is because you either don't care if he intends to be an anti-abortion activist - or hope he does.
Since when did the right decide it's irrelevant unless you're running for President?

The program is a televised job interview.
I'll save my final judgment till Sunday's broadcast of the full thing.
But from the last few minutes (linked above), it appears Rossi flunked his employment interview by refusing to answer questions that many of his potential employers want answers to.

Posted by TheFacts

9:37 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"That work is underway."

It has been SEVEN YEARS and the only thing that has been done is to patch the thing to prop it up. No work to replace it has been done other than waste a lot of money with nothing to show for it.

Gregoire showed such a lack of leadership she even threw the question back to the voters. Seattle's lacksidasical decision making style is no excuse for Gregoire's incompetence on the matter. It is a STATE highway not a city highway.

Work isn't even scheduled to begin on replacement until 2012. That will be 11 years since the quake damaged the thing and 24 years after the safety issue of i viaduct collapse, as demonstrated by the San Francisco Cypress Way viaduct, proved those type of antiquated structures were vulnerable to pancaking on people.

Now it didn't take 11 years for work to begin on the Cypress viaduct because obviously they had leadership on the issue. The people of the state should be outraged that this unsafe structure hasn't even been torn down yet.

"Run amok?"

YES, the Gregoire Department of Corrections IS runnning amok. According to a KOMO NEWS special investigation several DOC insiders had this to say regarding the deaths of three police officers at the hands of inmates the Gregoire DOC let out on the streets prematurely:

"They're hiding everything. Everything's under a cloud," the source said.

"I am angry, because they didn't have to die," our source said. "We are the Department of Corrections. That's what we do. We protect the public, and we are not doing it."

Posted by UpFrontViewer

9:50 PM, Jul 19, 2008

"Yes.
I prefer that no anti-choice politicians hold any offices at any level.
However, as I explained earlier - it's not a deal breaker and I'm certainly not a single issue voter on this or most other policy positions - the same pragmatism by most mainstream, centrist voters.
There are obviously many instances where a candidate's anti-choice position is outweighed by other factors - especially at the local level."

Wow. That explains a LOT about you JimD. That explains why you will tolerate a do-nothing governor. You prioritize abortion actual issues a governor can have an impact on. So for you it is all about the ideology. That is fine for extremists like yourself but the rest of the voters care more about actually getting things done rather than idealogical screening for things outside the job duties of the position for which the candidate is applying.

And you open a whole can of worms when you do so. What is Rossi's opinion on the space program? After all, he might be president one day and some may want to know about anti-space program politicians at ALL levels of government. What about his position on broccoli? After all, I wouldn't want to further in any way the political ambitions of a broccoli bigot.

If you don't see how ridiculous this is, especially while our infrastructure crumbles and we are projecting $2.7 BILLION deficits where once we had surplus, then you are simply a left wing idealogue for which there is zero hope of reasonable conversation. And you know darn well you would be saying the exact same thing if the situation were reversed and the reporter were hounding Gregoire because she was for abortion. And you'd be right.

Posted by JimD

11:11 PM, Jul 19, 2008

What in the world are you babbling about?
Broccoli....the space program...?

Rossi has no viable plan to reduce the deficit.
Rossi refuses to discuss the specifics of how he'd supposedly cut spending.
Rossi's transportation plan is under-funded by billions and involves abandoning investments already spent for projects currently in progress.
He refuses to explain why he thinks this makes sense.
He refuses to explain much of anything...
He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

There are plenty reasons not to vote for Rossi.
It's YOU guys who wanted an answer to why one's abortion policy is relative to being a governor.
But Rossi's anti-choice position is hardly the main reason why he's absolutely the wrong candidate for governor.
The best reason to vote for Rossi is that he's isn't Gregoire?
That's it?
That's Rossi's best asset?
That's just embarrassing, dude.

This "anyone but Gregoire" thing is grossly irresponsible.
She's been a very effective governor overall, and most citizens are relatively happy with her overall performance given the problems dumped in her lap.
The reason you have to over-state how dire our financial situation is because it's all you've got to justify supporting this idiot the republicans put up to go against Gregoire in a year when they knew they couldn't win anyway.
Gregoire isn't just the best candidate for governor because of her overall performance to date, but because Rossi's empty campaign and pretend proposals are simply unacceptable.

