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May 13, 2008 10:59 AM

McCain promotes nuclear power in North Bend visit

Posted by David Postman

NORTH BEND - I’m at the Cedar River Watershed Educational Center in the Cascade foothills to hear John McCain and panelists talk about the environment.

The panelists will be Lands Commissioner Doug Sutherland; Bruce Williams, chairman and CEO of HomeStreet Bank and vice chairman of Cascade Land Conservancy,; Jim DiPeso, policy director of Republicans for Environmental Protection; REI CEO Sally Jewell; West Mathison, a fifth-generation farmer with Stemilt Growers, Inc.; Chris Bayley, the former Republican King County prosecutor and chairman of Stewardship Partners; Eagle Scout and high school senior Will Mentor; and Mercer Island City Councilman Steve Litzow Litzglow. Former Gov. Dan Evans will moderate.

This is a City of Seattle facility. It’s a nice, rustic, set of buildings above the river.

McCain is also scheduled to hold a media availability after the panel discussion.

There are a host of local Republicans in the small auditorium, including former Sen. Slade Gorton, GOP state Chairman Luke Esser, vice chairwoman Freddi Simpson, Sen. Cheryl Pfulg, and former state Rep. Toby Nixon.

MORE: With a light, cool, rain falling, Evans joked that “we’re looking forward to global warming.”

MORE: Jewell said that members of REI include people from the far left and the far right, but said “the one thing that they all appreciate, I think, is a healthy environment.”

She thanked McCain for his comments yesterday on climate change, and pointed out Gorton to say that he helped secure the public lands around this area. Jewell also mentioned former Democratic Gov. Gary Locke and said bipartisan work is necessary to continue to protect the environment.

(By the way, Evans’ REI number is 1819.)

“I’m not new to this issue. But I’m always learning about this issue,” McCain said. He said that when he first ran for president in 2000, young people would ask him about climate change, but he was then far from an expert.

“I will freely admit … I began to learn and I went back to the Senate and as chairman of the commerce committee had many hearings on this issue, and I traveled. I traveled around the globe, usually at your expense.”

In brief opening remarks, McCain said that fighting climate change and pushing for improvements to the environment are good for the economy.

“Everyone is talking about how harmful it is,” he said. “Look at what’s out there.”

He said that the wind turbine company he visited in Portland yesterday is employing thousands of people and “are contributing to probably as clean a technology as you’ll ever find. … I just firmly and steadfastly reject the notion that somehow this is something that will be harmful to our economy.”

MORE: Jewell said that REI has a goal to be “climate neutral.” She said that is very difficult, but very important to REI members. It involves a difficult balance.

All businesses, by nature, are taking from the planet right now. So how do we reconcile sending out catalogs while we’re hiking in the trees?

She said that businesses and private enterprise “have to play a very, very significant role” in combating global warming.

McCain asked her, “What do you want me to do?”

She said REI is converting 10 stores to solar this year, “in sunnier markets than the one you’re presently sitting in.” She said that some states, but not the federal government, have tax incentives that now make converting to solar financially viable.

Jewell said:

There isn’t anything significant that helps us make the right decisions.

McCain responded:

I’m a little wary of - I have to give you straight talk - about government subsidies. We just saw the impact, I think, of the subsidies for ethanol. I opposed the subsidies for ethanol because I thought it would distort the market. … When government jumps in and distorts the market then there are unintended consequences as well as intended consequences.

He said that happened after the gas crisis in the 1970s. He said there were “too many incentives given to the solar industry” and “we turned out to have some pretty shoddy material.”

MORE: Williams questioned McCain’s call for more nuclear energy. He said that Washington state is still dealing with nuclear waste issues at Hanford. He said:

We’d like to see that taken care of before we make more of it.

McCain said he understands the controversy over nuclear waste at Hanford and knows there is much more to be done there.

All I’m saying is, if other countries are able to make use of nuclear power and address the issue of spent nuclear fuel, then I don’t know why the United States of America can’t.

Again, we’ve sailed ships around the world for 60 years, some of them have come into this state, and we’ve never had a problem. We’ve never had a nuclear accident. …

We ought to be able, as a nation, to address the issue of transportation of the spent nuclear fuel, the storage of it, whether it’ll be reprocessed.

