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January 24, 2008 11:23 AM

Across the mountains, a question of the value of a vote

Posted by David Postman

ELLENSBURG - I’m here to do person-on-the-street interviews to see what people are saying about the presidential campaign. But it’s too cold to find anyone on the street willing to stop and talk much. People move deliberately when the temperature hovers a few degrees either side of zero.

(It’s not just this soft westsider who thinks its cold. It’s too cold for recess. The elementary school is keeping kids in the classroom for the second day in a row.)

People move a little less deliberately in the Frontier Tavern, a half block off Main Street. The doors were open early and there were two customers at the bar but they didn’t want to talk. And neither did the bartender, who said he didn’t want to talk politics and get his blood pressure up so early in the morning.

Thank God for barbershops and diners.

Sharon Lambert has owned the Sport of Kings Barbershop for 27 years. She says it’s mostly her older customers who talk politics these days. And Lambert is confident most of them are pretty conservative.

But just like the assessment from national pundits and pollsters, Lambert’s more hands-on interaction with voters find little consensus among Republicans about a favorite for president.

“Pretty much everybody is up in a quandary as to what’s happening. Romney is the one I hear the most about, I guess. But I’m not getting a real pulse. … As soon as you think you have a favorite, they go and do something stupid.”

Lambert and Bandit.

This is fairly conservative territory. George Bush won Kittitas County twice. But it hasn’t always been so red. Bill Clinton won the county by a bit in 1996 and by a bunch in 1992. This piece of the state from the Cascades to the Columbia is something of a mixing zone between the deep blues and reds of Western and Eastern Washington.

With the experience now of hours in Ellensburg I’d say people here are a bit less enthralled with the presidential campaign then those in the big cities. Lambert says there’s a good reason for that.

“Those of us over here figure no matter what we do, it won’t make any difference. It seems like it’s up to Seattle.”

Lambert also figures that with the Electoral College choosing the president no one in Washington state really gets much of a say.

“I hate the electoral votes. It just makes you feel it doesn’t matter.”

Lambert voted for Bill Clinton and says she’s an independent who “votes the person, not the party. I’m not hard core anything.” But her Clinton ties don’t seem to carry over to Hillary Clinton. And she thinks the excitement surrounding Clinton and Barack Obama may not be lasting.

“I’m not sure our country has progressed enough to elect a woman or a black.”

Down the icy street at the Dakota Cafe, Kelley Cook is plenty excited about Hillary Clinton. With her quick and easy laugh she tells me that when people notice her recent haircut she asks, “Oh, do I look like Hillary now?”

Cook and her husband, Mitch, own the cafe. I’m there now working on my bottomless cup of coffee and borrowing a bit of their bandwidth. Cook is something of a fish out of water. She describes Ellensburg as “right-wing” and heavily influenced by Christian conservatives. She's a Democrat who will be relieved when George Bush leaves office.

Cook was raised in White Center. She went to college at Central Washington University just down the street. Her parents retired here and 10 years ago she and Mitch followed to open their business.

She’s unabashedly supporting Clinton. Actually, I guess it’s somewhat abashedly because Cook as a business owner in a small town she doesn’t want to offend anyone and won’t put up any campaign signs, either here or at home.

“For me, this is historical. We could have a woman president. Why, in what is supposed to be the most progressive country in the world, hasn’t that happened?”

As for Clinton herself, Cook says:

“She’s just so intelligent. I think she has demonstrated, with Bill’s shoddy past, that she has staying power. She persevered, and a lot of women have faced that, but unfortunately I think she gets dismissed because she is a woman.”

I asked her if people are excited about the campaign. But she says that given that most here are Republican who assume a Democrat will win in November:

“I think it’s more dread then excitement.”

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Posted by Jim Guthrie

12:11 PM, Jan 24, 2008

“I hate the electoral votes. It just makes you feel it doesn’t matter.”

While I can understand why somebody would feel that way, if the Electoral College is eliminated the 'problem' would become worse, not better.

Candidates would simply spend all of their time in the heavy population areas (major cities) and dismiss/ignore the rest. Not saying that it doesn't happen to an extent now, but it would get much, much worse if the College is eliminated.

Just because one election didn't turn out the way some wanted it to is no reason to throw out a process that's worked fine for 200+ years.

Posted by swislander

1:39 PM, Jan 24, 2008

Jim Guthrie is exactly correct. The Electoral College is the system that helps make your vote count.

I propose an Electoral College for Governor and U.S. Senator. With a state as diverse as Washington, it's terribly unfortunate that King County has an overwhelming impact on these elections.

Posted by Mark

1:50 PM, Jan 24, 2008

I've heard some talk of modifying the electoral vote, so they're divided out by legislative district w/ the overall winner taking the 2 extra votes for the senators. I think that would be a pretty fair compromise, so long as all the states changed over at once. That way a traditionally "blue" state like Washington might devote 8 of its 12 votes for a democratic candidate and 4 for republican, and conversely a heavily "red" state like Texas, with very democratic areas (Austin) would give a portion of the votes to the other party.

Posted by JimD

5:04 PM, Jan 24, 2008

My limited contacts with eastern Washington folk finds the political apathy fairly universal. Especially in this age of Internet newspapers and cable TV, they see a western Washington establishment that has no concept of who they are, let alone what they want and need from government. Ironic, since they generally have a much more sophisticated grasp of their local issues, than most of us westerners have with ours. They aren't interested into politics as much for sport, than as a means to solving real problems they understand with more depth than most of the big city reporting they see represents - Postman not with standing, right now at least.

Posted by G Davis

6:31 PM, Jan 27, 2008

I'm an older woman supposedly in the Clinton's base and I think it's shameful for women to vote for a woman just because she's a woman.

It's the antithesis of the women's movement.

To be equal, we have to be able to get there on our own merit, not our gender or our last name.

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