Posted by UpFrontViwer

12:24 AM, Jul 20, 2008

Broccoli and the space program are as relevant to the job of governor as is abortion.

"Rossi has no viable plan to reduce the deficit."

Yes he does. How about NOT giving $1 million to the Clearwater Casino for tribal monuments? They are already raking it in tax free thank to Gregoire.

How about cutting the money wasted on pet massage?

Dino HAS balanced a budget. He has a HISTORY of balancing budgets. Gregoire has a history of busting them.

"Rossi refuses to discuss the specifics of how he'd supposedly cut spending."

No he hasn't. He has already said the approach he would take. Unlike the non-credible Gregoire who promised not to raise taxes in 2004 and then weeks later raised them, Rossi has actually balanced a budget.

"Rossi's transportation plan is under-funded by billions and involves abandoning investments already spent for projects currently in progress."

No it doesn't. Rossi's plan recognizes inefficiencies and specifically addresses them. They are common sense really. Not taxing materials the state uses for constructing bridges and other infrastructure is just one common sense way of reducing the cost of those projects. Contrast this with Gregoire, whose DOT wasted over millions on the failed Port Angeles graving project and her failure to address the Alaskan Way Viaduct.

He has explained it over and over but you refuse to listen because he isn't a Democrat. The pragmatic people of Washington want problem solvers, not idealogue apparatchiks that waste their hard earned money.

"It's YOU guys who wanted an answer to why one's abortion policy is relative to being a governor."

And WE GUYS are STILL waiting for an answer that isn't nonsensical.

"The best reason to vote for Rossi is that he's isn't Gregoire? That's it?"

That is what YOU GUYS always tell us about barack Obama - he isn't Bush. Thanks for pointing out the nonsense of that position.

But I never said the only reason to vote for Rossi is that he isn't Gregoire. The main reason to vote for Rossi is fiscal responsibility.

Everyday working stiffs have to live under a budget. They have to prioritize their spending. Dino understands this and has demonstrated results, Gregoire does not and has demonstrated failure.

Earlier you likened Gregoire to a disease, and you were right. Like a fundamentalist Christian Scientist, you don't even want to try the medicine even though for four years the state has been fiscally ill under Gregoire. You said so yourself when you likened her to a disease.

Failed transportation projects, out of control state agencies, crumbling infrastructure that threatens the lives of Washingtonians. If that is what you call success, then by all means vote for Gregoire.

We know the result of Gregoire's four years is turning a billion dollar SURPLUS into a $2.7 billion dollar DEFICIT. But this shouldn't be a surprise to any voter really. Gregoire had a previous history of mismanagement as AG where she lost the state $10 million in a lawsuit for not filing paperwork in time. On the viaduct, she refused to show any leadership and threw it back to the voters.

She has done a MISERABLE job as governor. And yes, just about ANYONE would be a better bet than Gregoire. But we are lucky that we have not just anyone, but SOMEONE who has DEMONSTRATED he CAN balance a budget.

In the end, that is what mainstream voters want, not some incompetent anointed idealogue like Gregoire.


Posted by Had enough

12:51 AM, Jul 20, 2008

Although it’s true that the governor of a state has little influence over who is appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court, that he or she cannot dramatically impact the reproductive rights of woman in a state is simply not the case.

Roe v. Wade simply sets the boundary within which state laws on abortion must stay. Within that boundary, the states have a lot of leeway. That’s why, even with Roe v. Wade, the reproductive rights of women vary substantially from state to state. Washington’s current laws are among the more protective of those rights, and it certainly seems fair for Mr. Rossi to indicate – before asking the people of this state to vote for him – whether he supports changing those laws.

Some examples of why it matters to the reproductive rights of women in Washington who is elected Governor:

• State law can push right up to the bounds of Roe v. Wade, without going over. Does Mr. Rossi support changing Washington law to do so?

• A state law going beyond the bounds of Roe v. Wade can be passed strategically, with the hope that it will be used to overturn, or substantially erode, the holding in that case. Of course, unless and until a court rules it unconstitutional, the women of Washington would be bound by such a law. Would Mr. Rossi support such a law, and the taxpayer dollars necessary to defend it?