McCain said that if new nuclear power plants are built then no new coal-fired plants will have to take their place. “I’m all for clean coal,” he said, but added that the technology is still too expensive to be viable.

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Posted by Methow Ken

11:09 AM, May 13, 2008

David,

In reporting on this panel discussion hope you will cover not just what Senator McCain sez, but also some details on what other panel members have to say.

Posted by D T Nelson

11:52 AM, May 13, 2008

It's Steve Litzow, not Litzglow. He is running for State Representative from the 41st.

Posted by budbrad

12:19 PM, May 13, 2008

I can't believe REI is represented in this forum.

Shameful.

Posted by P

12:44 PM, May 13, 2008

I am a global warming skeptic. Nobody has proven that humans are the cause of global warming. When scientists say there is a consensus, watch out for your wallets! Algore refuses to debate, but that doesn't stop him from making millions off his "carbon set asides" scam.

Sen. McCain, in my opinion, is simply jumping on board the global warming band wagon. He is pandering, pure and simple. Yet, just recently the UN announced that tempetures have leveled off and haven't increased since 1998!! What global warming?

Truly, the inmates have taken over the asylum.

Posted by Particle Man

1:15 PM, May 13, 2008

I am OK with REI being there. They are a much needed voice of reason with most of those David listed.
My question is WHERE IS DINO????? Gosh and right there in his former district. He must still be stinging from the loss of Mitt Romney and not think much of the more moderate McCain.

Posted by Methow Ken

1:56 PM, May 13, 2008

I'm very glad to see that Senator McCain included these words in his response:

''We ought to be able, as a nation, to address the issue of transportation of the spent nuclear fuel, the storage of it, whether it’ll be reprocessed.''

Right on; and note that the last 4 words are the key snippet; i.e.: REPROCESSING.

I went on at length in this area in my post on last thread (thanks to David for his tolerance of my wordiness), so will only now add:

Stopping all reprocessing of nuclear waste was one of the worst decisions former President Carter ever made. The damage that did to our energy future will be with us for a long time.

Posted by Shawna

3:42 PM, May 13, 2008

If one does not wish to agree that there is global warming then that is your prerogative. I challenge you however to look at the benefits of innovation. Look at creating other ways of getting around, other ways of living, removal of a nation from being dependent on mid east oil. These are issues that could potentially strengthen and benefit the US. Now why wouldn't one want to encourage that. (unless of course you don't like the US.)

Posted by Jim Guthrie

4:01 PM, May 13, 2008

Good points, Shawna ... even though we get the majority of our oil from Canada and Mexico.

But always be wary of government 'encouragements'. Very wary.

Posted by Publisher

4:28 PM, May 13, 2008

It's a little disconcerting, though not surprising, that Senator McCain said, "We've never had a nuclear accident."

Apparently he knows as little about this as he does about economics. Google "three-mile island" to learn about a serious accident at a nuclear facility.

Posted by AD

4:40 PM, May 13, 2008

I trust most readers are able to read the accident quote in the context in which it was said. He was talking about the military, nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, submarines and the like. McCain pointed out that these ships have been sailing for 60 years with no accident.

Everyone knows about Three Mile Island. But anyone who believes that nuclear technology has not improved in the 29 years since that incident is ignorant.

Three Mile Island trivia question: How many people were injured or killed in this accident, the worst in the history of America's nuclear power industry?

Answer: ZERO. Oh, but nuclear's totally super dangerous, right? :D

Posted by Eric

5:22 PM, May 13, 2008

I'm all for nuclear power, as it reduces our dependence on foriegn oil. But this global warming crap is unbelievable. It's just another ploy to get money for nothing. If they can convince people that something is wrong with the environment, they can raise money to spend anyway they want. Those who believe in global warming will just keep on believing it and sending the frauds their money. But regardless, I'm going skiing on Sunday, May 18th!! up at Alpental! Go figure.

Posted by Eric

5:25 PM, May 13, 2008

McCain was referring to the nuclear subs, not 3-mile island.

"Again, we’ve sailed ships around the world for 60 years, some of them have come into this state, and we’ve never had a problem. We’ve never had a nuclear accident."

Plus the problems at 3-mile island were contained.

Posted by shawna

6:45 PM, May 13, 2008

Well Eric, bring your swimsuit. I hear it's going to be quite toasty.

