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October 05, 2004

The veep faceoff

Tonight it's Dick Cheney vs. John Edwards. The pit bull vs. the lapdog.

By some estimates, it may be the most-watched vice presidential debate in 20 years (see Note below).

Forty-one percent of voters, about 42 million people, plan to tune into the broadcast of tonight's debate from Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, according to the Washington-based Pew Research Center. In 2000, 29 million people watched Cheney debate Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman, according to Nielsen Media Research.

But will it mean anything? These guys are, after all, running for the job that FDR's first veep, John Nance Garner, memorably described as "not worth a bucket of warm spit." (For what he actually said, click here.)

The answer to the question, provisionally at least, is yes.

Garner was a bit player and a disgruntled one at that -- to a president who was always in charge and never in doubt. On the other hand, Dick Cheney is widely viewed as perhaps the most powerful vice president in history. Whether that's accurate we'll leave to the history books. He is, however, indisputably connected directly to two of the administration's most critical decisions:

-- To invade Iraq.

-- To cast the administration's tax cuts in a way that the benefits flow disproportionally to the richest 1 percent of Americans.

As the Washington Post's Dan Froomkin notes in a good pre-debate roundup,

unlike at the vice presidential debate four years ago Cheney is now in the awkward position of defending an assailable record. Cheney has been the point man for many of the most disputed assertions made by the Bush administration.

Plus, the campaign clearly wants him to repair the damage inflicted by President Bush himself at last week's debate.

So Cheney will be on the spot. Edwards will push aggressively to put him on the defensive about Iraq and taxes to undermine any attempt to ameliorate President Bush's self-inflicted injuries from Debate 1. And Edwards is at the very least a far more skilled and compelling speaker.

However, in one critical area experience in government Cheney holds all the cards. The veep has devoted his career to government service (chief of staff for President Gerald Ford, congressman from Wyoming and defense secretary for Bush 1). There is hardly an area of government that Cheney cannot address with the authority of personal experience.

Edwards, a one-term U.S. senator, is a pup by comparison. He did not, however, become a millionaire trial lawyer, by being dumb or shallow. And the personality contrast between Edwards and Cheney could scarcely be greater.

Tune in (6 p.m. Pacific time on C-SPAN and C-SPAN2, ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News Channel). This is bound to be interesting and, "Cactus Jack" Garner notwithstanding, may even be meaningful.

Note: The most-watched vice presidential debate in history was the 1984 contest between then-Vice President George H.W. Bush and U.S. Representative Geraldine Ferraro of New York, who ran with Democratic presidential candidate Walter Mondale. That debate drew 56.7 million viewers.

Posted by tbrown at 12:57 PM

Damage control

President George W. Bush has charged that Senator John Kerry's policies "are dangerous for world peace" as his campaign suddenly changed plans for holding an event on medical liability on Wednesday and scheduled a speech by the president on terrorism and the economy instead.
-- Elisabeth Bumiller, The New York Times

Posted by tbrown at 12:54 PM

Off message

One: Our former proconsul in Baghdad, Paul Bremer, says we blew it by not having enough troops on the ground for the postwar cleanup.

Phil Carter, a former Army intelligence officer who writes the excellent blog Inteldump, has an analysis.

David Adesnik at Oxblog correctly points out that Bremer's comments are self-serving, however accurate they may be.

Two: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says that "I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links" Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, then tries to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Posted by tbrown at 12:52 PM

Drug test

Illinois and Wisconsin are forging ahead with plans to help residents buy cheaper prescription drugs from Canada and Europe.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, in contrast, vetoed a bill that would have allowed Californians to buy such drugs because it would violate federal law.

Why'd Californians elect such a "girlie man?"

Posted by tbrown at 12:50 PM

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Blogs to watch

Abu Ardvark
Andrew Sullivan
Atrios Eschaton
Best of the Web
Drudge Report
Joe Conason (subscription required)
Josh Marshall
Kaus files
No More Mr. Nice Blog
Real Clear Politics
The Corner
The Volokh Conspiracy
The Whiskey Bar

Mideast blogs

Salam Pax (Iraq)
G. in Baghdad
L.T. Smash (U.S. military in Iraq)
Lady Sun (Iran)

City blogs

L.A. Examiner

Africa blogs

Cathy Buckle

Media blogs

Dan Gillmor's eJournal
Media Whores Online


Newspapers online (guide to papers on the web)
International Herald Tribune
The Guardian U.K.
New York Times (free registration required)

Economy blogs

Brad DeLong

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