• Roe v. Wade does not require states to pay for abortions. However, consistent with Initiative 120 (passed by Washington voters in 1991), they are covered in our state health care programs for low income women. Would Mr. Rossi eliminate such funding, or otherwise support repealing Initiative 120, which is intended to protect the reproductive rights of Washington women regardless of what happens to Roe v. Wade?

• Reproductive rights are not simply about abortion. Affordable access to effective birth control and scientifically sound sex education are also important. President Bush has consistently supported policies and programs to limit access to these. Would Mr. Rossi support changing policies and programs in Washington to more closely align with the position of the President?

Of course, the views of a state’s Governor on transportation are important. As are his or her views on the environment, and education, and myriad of other things. But his or her views on a woman’s reproductive rights are important as well, and it’s ridiculous for Mr. Rossi to suggest otherwise. Why can’t he simply state his views, and let the voters decide if it matters? What is he afraid of?

I want to know what he thinks, and short of being able to ask him myself, will rely on the likes of Mr. Postman and others in a position to do so to continue to ask until he gives a straight answer.

Posted by YourRedHerring

1:14 AM, Jul 20, 2008

Rossi has stated his views. Over and over. Roe v Wade is a Supreme court issue, not a state issue.

A governor cannot simply enact a law by himself, it requires the house and senate to go along as well. So basically, Democrats have skepticism that the Democrat majority in both the state house and senate will pass anti abortion legislation and Rossi will go along with it.

That is pure fantasy. Talk about your red herring.

Posted by Had enough

1:24 AM, Jul 20, 2008

So Mr. Rossi would do nothing as Governor to interfere with a woman's reproductive rights, including those things I've mentioned above? Then why doesn't he just come out and say that?

Posted by YourRedHerring

1:38 AM, Jul 20, 2008

"So Mr. Rossi would do nothing as Governor to interfere with a woman's reproductive rights, including those things I've mentioned above? Then why doesn't he just come out and say that?"


Has anyone asked this of the Democrat majority? It is a moot point if they don't go along. And as has been pointed out, it is covered under the state health plan.

Really, these distractions are designed to bring our focus away from the bread and butter issues of transportation and fiscal responsibility in order to spare the incumbent from having to answer uneasy questions about why the state has been so mismanaged under her tenure.

Good lord, Rome is burning and the jesters are fiddling. How about we put out the fire first?


Posted by Had enough

1:59 AM, Jul 20, 2008

So Mr. Rossi sees the issue of a woman's right to choose as simply "a distraction"? Wow, that should go over well . . ..

And if he can't get the things he wants done (including the "fiscal responsibility" you seem to think is so lacking) with an otherwise uncooperative legislature, why elect him at all?

Posted by private24

6:21 AM, Jul 20, 2008

Rossi is a delusional fool and so are his supporters here. He'll jolly well answer the questions the taxpayers in this state want him to answer.

The Governor works for us and Rossi in effect is applying for a job. If he doesn't think he has to be accountable to us during a campaign, then why the hell would I want to hire him to be my state's Governor? And why the hell would I trust the judgment of anyone who did?

Posted by Jimd

7:35 AM, Jul 20, 2008

"The Governor works for us and Rossi in effect is applying for a job. If he doesn't think he has to be accountable to us during a campaign, then why the hell would I want to hire him to be my state's Governor? And why the hell would I trust the judgment of anyone who did?"

Exactly.

Like Rossi's campaign, his supporter's disingenuous portrayal of Gregoire's performance and Rossi's agenda and qualifications borders on the kind of desperation that relies on defying common sense and the intelligence of others.

Posted by TiredOfIncompetence

8:30 AM, Jul 20, 2008

"The Governor works for us and Rossi in effect is applying for a job. If he doesn't think he has to be accountable to us during a campaign, then why the hell would I want to hire him to be my state's Governor? And why the hell would I trust the judgment of anyone who did?"

The governor is supposed to work for us- not tribal gambling interests. She has NOT been accountable and has shown she cannot be trusted to manage our state.

Why the hell would ANYONE vote to put her back in? They didn't even elect here the first time, her cronies in King County Elections took care of that.


If the people get their say, Gregoire will be unemployed.

Posted by BILLJ

9:16 AM, Jul 20, 2008

“This "anyone but Gregoire" thing is grossly irresponsible.
She's been a very effective governor overall, and most citizens are relatively happy with her overall performance given the problems dumped in her lap.
The reason you have to over-state how dire our financial situation is because it's all you've got to justify supporting this idiot the republicans put up to go against Gregoire in a year when they knew they couldn't win anyway.”