Posted by redflag

8:06 PM, May 13, 2008

McCain is using his history on global warming to demonstrate that he's not George W. Bush and McCain means change, not more of the same.

Fair point. On global warming and American projection or morality around the world.

Before the Iraq war, George W. Bush already had alienated much of the world from America because of his strident communication of cowboy-like opposition to the Kyoto accord, giving America and cowboys a bad name.

Now we have all three major candidates for President, including McCain, saying America will lead with moral authority on climate change.

What's not to like about that?

I suppose the denial wing of the GOP won't like it. But so what? They lost in the GOP primary.

Posted by JimD

9:43 PM, May 13, 2008

Good for McCain, seriously.
But his voting record isn't all that green and he enjoys a special campaign finance provision, which he crafted himself, that allows Senators to accept virtually free rides on a SPOUSE'S private aircraft - the corporate jet belonging to Cindy, the only Senator's spouse who actually owns one.
I think - like the silly "let them eat cake" gasoline tax holiday - it's another clumsy attempt at political patronizing, which he simply isn't very good at.

Posted by there too

10:05 AM, May 14, 2008

Where we at the same event?

From reading this - I don't think so.

The nice thing about this one is that TVW was there with a crew, so anyone who wants to compare your account with what actually happened can do so - unfiltered.

What a GREAT chance for your those of your readers who have questions about your work to really evaluate it.

Here is the info from TVW.org - it airs TONIGHT, and will also stream off their website.

Wednesday at 8:30pm -
Sen. McCain Campaign Visit

U.S Senator & 2008 Presidential Candidate John McCain (R-AZ) participates in an environmental roundtable in North Bend.

Posted by Steve Nesich

10:40 AM, May 14, 2008

It's interesting that John McCain now thinks we can learn from France. During his recent visit, McCain cited France in his argument for more nuclear power plants but completely ignored France regarding health care. (France was rated best in the world for health care by the World Health Organization.)

Could it be that McCain is actually being consistent? It seems that what matters most to McCain is making sure his big corporate buddies profit heavily---whether they are private insurance companies or corporations building nuclear power plants. And using France in your argument is fine, as long as it advances the interests paying for your campaign.

Posted by Steve Nesich

10:44 AM, May 14, 2008

McCain also showed shameful ignorance and distortion of the facts when he claimed that there were "too many incentives given to the solar industry" in the 70's. What?

He's either unaware of the facts or he's engaged in conscious manipulation of the facts. Either way, it shows he's out of touch and captive to the big energy interests.

"Straight Talk"? Yeah, right...

Posted by P

3:27 PM, May 14, 2008

i find it interesting that not a single person could refute the facts I posted here; namely there has not been a single degree of climate change since 1998.

Global Warming is a scare tactic, pure and simple. Shawna, can you name the country with the single greatest reserves of oil, coal and wind power?

The answer you're googling for is the United States.

We don't need the federal government, and certaintly not the United Nations, creating unnecessary, and extremely costly, climate control efforts. IT'S A SCAM, SHAWNA! Afraud on the people to steal their money and their cars. Wake up!

Posted by Bothsides

11:47 AM, May 15, 2008

The very fact that redflag said "I suppose the denial wing of the GOP won't like it. But so what? They lost in the GOP primary" raises a RED FLAG. Science is not a political philosophy, it is based on fact, so until there are actual hard facts that people are the cause of the earths temp swings, forget about passing legislation that restricts freedoms and free enterprise. In the mean time, sure do whatever you want to reduce our need for oil etc., all good ideas, just don't jam it down my throat as law.

Shawna makes several good points that one could make different choices, and there is nothing wrong with that. My problem is when someone MANDATES what Shawna is suggesting, which is what the enviro whacko's are doing right now.

JimD, who are you kidding with the corporate jet remark, John Kerry's wife is a friggin' BILLIONAIRE.

Posted by John

11:02 PM, May 15, 2008

www.youtube.com/watch?v=64hHIF15tbA

Posted by John

Posted by John

11:25 AM, May 17, 2008

The far left demands more oil from the far east!

What they really want is for us to go back to the stone age.

The rats had 40 years to fix this mess they got us into and still they look the other way.

JimD your so one sided you must walk sideways.

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