In lighten us Jimd , a surplus is not a problem she had dumped into her lap. What the hell are you ranting about? She made her own problems by expanding employment by 30% giving the tribes money for votes, giving state agencies a blank check. Having no leadership on the flooding and our people are still hurting where the heck is she.

Where in to name calling now ask the queen a pointed question like why have you let down the people in the flooding areas? What you will get is a deer in headlights look.

Posted by Roberta

10:36 AM, Jul 20, 2008

Voters elected Dino twice none of the rubbish she has brought to Postman’s attention means anything. What we need to focus on is her incompetence, which is widely know but thanks to the media is covered up.

When the media goes to extend lengths to cover-up her misgivings I can tell you if she is elected you will see the media slam her for weeks on end to show there no bias.

Then wait and see all the crap unload on how she plans to increase the gas tax by .20 a gallon and a 40% increase in property tax to pay for her misgivings, I’m being kind on the figures and not including the layoffs in safety to the citizens of Washington.

Posted by fedup

11:15 AM, Jul 20, 2008

I was disappointed in her lack of understanding what was going on with the Sonics and what had to be done to keep them. Apparently the Sonics didn’t give her enough money.

Posted by Vote for D

11:44 AM, Jul 20, 2008

She releases level three child rape offenders and tell us she is protecting us.
As AG she did nothing except cost us money, when your in the pocket of special interest nothing gets done that helps us taxpayers.


Posted by CG has to go

12:45 PM, Jul 20, 2008


Like Rossi's campaign, his supporter's disingenuous portrayal of Gregoire's performance

When is she planing on telling us.
like a balance budget maybe?

Posted by Roberta

1:16 PM, Jul 20, 2008

Christine’s performance:

8 billion increase in spending

6 thousand new state works and still climbing

2.9 Billion in deficits and still climbing

She said if we go into recession do not blame me but George Bush!

Can we afford another term?



Posted by Had enough

4:36 PM, Jul 20, 2008

I agree that how a Governor would address any projected deficit in the state budget is important, and will be wary of any candidate who refuses to talk about it -- especially if the reason given is "This is my campaign. I'll talk about the issues I want to."

Similarly, what a Governor would do with state laws and programs protecting a woman's reproductive rights is also important. I will be wary of any candidate who refuses to talk about it -- especially if the reason given is "This is my campaign. I'll talk about the issues I want to."

Posted by JimD

5:28 PM, Jul 20, 2008

I wouldn't know where to begin dissecting the complete misrepresentation of the totality of Gregoire's performance.
And what would be the point trying.
The fanatical Rossi crowd has their minds made up - anybody but Gregoire, using any inflated excuse to get there - from the projected deficit to the absurdly inaccurate characterization of her handling of the flood relief.
Rossi supporters just want a chain saw taken to state government.
It doesn't matter what gets cut or who's affected - a sentiment they've repeatedly expressed on this blog until the projected state deficit became the attack issue de jur.
And who do they offer-up as a prospective employee?
A guy without a specific or viable proposal on any issue, who refuses to explain how his supposed "transportation plan" contradicts DOT's own numbers, refuses to answer questions important to his prospective employers, has the builders association financing his campaign, carries a chip on his shoulder over losing the last election....and now, the preposterous claim that his anti-choice stand is irrelevant to the people of Washington...?
Try telling Washington's pro-life movement that a politicians position on life doesn't matter unless they're the president of the United States.


I'm no big fan of Gregoire, but I'm not so fanatical about rushing to solve the current projected state deficit that I'd consider choosing an obvious wolf in sheep's clothing who's campaign centers around, "trust me"..
When pigs fly.

Posted by Roberta

5:59 PM, Jul 20, 2008

What your saying is I do not care she knows nothing about running the State of Washington or her backroom payoffs are just fine as long as she’s pro choice do whatever to us we still vote for you.
This attitude is the rant of a liberal who votes by party only.

What I found very interesting was term “GOP” Dino had this last time he ran so where is the beef Postman?
P.S.
A democrat watched postman tonight thought he was a hit man for Christina.

Posted by The Truth

7:26 PM, Jul 20, 2008

Dino won the upfront show against postman.

The eastern wash. Seattle stole the election Dino slammed postman.

The Sonic question and Dino great answer show Postman he was not talking to Gregoire.

After Dino left postman still fuming said I wished I had the other stadium proposals next to the Sonics, yeah postman come prepared next time rookie.

Posted by Neal Culver

8:32 PM, Jul 20, 2008

Rossi can talk about what he wants to talk about,
and I as a voter will assume that the reason he doesn't want to talk about certain things is because he doesn't think we will agree with him.
Needless, to say I will not vote for a pig in a poke.

Posted by acrawfird

9:33 PM, Jul 20, 2008

What does Mr Rossi think about wind power? If he is for it, where would he like to see the turbines placed. If he is agin' it. why?

Posted by John

8:59 AM, Jul 21, 2008

Dino, handle the interview very well, it was obvious this was the first time Postman actually interviewed Dino,

His answers where precise and showed her extensive short falls.

Posted by Fred H.

10:10 AM, Jul 21, 2008

The fanatical Rossi crowd has their minds made up - anybody but Gregoire, using any inflated excuse to get there - from the projected deficit to the absurdly inaccurate characterization of her handling of the flood relief.

Ok Jimd,
All she did was proclaiming the flood a disaster allowing federal funds in. What has she done since?

Why are the victims still homeless, why is the State charging more for the permits than the worth of the repairs?

Why has the media stopped coverage of the hardship our people are enduring?

Why hasn’t the Gov. returned since she proclaimed it a disaster?

Why didn’t the news media investigate what happen to the 90 million to repair the dikes after the 1996 flood?

Posted by Bothsides

11:41 AM, Jul 21, 2008

Why should anyone be surprised if Mr. Postman is critical of Dino while and letting the incumbent slide, the papaer he works for just received a tax cut form the incumbent, now why would you bite the hand that feeds you.

JimD, as usual, you're frothing at the mouth with absolutely no substance to back it up. Fortunately the people of this state are not as dumb as you think and no matter how much rhetoric you spew, the facts will still survive. You say the right wing crowd here is wanting anything but CG, not true. If CG is so comfortable in her re-election chances, why are her first ads attack ads, especially going back years, if she's done such a great job, why isn't she leading by double digit numbers in the polls?? She sucked as an AG and she sucks as a GOV. Dino Rossi has so much more to offer than she does, the last election proved that.

Posted by Postman

11:58 AM, Jul 21, 2008

Boy, you guys are tough. I'll skip addressing those among you who think I'm a moron. However, can we clear one thing up? I never attended journalism school. So in your nee-jerk attacks on me please find something else to say.

As for all the talk about abortion, I didn't push Rossi on the issue on UpFront. I was pushing him on why he doens't think that and other issues are important to the governor's race.

It's not the first time I interviewed Rossi. It won't be the last, either. It was one exchange among many.

Posted by Bothsides

12:04 PM, Jul 21, 2008

I'm sure JimD will be disappointed that the "abortion issue" was not at the forefront of your interview. I have to go now, I must find out how my boss feels about a womans right to choose, he might be president some day........

Posted by JimD

12:07 PM, Jul 21, 2008

"...Why hasn't the Gov. returned since she proclaimed it a disaster?..."
That's simply untrue.
She virtually lived there after declaring it a disaster area.
The fact that she did this without turning it into a continuous press event is commendable - although she's now paying the price with those who assume she's only working when they see her in the media.
It's just another distortion of her record from folks who will stop at nothing to tear-apart state government, get rid of as many state projects and workers "living off the tax dollars" as possible regardless of the consequences, the value of their work or the services affected, and have no concern for the specific details on how we'll get there as evidenced by a candidate who brings none to the table.

Just my opinion of course - and that of half the voters Rossi clearly resents for "stealing" what he considers his political entitlement.
I wish everyone who votes could read this bog and see for themselves the agenda for Washington his most fanatical supporters have in mind, just to leave a few more bucks in their pockets.

Posted by FredH

12:42 PM, Jul 21, 2008

"...Why hasn't the Gov. returned since she proclaimed it a disaster?..."
That's simply untrue.
She virtually lived there after declaring it a disaster area.
The fact that she did this without turning it into a continuous press event is commendable - although she's now paying the price with those who assume she's only working when they see her in the media.


It is true ! She has abandoned the citizens of Lewis county.
You should address the rest of the posts instead of saying not true.

Posted by Mike in Seattle

12:50 PM, Jul 21, 2008

What I would like to learn more about is Governor Chrissy and her Indian bribes. The state is running a deficit, because of her secret deal with the tribes we abandon revenue sharing on gambling and she get a $600,000 campaign donation. Why isn't the media covering this? She has created a deficit with her increased spending of $8,000,000,000 more than her predecessor. Finally the press makes that public. Washington voters are drinking too much Democratic Kool Aid and are not digging for facts, demanding accountability and insisting on fiscal responsibility. But then again this is Washington State!

Posted by JimD

1:16 PM, Jul 21, 2008

FredH,
If you have a specific case to make, make it.
HOW has she "abandoned" Lewis county?
WHAT specifically should she have done that she hasn't?
How MUCH state money do you think she should have spent to bail you out, that she hasn't?
What state money is she not responsible for spending prior to the weather disaster, that would have helped?
Please -- substantiate your allegations with some specifics so we know what you're referring to.

Posted by JimD

1:24 PM, Jul 21, 2008

"...she get a $600,000 campaign donation. Why isn't the media covering this? She has created a deficit with her increased spending of $8,000,000,000 more than her predecessor. Finally the press makes that public...."
This has been repeatedly covered in the press.
The Seattle times has yet another article in today's edition on the increased spending ($4,000,000,000 of which went to education, btw)

Yes, this is Washington State.
Our social and civic culture is to avoid lynch mob mentality and deliberate the facts - which have been documented in many, many news stories for those who read the news.

Posted by FredH

1:36 PM, Jul 21, 2008

You cannot address the rest of the posts instead of saying not true.
I laid it out and all is true, if not for our faith base volunteers more grief would have been on her hands. She called it a tragedy call on the Fed’s and walked away that’s a fact.

Posted by JimDsConscience

2:05 PM, Jul 21, 2008

Jim D--
15 posts on one thread!
You are working overtime to dominate Postman's Blog.
You certainly are the dominating poster....and this and almost every other thread.

You try to keep cool and fact-based..but then your true colors spew out.

My guess is you are a Gregoire staffer or Union staffer....you are spending waaaaaaay too much time on this Blog to just be Joe Citizen.

Posted by JimD

2:26 PM, Jul 21, 2008

JimDsConscience,
Well, thanks for your interest - and the compliment...I think..?
I guess I do have banks of extra time, during which I like, among other things, the intellectual aerobics of writing and debate between long days and nights moving freight in my 18-wheeler.
Perhaps your complaint is better posed to those who don't post very often.

Posted by JimD

2:31 PM, Jul 21, 2008

FredH wrote:
"... laid it out and all is true, if not for our faith base volunteers more grief would have been on her hands. She called it a tragedy call on the Fed’s and walked away that’s a fact..."

Well, I happen to know one of the faith-based volunteers who donated hundreds of hours helping rebuild down there - and he says he saw and met with the governor on a regular basis for weeks after.

Again - what would you have PREFERRED her to do?
Be speficific so we know what you're talking about.

Throw more state money at it?
Personally take control of a bulldozer herself?
What exactly is your beef?

Posted by The Truth

2:59 PM, Jul 21, 2008

“ he says he saw and met with the governor on a regular basis for weeks after.”

That is a lie.

Again - what would you have PREFERRED her to do?
Be speficific so we know what you're talking about.
Have you ever heard of state employees being sent down here to actually work not just looking?
“Throw more state money at it?”

Yeah, think of it money for public schools.

What’s your spin on the 90 million that never got here after 1996 flood that would have prevented this tragedy?

Posted by FredH

3:14 PM, Jul 21, 2008

http://www.governor.wa.gov/news/news-view.asp?pressRelease=931&newsType=1


“First and foremost, we realize that a lot of people are still recovering,” Gregoire said. “Even though we are making progress on recovery and taking steps to prevent future harm, we are still concerned for those who are suffering and will continue to work to help them.”


It has been 8 months where still waiting.

Her slogan is wait until I’m re-appointed then I’ll help!

Posted by The Truth

4:46 PM, Jul 21, 2008


JIMD LIES:
"Well, I happen to know one of the faith-based volunteers who donated hundreds of hours helping rebuild down there - and he says he saw and met with the governor on a regular basis for weeks after."

Dated may 2008
Gregoire recalled last winter’s disaster area, to which she made several visits and held press conferences.

“I viewed it by helicopter, looking down on it,” Gregoire said. “Trust me, it was devastating.”

Posted by FredH

4:50 PM, Jul 21, 2008

Gov. Chris Gregoire joined the fanfare If we had a camera down here she came by like 3 times at the most.

NEVER WEEKS ON END!

Posted by The Truth

5:30 PM, Jul 21, 2008

Posted by JimD

7:33 PM, Jul 21, 2008

"...“I viewed it by helicopter, looking down on it,” Gregoire said. “Trust me, it was devastating.”..."

Well, I sure it looked particularly bad by air.
That doesn't even IMPLY she wasn't on the ground.

Fred - you still haven't said what Gregoire DIDN'T do.
How did she "abandon" you?
Seems to me like the governor, the full force of our state government, certainly the tax payers, the feds, and hundreds of volunteers dropped everything to come down and help.
I remember conservative Rossi supporters on this blog bitterly complaining that she was getting in the way, should stay in Olympia, and would probably spend too much of THEIR tax dollars helping you out.
How much more of our tax dollars and state resources do you want?

What COULD the governor do, that she DIDN'T do?
Can you answer that?
Or is your charge that we abandoned you without merit after all?
Which is it, Fred?

Posted by FredH

8:39 PM, Jul 21, 2008

Jimd,
You did not read her words:

Dated may 2008
Gregoire recalled last winter’s disaster area, to which she made several visits and held press conferences.

When the cameras rolled she came down.

Waiting for your answers, be truthful for once.

Why are the victims still homeless, why is the State charging more for the permits than the worth of the repairs?

Why has the media stopped coverage of the hardship our people are enduring?

Why hasn’t the Gov. returned since she proclaimed it a disaster?

Why didn’t the news media investigate what happen to the 90 million to repair the dikes after the 1996 flood?

Posted by JimD

10:12 AM, Jul 22, 2008

"Dated may 2008
Gregoire recalled last winter’s disaster area, to which she made several visits and held press conferences."

Look Fred - I'm not un-sympathetic to your plight.
It was a horrible act of God compounded by questionable land-use in the first place.
I even contributed $500 to the Red Cross with a $500 match from my employer.
I don't know if that helped you personally, but everyone seems to have done everything they could.

You say the governor never came down after declaring it a disaster, but the news story you quote says she made multiple visits.
You say it isn't getting enough press coverage, but the news story you quoted says she drew press attention with news conferences.
I'm not saying things couldn't have been handled better.
There's always room for improvement, especially when the government's involved.
But complaining that the Governor and the State Of Washington "abandoned" you is simply not true.
And collectively, all levels of government, corporate, non-profits and private citizens, the assistance was commendable by any standard.
By all accounts - including the story referenced above - the county was pleased with the response and assistance they were given.
The government can only do so much to reduce the risk from natural disaster you choose by living there,

Posted by FredH

10:21 AM, Jul 22, 2008

Jimd:
Are you related to Senator John Kerry?

Posted by Bothsides

11:43 AM, Jul 22, 2008

JimD, what a joke, this is the opposite crap you leftists were spewing about Katrina. Personally, I think the disaster was caused by CG, just like the "natural disaster" that was caused by GWB.

Posted by Karl N.

12:43 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Jimd:

I take my hat off to you for all the posts on this blog; no one can match your B.S.


Posted by JimD

2:19 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Karl N.,
Well thank you..I think...?
But so far no one has posted exactly what Gregoire did to "abandon" the flood damaged area, or what she should have done instead.
I think that's pretty good evidence that some anti-Gregoire folks here have nothing substantial to complain about, and would rather appear ungrateful for all the assistance they received from the state, than admit it.

Posted by John

3:09 PM, Jul 22, 2008

"I take my hat off to you for all the posts on this blog; no one can match your B.S"

Well thank you..I think...?

JIMD,

They allow you on our roads driving a 18 wheel???????

Posted by JimD

7:35 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Sometimes a 22 or 26 wheeler.

Posted by John

4:52 PM, Jul 24, 2008

JimD

7:35 PM, Jul 22, 2008

Sometimes a 22 or 26 wheeler.
Still remote controlled?

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